errrrr....IT salary low meh ? i quit my current company due to I got an offer from other company. they offered me x4 time more compare to my current salary … I think if you have the skill , people still will to pay for your skill and experiences.

and by the way , personally I don't think a professional IT guy have low salary.

In IT you need to be involve in niche technology or specialized on a area to demand high salary. You income is limitless, The only downtrend happening now is junior level position like help desk, server admin etc where it's being outsource to India.
But for fresh grad u don't have to worry there always a job in it compare to other profession, because they starting salary is low

Like other said if you work in iIT for 8-10 years but still low wages, something is wrong, might be you're not skill enough or you stay too long in a cheapskate company

This post has been edited by fath82: Oct 7 2021, 06:06 PM

Bro, u need to utilize what you have learned, seek for better opportunity rather than complaints no opportunity knock your door.

Be proactive la please

This post has been edited by lifeofkuli: Oct 7 2021, 09:08 PM

Agreed but not many are capable of joining Fang.

The rest of IT jobs are lower tier n hence lower pay.

Agreed.

Shanghai Jiaotong is top 4 in China together with Shanghai Fudan, Beijing n Qinghua.

Pretty valuable now actually because it's a sign of passion as well. You put these skills in front of them and will stand out easily. Because since IT is so broad, a flexible role that can be allocated into various projects can save alot of manpower considerations as they can rely less on hiring short term contracts. And best of all they can use people with this kind of skills to lead contractors/vendors as they will have good domain knowledge as well as technical skills to do so.

I'll be pretty frank. All these dev tasks required by big companies especially in-house roles are pretty one off. Once a system is rolled out then it wont be looked into again for at least 10 years. Only maintenance and support is required and you wont need a big team for that. That's why it's pretty common for mnc to offer project based contract work for IT especially to dev.

Unless the nature of the business is providing IT solutions like google, facebook, grab etc, there is not really a need for companies like OnG, banking, trading, manufacturing etc to keep a big team of dev.

Have to go overseas lo, high level jobscope like this for growth very rare in malaysia even for MNCs lol. Got one time long ago i considered checking out a "data analyst" job offer in malaysia pay was around RM11k but the job is not really data analytics lol. Just some basic powerbi stuff with excel macros .....if sit in this role sure become dead end and no career progression.

The niche skills you can find in malaysia that pays well are pretty useless outside as well... like cobol which are a time bomb to be made redundant.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Oct 7 2021, 09:53 PM

sure, be willfully ignorant all you want.
gave u example of jobs moving out of country but hey any tom dick harry company out there can match the role and package like those big mnc right? just ppl lazy and never want to improve themselves only right?
terbaik bossku

I know a firm in which, for the same ranking/position, for the same job scope, for around the same amount of years of working experience, for a same education background. In other words, very identical role. But the firm pays salary to the Thai, Indon and Viet much higher than Malaysians. Reason being that, it is more important to retain talents in these countries rather than ours. Cause Thai, Indon and Viet biz are growing tremendously, at a faster pace than Malaysia. The firm bets their money on them and not our country. That's reality and that's so sad to hear.

meanwhile those in SAP earning more than 10k

SG already have every public cloud datacenter you can think of
One thing that hinder those big guys from operating in Malaysia is the lack of power redundancy hence can't build Tier 4 datacenter here
so far only CCP cloud like Alicloud and Huawei cloud have datacenter presence here
but i heard Alicloud datacenter in Malaysia is just a co-loc instead of wholy owned by Alibaba

as the saying goes, janji oren kito

give them all the power to do everything yet still not doing things good, then inciting hasad dengki towards other races

i am not racist against general Malays, i am discriminating to those Malay politicians


come to think of it dinasour companies like HP DXC IBM they are considered sunset in their own league, many old timers had their sweet time in their OnPrem VDI private cloud waterfall whatevernot, most of them are illiterate in cloud, IAC, DevOps, Agile, reskilling them would be a nightmare. But many of these are approaching 50, treat it as early retirement loh, do grab, foodpanda, home kitchen etc



well those Sinkies just treat the offshore Malaysian devs as their bitches seriously



basically full stack in other more modern and catchy term for that is "solution architect" but companies won't use it coz the word architect automatically means "more expensive"

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Oct 7 2021, 11:22 PM

that's why personally as an IT professional I'm really worried.. if my company really decided to move to Vietnam I'll take the chance man.

if im not mistaken, SG actually have no tier 4 datacenter as well because of the proximities to all the civilian and military airports on the island haha. But their infrastructure and political stability made up for it.

yeap basically solution architects, system architects and system analysts fall into this scope haha. Ayam actually working as one and basically this role kinda require one to know about a little bit for almost everything so you can propose the best solution and then lead a team, find outsourced vendors and sometimes even go solo to solve the business problem from scratch.... and by solutions, it can be anything lol so it's really endless self study but it's pretty fun if youre passionate about tech.

the term "full stack" become downgraded alot actually, thanks to all the PaaS (platform as a solution) providers that dev now no longer need to understand the infra. all they need is subscribe to one such as AWS ECS, get their command line interface, setup AWS dynamoDB, unpack all the dependencies from there, setup git and Wala!! To be fair all these are the minimum requirement nowadays for a dev... so basically "fullstack" now becomes a minimum requirement.
young dev nowadays dont even need to crack head on setting up the application servers, database servers, network, load balancers and dont even need to set maintenance jobs like image backup of redundancy mirroring lol the PaaS gawtim everything already. So many dev I come across nowadays dont even know how to use powershell or console.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Oct 8 2021, 12:07 AM

vietnam nice place... got sent there to setup an ERP solution for a company branch there at saigon... food and beer really hnghhh. Sadly never got to go Hanoi... I heard their winter is like HK/TW... damn nice.

Park.

Well they are clearly wrong. I know several of my friends gettkng 600, 700, 800 some even 1000 increment. One friend at a mid size fintech company got an 800 ringgit increment. Cant be just a 0.1% increment.

PS : Should have done IT degree. 😭😭😭

eh, you know the difference between sales and pre-sales or not?