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Perhaps removal of fuel subsidy even played gradually will be the pivot point that will push things in the direction
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...ts-implications
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Mar 15 2022, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Mar 15 2022, 08:42 AM) You will probably see your average grocery and food spending sky rocket then. At least 30% increase and price is sticky upwards. Even later when fuel prices go down, consumer prices won't. If you draw the parallel, expect this tooWe will have a runaway inflation and high poverty rakyat https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/elect...e-shops-1842886 Only the quantum and the increase over time may differ. FYI, we as business owner, have faced one of the most drastic increased electricity price in Malaysia w.e.f 1st Feb 2022 |
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Sticks is out but would carrots come after.?
IF only ... https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/bt-mot...of-new-coe-rule This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Mar 15 2022, 09:39 AM |
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May 25 2022, 07:58 AM
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May 3 2023, 11:12 PM
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May 4 2023, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 4 2023, 07:28 AM) I saw one electric car last weekend in PJ when driving on the roads. I think it's BYD if I'm not mistaken. Looks pretty cool. If it is BYD Atto3, it would be quite easy to spot becauss it is quite popular now...https://soyacincau.com/2023/04/10/byd-atto-...stone-ev-sales/ 1000 delivered in 100 days |
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 4 2023, 01:26 PM) Yes, likely that's the one. It looks modern and nice. 1000 delivered in 100 days would be 30 units sold in 1 month. Pretty good I would say. That is right because none can really sticks to being an ostrich and hide your head beneath the ground and say future is not coming all the time.The vehicle is not exactly cheap, RM150k for standard model and RM168k for top spec model. Looks like more people are beginning to embrace the future. I USED TO THINK 150K OR EVEN 168K IS QUITE A LOT OF MONEY to ask for car but then i look at a plate of chicken rice and a pack of nasi lemak or a plate of mee goreng these days and realize what inflation is. Also, more on BYD.... https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/663720 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(babisotong @ May 5 2023, 08:46 AM) ' 2 air bags only you know... if faster , cannot imagine how safe it wil be for the driver and front passenger already.this car shouldn't be allowed to enter highway with 110kmh speed limit.. 101kmh max? What a joke SOME currently sold in Malaysia ICE cars are still equipped with only 2 air bags but don't curb speed, and they are quite popular still. So this is an alternative for that car segment's buyers. This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 5 2023, 11:27 PM |
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Ready or not , more to come
https://www.carlist.my/news/confirmed-toyot...23-92996/92996/ https://vulcanpost.com/785425/smart-1-compa...icles-malaysia/ https://www.dsf.my/2022/09/volkswagen-id-4-...ia-from-rm228k/ Most unsure about ID 4 though This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 7 2023, 10:40 AM |
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QUOTE(vez @ May 8 2023, 08:05 AM) For the current government , you only need to worry if....you are T20https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/657124 |
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QUOTE(babisotong @ May 8 2023, 08:00 AM) yesterday(sunday - 07/05/2023) i go to Maeps Motorshow. Good input. Thanks for sharingThe best EV rear seat will go to ORA Good Cat from GWM and the best ergonomic goes to KIA EV6.. ORA rear seat damn comfortable however i'm not sure how you will feel on long journey since it's quite soft. |
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/665911
1.98% Interest rate for EV purchase! This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 8 2023, 06:43 PM |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 9 2023, 05:58 AM) Yes that's the main reason. Fuel is damn expensive at Thailand until they need to buy EV to counter the fuel price. Here, it just too cheap plus subsidy The ball on subsidy targeted removal or reduction is already rolling...https://www.carlist.my/news/targeted-fuel-s...ed-94079/94079/ I am in Energy Business so I should know. But government of the day introduce carrot and stick so you will just need to find the carrots since it is year of rabbit. Before the stick hit you... HARD. A lot of big businesses already got hit by the big stick some January this year. Below is just some of the affected industries https://themalaysianreserve.com/2022/12/20/...riff-surcharge/ https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/649490 https://www.thesundaily.my/business/misif-a...sion-EL10397074 https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022...-business-group Also the increase in income tax rate for T20 group [by 0.5 to two percentage points for the income tax bracket of RM100,000 to RM1 million for about 150,000 Malaysian folks] is a taletell sign for more to come. https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/656686 |
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QUOTE(autodriver @ May 8 2023, 09:55 AM) It is undeniable the EV is future trend of automotive industry. The current concern mostly because of charging infra and range problem but these can be solved in near future. East Malaysia only particularly challenging. But then again if Indonesia can do it, we must not say nay Those who concern of charging infra, mind to ask where are the places the TNB not reachable? If you talk about jungle then don't buy it if you live long in jungle. As long as got 3 pin plug we can use it to charge the EV car, just matter of how long it takes. 1hr can give 3kwh, yes it will take about 24 hours to get about 70kwh but at least it still can charge. If we install 7.6kwh charger at home it will shorten by half. Concern about range then we have to think about the EV battery technology. In the past there is only lithium available but battery tech move rapidly. There are many innovation on battery with many variants such as lithium, LFP, LMFP, sodium, semi-solid state and in the future solid-state battery. For ICE people talk about engine tech but in EV people concern about the battery tech. |
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QUOTE(autodriver @ May 8 2023, 10:04 AM) Miti is expecting 4000 charging points this year. Imaging 5 years time it will be at least over 20k charging points or maybe even surpass 30k points. This is for public and not include private charging point for household. I predict most if not all petrol stations will ready with charging port in future. Here is an additional thought for you....https://wattlogic.com/blog/ev-charging-station-franchise/ Instead of petrol station franchise.... Presenting EV charging franchise |
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QUOTE(autodriver @ May 8 2023, 10:36 AM) Many people keep complaining 400km range is too low should have at least 500km or even 700km range. I guess this might achievable in future. But for now 400km WLTP is reasonable. How many people really travel 150km per day, probably less than 10%. Yet many perceived hurdles will remain hurdles perceived.Some concern KL bad traffic and cause more energy loss if driving EV. The concept of EV is almost upside down compare to ICE. EV give more range in city traffic and less range in highway cruise. In bad traffic the energy loss more in ICE and EV is less. ICE in bad traffic the engine is keep running to pull the fans belt to provide electricity to power electronic and also aircond. 2.0L idle for 1 hour is about 0.16 gallon (0.6L) without aircond. Assuming with aircond is 0.20 gallon per hour or 0.75L, it will be RM1.54 per hour stuck in traffic. https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-8...diesel-vehicles While in EV the most consuming energy is aircond during idle or bad traffic. Imagine household non-inverted 1hp aircond is almost 1kwh, but car cabin is much smaller. Even if include all electronic stuffs and makes it at 1kwh during idle or bad traffic, it is only RM 0.571 per hour. So driving in City and bad traffic the EV is much saver than petrol even though Malaysia petrol is cheap. To draw a parallel, many home dwellers has installed solar panel on their roof tops, and ended up paying much lesser bill (in some cases even zero bill) but many others on the other hand are still seceptical , saying it is upfront cost intensive, solar system will be less efficient in harvesting overtime, wait for technology to be more efficient first lah blah blah blah. Not knowing or being sceptical about the incentives and such financing scheme offered even by TNB subsidiary company and not taking advantage of it. Wait and wait and wait. Meanwhile complain about this and that, e.g. why only the rich get richer, complain about why electricity bill has gone up (after smart meters replacement rolled out) , complain about all these EVs are fancy flashy things only meant for the privileged yada yada yada. This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 9 2023, 03:47 PM |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 9 2023, 11:45 AM) most links are from 2022 and it did not happen due to Gomen continue to give electric subsidies. https://www.thesundaily.my/local/electricit...2023-KE10729993 The links yes are 2022 but it already commences 2023 as for as electricity is concernedthen to cut off fuel subsidy, doubt they even got the ball to do it, considering the PRN this year and not so fundamentally strong PMX gomen (a mix up combination). They had numerous Sunday meeting to discuss the petrol subsidy but as usual PMX dont have ball to pull it out. I personally prefer Gomen don't spend more on subsidy for petrol, its kinda waste for gomen fund, in the North border, thousand of Thai registered cars put our 95. I did take pictures and report online + email to KPDNKK, as usual, but no action. If the Petrol price is less subsidy, sureĀ plenty more will convert to riding public transport for work Subsidy remains only for domestic and low voltage users + agricultural , but the rest have experienced massive hike. In case you have not noticed , your water bills have experienced hike too. Petrol and diesel Ron 95 is a bit more delicate matters since abang grab , food panda etc all depends on cheap fuel. The deferment is actually not a matter of balls but a matter of how, like you say, how to curb the leakages. If you give out a subsidy card, most subsidy recipients will probably sell it or rent it out. Remember subsidized diesels for Fisher man in Malaysia... How to control? By NRIC? By LHDN data (many income underreporting and no reporting), by petrol station control ? (Can't even control foreign owned cars effectively ) I too think it is counter productive. Perhaps the solution is to incentivise even more on low cost EV, motorbikes? Incentivise company who chooses to use commercial EV more (ask DHL, they have done it).... This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 9 2023, 03:21 PM |
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