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post May 19 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 19 2023, 09:14 AM)
the planning is also minimal la. especially in the city and mostly within your routinely travelled routes it's not so much of an issue, i'm sure you as an owner would know. the planning is mostly long distance travel.

it's usually those that don't own an EV and have no idea where and what chargers are around that have the range anxiety
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Precisely, those that have it will realize it is probably not that big a fuss. But the fear is real, like all fears, sometimes beyond reasons and logics, we are human

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post May 19 2023, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 19 2023, 09:19 AM)
Got one g30 530e owner asking his battery degrading too much heading 5th year. From purely battery driven up to 50km when brand new to 15km on 5th year. How Tesla able to make theirs longer life ?
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G30 530e PHEV battery is tiny i.e. 9.2 kWh lithium-ion battery pack. Being small, it is a bit more delicate to take care of. Size does matter, read this up and soak it in

https://hal.science/hal-02143273/document

Tesla? how did they do it?

https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-battery-health/

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Let’s compare a vehicle with a liquid cooling system to one with a passive air cooling system: the 2015 Tesla Model S and the 2015 Nissan Leaf, respectively. The Leaf has an average degradation rate of 4.2%, while the Model S is 2.3%. Good thermal management means better protection against degradation.



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post May 19 2023, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(marcus_bread @ May 19 2023, 08:59 AM)
there study conducted in Malaysia and it show that Hybrid is the most suitable at the moment in Malaysia.
that shd tell all
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that moment will pass quite quickly though or hasten its pace...

https://electrek.co/2022/09/08/the-time-for...a-honda-nissan/
https://thedriven.io/2023/01/30/toyota-face...ctric-vehicles/
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post May 19 2023, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 19 2023, 09:19 AM)
Got one g30 530e owner asking his battery degrading too much heading 5th year. From purely battery driven up to 50km when brand new to 15km on 5th year. How Tesla able to make theirs longer life ?
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My mild hybrid is 12 years old, 225,000km. I feel the battery is still good. I can't tell you in numbers what's the life left on it but it's feels normal. To answer your question, I really dunno.
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post May 19 2023, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ May 19 2023, 10:19 AM)
My mild hybrid is 12 years old, 225,000km. I feel the battery is still good. I can't tell you in numbers what's the life left on it but it's feels normal. To answer your question, I really dunno.
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should have try the full battery mode and check what the real usage range now
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post May 19 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 19 2023, 10:31 AM)
should have try the full battery mode and check what the real usage range now
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my car cant run full battery mode lol blush.gif
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post May 19 2023, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ May 19 2023, 11:07 AM)
my car cant run full battery mode lol  blush.gif
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Hopefully it turn out ok.

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post May 19 2023, 04:34 PM

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Another ball has been pushed to roll

https://www.carlist.my/news/targeted-fuel-s...24-94888/94888/
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post May 19 2023, 06:15 PM

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https://www.wapcar.my/news/not-sure-if-ev-i...its-fleet-67963

Try them, why not?
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post May 19 2023, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 19 2023, 09:19 AM)
Got one g30 530e owner asking his battery degrading too much heading 5th year. From purely battery driven up to 50km when brand new to 15km on 5th year. How Tesla able to make theirs longer life ?
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most 530e owners i know hardly or don't charge the battery. which kills it faster
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post May 20 2023, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 19 2023, 06:15 PM)
this is a good idea, then assume one have their own charger at home ....
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QUOTE(812799 @ May 20 2023, 09:28 AM)
this is a good idea, then assume one have their own charger at home ....
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Level 1 charging can be done via a standard household electrical outlet in your home and would take around 8 to 20 hours to reach a full charge depending on your vehicle's battery size.

So if you are staying at a landed home, why not? just ask how long it will charge level one, and make sure they provide a level 1 charger
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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 19 2023, 10:33 PM)
most 530e owners i know hardly or don't charge the battery. which kills it faster
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And that is so so true. and it is already happened since PHEVs were the thing and honestly it is so so not making sense

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/study-says-peo...res-why-should/
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/09/18/shocki...t-plug-them-in/
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/10/the-ph...eds-to-end-now/

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The UK stopped tax incentives on PHEVs citing: “The evidence was very clear: owners of plug-in hybrids were not plugging them in, negating the environmental benefits and undermining the incentives.”

“Several factors play a role in drivers’ decision to plug-in their PHEV or not, including vehicle characteristics and the availability and cost of charging at various locations,” a study of California PHEV owners states. “Higher home electricity prices, lower electric driving range, lower electric motor power to vehicle weight ratios, lower potential cost savings from charging, and living in an apartment or condo, among other factors are related to not plugging in a PHEV.”


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post May 23 2023, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 19 2023, 10:33 PM)
most 530e owners i know hardly or don't charge the battery. which kills it faster
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Got highly interested with used XC90 which also PHEV run on batteries.
But seriously with these depreciated value on PHEV cars, you know things are not simple as ABC.
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post May 23 2023, 02:40 PM

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For the uninitiated PHEV ≠ EV
Those assuming they are the same shows that they have to do more reading.
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post May 23 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ May 23 2023, 02:40 PM)
For the uninitiated PHEV ≠ EV
Those assuming they are the same shows that they have to do more reading.
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half of the pages are derail to PHEV since the 530e
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post May 23 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 23 2023, 02:35 PM)
Got highly interested with used XC90 which also PHEV run on batteries.
But seriously with these depreciated value on PHEV cars, you know things are not simple as ABC.
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XC90 a buddy of mine using
1st issue - airmatic - replaced with Titan aftermarket

when he was fixing the aftermarket susp. another xc90 was there to perform a e.motor swap @ RM25k not sure brand new or halfcut

hence for XC90, worth buying if you have the dough for the maintenance
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post May 23 2023, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ May 23 2023, 04:28 PM)
XC90 a buddy of mine using
1st issue - airmatic - replaced with Titan aftermarket

when he was fixing the aftermarket susp. another xc90 was there to perform a e.motor swap @ RM25k not sure brand new or halfcut

hence for XC90, worth buying if you have the dough for the maintenance
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my bro w211 E270 using airmatic, recond unit to replaced it at rm11k-12k.
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post May 24 2023, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ May 23 2023, 02:35 PM)
Got highly interested with used XC90 which also PHEV run on batteries.
But seriously with these depreciated value on PHEV cars, you know things are not simple as ABC.
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volvo xc90 batteries are not that expensive i think got like 6 or 8 batteries inside the pack. u can replace the ones that are failing. if not mistaken about 6k for one battery. lasts quite long too from what i've seen.

airmatic if fail can repair. which doesn't last that long maybe a year or 2 at best or replace and peace of mind for the new 3-5 years
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post May 24 2023, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 24 2023, 08:16 PM)
volvo xc90 batteries are not that expensive i think got like 6 or 8 batteries inside the pack. u can replace the ones that are failing. if not mistaken about 6k for one battery. lasts quite long too from what i've seen.

airmatic if fail can repair. which doesn't last that long maybe a year or 2 at best or replace and peace of mind for the new 3-5 years
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That's what SC told me as well regarding the battery, should be okay because battery can't broken 2 or 3 at once.

But XC90 common issue not only EDAS, Air Sus, AC Compressor etc
1 year fail each 1 can la, but 2 or 3 items i boleh mampus

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My heart wants XC90 but my brain opt for CX8

sorry again hijacking this EV terek

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