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TSKittyKat
post Mar 4 2022, 09:09 AM, updated 4y ago

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Good morning Sifu's.

Was just wondering, how ready is Malaysia in terms of EV? Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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post Mar 4 2022, 09:12 AM

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Fuel still cheap here. Battery replacement & other part still expensive and hard to get.
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post Mar 4 2022, 09:32 AM

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lack of charging station and low 2nd hand value due to battery depletion.
but if you are buying as toy car, then no prob
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post Mar 4 2022, 09:41 AM

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Very valid comments. I believe skill to maintain/repair might also be concern?

Yeah tempted to buy one as a secondary vehicle, the Hyundai Ioniq5 ticks all the boxes for me.
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post Mar 4 2022, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Mar 4 2022, 09:09 AM)
Good morning Sifu's.

Was just wondering, how ready is Malaysia in terms of EV? Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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Lack motivation, petrol is cheap.
Lack infrastructure, really limited charging facility
Lack incentive, MY consume way too price sensitive, pay more to save the earth? what a joke
Lack awareness, MY consumer see EV, PHEV, Hybrid like see ghost, scare this scare that, most of all, scare of RV

Also need to consider the habit of Malaysian driver, interstate driving is common. It sucks to have mileage anxiety, which is a existing problem in China now given their EV adoption is really high. Not uncommon for them to encounter jam on highway and end up have to turn off aircon just to preserve battery for more mileage to the next charging station. And the best thing is, there's a jam / queue to charge their car. Let's imagine, driving from JB to Penang, have to charge mid way, and if you are unlucky, there's 2 char infront of you, each have to charge at least 30-60 mins.

But it's suitable if you only travel within city, and have charging point at home.

Also Malaysian dont have old car scrapping regulation, so it's common to keep your car for 15-20 years if it can run, but EV is never meant to be a 10-20 years car.



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post Mar 4 2022, 10:13 AM

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Thanks for the input Hungrygodzilla, appreciate it.
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post Mar 4 2022, 10:25 AM

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not ready at all from all aspects


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post Mar 4 2022, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Mar 4 2022, 09:41 AM)
Very valid comments. I believe skill to maintain/repair might also be concern?

Yeah tempted to buy one as a secondary vehicle, the Hyundai Ioniq5 ticks all the boxes for me.
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Whats your own concern, mind sharing?

In this rapid changing world, nothing is "ready". If you are interested and have the mean, just do it.

Total silence.
Futuristic design in and out.
Reputable brand.
Beats conventional cars hands down, in term of persive owner's image....New Civic? What new Civic? biggrin.gif
Lone Wolf X
post Mar 4 2022, 03:19 PM

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Test drive and update us what you think


QUOTE(KittyKat @ Mar 4 2022, 09:09 AM)
Good morning Sifu's.

Was just wondering, how ready is Malaysia in terms of EV? Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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post Mar 4 2022, 04:51 PM

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let's say there is no problem with the cost of owning an EV now

there is most likely no charging station within 20km of your location, government or petrol station owner wont be willing to invest charging station unless there is numbers, but consumer wont buy EV unless there is charging station, hence the chicken and egg question arise

let's say in KL/Selangor, where many of us staying in high rise doesn't have place to even wash our car, and installing a charging station cost the management money unless you are staying in high rise that already has charging station fitted by developer, if you are staying in landed property this is not a problem since you can charge using the 240v wall socket but it will take longer time

charging time for EV is long, unless there is a universal battery swap at charging station or fast charging station, else you will have to partial charge it and plan your mileage for the day


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post Mar 4 2022, 07:57 PM

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Good things that the Ionic 5 is a 800v architecture so charging takes only minutes.
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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Mar 4 2022, 03:19 PM)
Test drive and update us what you think

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switching between petrol and battery drive, latter around 10% weaker and lesser responsive, but very quiet. it will be especially good using battery mode and sleep inside the car.
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post Mar 15 2022, 07:49 AM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...ts-implications

Perhaps removal of fuel subsidy even played gradually will be the pivot point that will push things in the direction
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post Mar 15 2022, 07:54 AM

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https://www.carlist.my/news/apparently-govt...-anymore/88856/


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post Mar 15 2022, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Mar 4 2022, 07:57 PM)
Good things that the Ionic 5 is a 800v architecture so charging takes only minutes.
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Bingo! That's the same 800v design reference from the Nevera hypercar.

Hyundai and Porsche have stakes in Rimac!

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post Mar 15 2022, 08:36 AM

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Meanwhile in China, they developed an automatic battery swapping
Accroding to the news: 3.3 Million EVs are sold in China in 2021




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post Mar 15 2022, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 15 2022, 07:49 AM)
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...ts-implications

Perhaps removal of fuel subsidy even played gradually will be the pivot point that will push things in the direction
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You will probably see your average grocery and food spending sky rocket then. At least 30% increase and price is sticky upwards. Even later when fuel prices go down, consumer prices won't.

We will have a runaway inflation and high poverty rakyat
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post Mar 15 2022, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Mar 15 2022, 08:42 AM)
You will probably see your average grocery and food spending sky rocket then. At least 30% increase and price is sticky upwards. Even later when fuel prices go down, consumer prices won't.

We will have a runaway inflation and high poverty rakyat
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If you draw the parallel, expect this too

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/elect...e-shops-1842886

Only the quantum and the increase over time may differ.

FYI, we as business owner, have faced one of the most drastic increased electricity price in Malaysia w.e.f
1st Feb 2022


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post Mar 15 2022, 09:37 AM

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Sticks is out but would carrots come after.?

IF only ...

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/bt-mot...of-new-coe-rule

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Mar 15 2022, 09:39 AM
leon898
post Mar 16 2022, 11:05 AM

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for now, better off with hybrid. best of both worlds. good fc for town driving and worry free during long distance driving

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