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I think to expect RM30k therabout (today's Malaysian ringgit value) will be prudent.

But EV battery is meant to live on 15 to 20 years, and even have second lives

Why worry? be happy ,I bet in about 15 to 20 years, things will change better, and here is a toast to better tomorrows

https://blog.evbox.com/uk-en/ev-battery-longevity

Has anyone make a comparison before ICE vs EV car in terms of cost? I am trying to create one here based on some assumption la. Sorry la if not very accurate. Never own any EV car before. Just do research only. If you got a better comparison, can share here.

Assumptions:

- Mileage: 180,000 km (Battery will koyak after that)
- ICE car fuel consumption: 4.7 L/100 km
- Fuel price: RM2.05/L
- TNB residential electricity rate of RM0.571 sen/kWh
- Fuel and TNB rate is fixed for the next 8 years



This post has been edited by ngaisteve2: May 17 2023, 10:20 AM

Tesla battery only degrade 12% after running 320,000km. Why do you need to change battery at 180,000km?
And Neta V uses LFP batteries that can last even longer.
Btw Neta V road tax is only 50 a year so X 8 should be RM400
Neta V motor is only 70kW that’s why road tax is low

This post has been edited by N9484640: May 17 2023, 11:14 AM

It is just based on the worst scenario that the battery will koyak after warranty period (180,000km).
Ok I will update the table. Thanks.
By the way, do you think that amount for electricity is reasonable? Around RM10k for 180,000km?

this is soo wrong, ICE 4.7 L/100 km.. walauweh.. this is hybrid category already not pure ICE. No way Myvi can achieve this. 180k km replace battery? doubt it. With Malaysia weather and proper charge, i think it will probably last forever lol.

An alternative calculation 7.28 L/100km VS 17 kWh/100 km

https://soyacincau.com/2023/05/17/minister-...-number-plates/

Special number plates for EVs, a good perk!

It could be a good or bad thing.

Good cos you stand out from the crowd...the rest will be wow at your toy

Bad cos you may get unwanted ill intention from bad people, knowing you are rich...

imo, EV is the way to go in the future, agree to some comments here regarding PHEV which includes maintaining half ICE and half EV but .....

i still think that EV is more for city driving or mid range distance driving, take out the festive season peak period and it works perfectly, but few conditions need to be fulfilled

- landed house (3 phase)
- solar system
- home charger

RANGE ANXIETY

range anxiety exists due to lack of Charging Stations, which i agree, but somehow i believe it's more for domestic city driving instead the purpose of a full haul outstation driving, oh well 2 sides of a coin

4.7L/100km hybrid unless always city driving, do a lot of highway also can not reach.

This is PHEV category already.

Good EV battery should last 300k km with proper charge, but high risk with Neta after 5 years probably the company no longer exist. Want to change also no parts.

Stick with BYD, or European EV better future assurance. Specific to this topic about Neta, I'll run away from it like a plague.

https://www.dongchedi.com/article/7231842191562277411

2022 net loss 6.919B CNY
2022 sales volume 152073, average 45.5k loss per car sales
Total loss 11.14B CNY over 3 years


China new coming car makers are still on money spending spree to get market share, whoever run out of cash first will be eliminated.


As a new comer (with lack to technology depth/R&D), Neta is heavily relying on their suppliers, if sales volume is not keeping up, the BOM (build of material) price will be much higher than competitors. Worst case is Neta is facing a lot of quality issue.


Neta claims they use CATL battery, but owner found out it is JEVE (who is this? I never heard of this battery maker) after purchase.


Neta attempt to move up market didn't give promising return. The Neta S launched on July 2022 only sold for 2003 cars in first month. On last month April 2023, the sales only 2237. This is huge gap versus BYD Han and Tesla Model 3.


This post has been edited by constant_weight: May 18 2023, 09:48 AM

Lack of station and it take hours for fully charged. Wonder if e everyone with EV, need to line up somemore

I just laud the government in coming out with such Malaysian specific incentives, it cost them nothing, and already potentially make EV owners feel a little bit more special.

Some EVs are cheap, and can hardly be considered "toy" of the rich, so a special plate series may just be the thing that encourage them

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: May 18 2023, 09:17 PM

2025 is just 2 years away, expect said we are on the right track

https://www.astroawani.com/videos/video-ter...v-pakar-x8l17ai

As a datapoint, my BMW was averaging 8L/100km vs 13.3kWh/100km on my Model 3.
Similar driving patterns for both.

If using fast DC charging, I get 20% to 80% in about 20 minutes, which gives me additional 200+ KM range.
If you’re not driving long distances all the time, a quick 5-10 minute zap should be enough to last you until the end of the day and you can then slow charge at home.

Everyone’s use case will be different. EV requires some forward planning but I suppose it’ll only get better as infra improves.

there study conducted in Malaysia and it show that Hybrid is the most suitable at the moment in Malaysia.
that shd tell all

Afraid if many more converted to EV, need a more line up. As u said, one need 20 minutes in cases, I doubt in my case to able wait patiently. If at outside KL, saw it empty most of time, but within KL, rarely found the station is empty.

Hopefully there will be more station or the technology upgrade faster, ie more fast charging and longer distance range this coming years.

the planning is also minimal la. especially in the city and mostly within your routinely travelled routes it's not so much of an issue, i'm sure you as an owner would know. the planning is mostly long distance travel.

it's usually those that don't own an EV and have no idea where and what chargers are around that have the range anxiety

Got one g30 530e owner asking his battery degrading too much heading 5th year. From purely battery driven up to 50km when brand new to 15km on 5th year. How Tesla able to make theirs longer life ?