o.O wutz with the girl's picture?

mah sistorz. u wana hit?

No and no.

check out cy6ex listing at http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/523060. you can even read the loads of products review.. its all there for you to read and judge

hey~so many supplement which to choose? which is for beginner with a body of ectomorph?

this?
WHEY PROTEIN
OPTIMUM NUTRITION - 100% Gold Standard Whey (Rocky Road, Banana Cream, Tropical Punch) 5Ibs RM190
(Vanilla Ice, French Vanilla, Double Rich Chocolate, Extreme Chocolate, Cookies n cream, Chocolate Mint and Strawberry)
CHAMPION NUTRITION - Pure Whey Protein (Banana Scream) 5IbsRM185
(Cookies n Cream, Cocoa Mochaccino, Strawberry & Vanilla)
MUSCLE TECH - Nitro Tech (Chocolate, Vanilla & Strawberry) 4Ibs RM265
MUSCLE TECH - Whey Protein Hardcore(Chocolate & Vanilla) 5Ibs RM234

or this?
ERGOPHARM - GF Pro Whey Isolate (Orange Cream, Raspberry Lemonade, Cherry Blast) 2.81Ibs
SYNTRAX - Nectar Whey Isolate (Fuzzy Navel) 2.14Ibs RM168

Whey isolate is more pure and has a higher biological value. It contains more protein, less fat and lactose than whey concentrate.

For an ectomorph, i would suggest you get some weightgainers like serious mass 12Ibs (16servings), cytogainer 6Ibs (18servings), true mass 5.7Ibs (18servings). Serious mass if you're really underweight cos each servings contain around 1250 calories.

However, if you trying to gain more lean muscle mass. Go with mass meal 2.7Ibs (15servings).

You're a beginner bro. What you need is maximum results with lowest cost. Do you think I'm a beginner? =) And i've been using the same basic stuff all this while. No fancy stuff mate. I will always repeat, you just need whey, a good multivitamin, fish oil and maybe creatine (optional). Things like preworkout volumizers and other supplements, consider them only when you are much, much more advanced. Nutrient timing is way more important than supplementation itself. If you have just essential basic supplements, you combine it with the use of nutrient timing, plain hard work, consistency and dedication, you will obtain more optimal results than any trainee on a dozen supplements, period.

All that stuff like weightgainers you can replicate by adding milk, peanut butter, etc. PM me and i will teach you how to make your own mass gainer protein shakes with just whey and natural foods if you need guidance on that.

For whey, i would suggest Optimum Nutrition/EAS/Dymatize 100% Whey. Gold standard stuff for any bodybuilder.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 13 2008, 01:36 PM

Optimum Nutrition for the win =D
Double Rich Choc flavor ...

no ppl here selling dymatize product

ON Taste sucks... I still think CHAMPION NUTRITION taste better ... and its CHEAPER than ON ...

LOL

personal preference

thats a good thing.
dymatize failed its label claims

ON's label claims to have lactase which CN doesn't.

Double Rich Choc + Banana

Shiokness haha

u mean the nutrition fact label not same with the real one?

darklight im an ecto too and i just started about a month ago and im currently taking a weight gainer with whey+carbo and watching my diet, ie no mcdonalds and fatty food + no alcohol.. and going to the gym of course.. will be good if you could give some recipes on some natural mass gainer whatever u just said =D

This is the standard template I use for a protein shake:-

1-2 scoops whey
1 cup oats
16 ounces of milk

Now add variety. Your options can include:-
1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter
or
1 banana
or
1 cup raisins
or
Some cottage cheese
or
1 can of tuna

If I'm on the move and i have nothing else but whey, i usually keep a jar of natty peanut butter in my car, i'd mix 2 scoops whey with water and swallow down 1-2 tablespooms of peanut butter.

I'm kidding about the can of tuna in the protein shake btw.

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Added on February 14, 2008, 6:51 pmPost workout Drink, you don't have to do this everytime, and it's usually recommended for those who're bulking :-

2 bananas
1/2 cup of cottage cheese
vanilla whey protein
cup of milk
some Ice
1/2 a teaspoon of brown sugar.

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Added on February 14, 2008, 6:53 pm1/4 cup granola bars (you crunch them up first)
1 cup low fat plain yogurt
1 cup strawberries- sliced or whatever fruits (I'm a sucker for strawberries)
1 tbsp brown sugar
1 scoop protein powder- vanilla

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Added on February 14, 2008, 6:56 pmThis is a serious bulking shake (strictly for ectomorphs only imo)
16 oz whole milk
6 tbsp Peanut butter
2 scoops of whey protein powder


Calories: 1090
Protein: 83 g
Carbs: 49 g
Fat: 67 g

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Added on February 14, 2008, 7:03 pm1/2 cup yogurt
1/2 cup Cottage cheese
1 scoop of whey protein
1 tblsp peanut butter
10-12 ice cubes

Put into a blender and you have a high protien frozen yogurt that tastes great.

Cals= 335
Protein = 50g
Carbs = 16
Fat = 8

This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 14 2008, 07:03 PM

That's it for now. I feel so generous sharing my recipes. Some are thought up on the spot but they're pretty effective. I'm off to lift. Let's do a 500 pound deadlift for reps today. =) Not attempting any PRs these few months for deadlifts. This is gonna be so fun.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 14 2008, 07:10 PM

thanks that helped alot, i'll stick to the ecto formula. Been drinking 1 litre of milk everyday and other high calories diet, timing for every meal not so accurate, arm size increment but stomach always bloated with wind.



my current supplement is vitamin C, B, multivitamin, fish oil. not yet taking whey

This post has been edited by redline666: Feb 14 2008, 07:19 PM

Go for it. But NEVER neglect real, wholesome food. If you cannot afford whey and have to sacrifice a protein rich diet for it, you have no business buying whey in the first place.
Whey is an awesome supplement, it helps a lot but don't neglect priorities when it comes to nutrition.

I just deadlifted 500 pounds, 3 x 3. =)

This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 14 2008, 09:27 PM