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post Oct 7 2021, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(lifeofkuli @ Oct 7 2021, 09:55 AM)
To those keep commenting IT downtrend, are you from IT? If you are, and salary still low, I would suggest you to review your career path, either you are sux in your skills or  you don't know your strength and negotiate the best for yourself.
I'm an experienced IT professional and been in this industry since 2010, 2500% hike in basic salary in 11 years and still growing, excluding my side income

Edit: you may look at FANG if still have doubts on IT package.
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IT is a very broad spectrum. from data entry clerk to wire crimping technician to gps device installer to programmer to db admin and more are all under the big IT umbrella.
how certain are you that every single job that is encapsulated is not having any downtrend? hmm.gif
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post Oct 7 2021, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Oct 7 2021, 03:45 PM)
Malaysia IT fate is going very stagnant.... deswai im in SG afterall because of the lack of opportunity for my skill set. mostly are just very basic dev task meanwhile the higher level positions are mostly sales and consultancy and  already very rigid and no more openings.  And with IT being such a young industry, those up there are also very young so no point hoping you will take their position laugh.gif

Then comp anies in malaysia have the habit of not trusting local products and all venture on branded solutions so most local software vendors die one by one especially those that produces their own solution due to lack of investments. Those that are doing well meanwhile are mostly official  partnered vendors such as SAP, Oracle etc but its is more of a sales and operations role... not an IT role.

Then we have political instability and also weak infra. Who want to come set up hub here. Especially Imagine after setup then randomly few years later the gov demand 51% bumi equity hahahaha.
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got new trend emerging recently.. sg company open body shop company in malaysia, pay in myr but matching sgd rates and of course doing work for sg
aka a more eloborate wfh if you will laugh.gif

imagine instead pay sgd 2k+ and deal with hassle of permit and what not, they pay myr 6k-7k and probably able to pinch far better talent sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 7 2021, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Oct 7 2021, 04:19 PM)
Very unstable as usually short term contract or project specific. Many of the companies that are doing this are also startups so they can randomly vanish without a notice aka run away with investors money lolol

Besides not just malaysia, they are doing this on the entire SEA region haha.

If youre doing this kinda scope, there's actually alot of opportunity from US and UK as well especially in game dev. A friend of mine making 5k pounds wfh wehhh
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you're spot on on stability aspect. pay maybe be cushy for that experience range but no surprise if kena pump and dump laugh.gif
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post Oct 7 2021, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(lifeofkuli @ Oct 7 2021, 05:21 PM)
That's why as an IT professional, we have to keep learning and apply to our work

If you still work the way people work in 2010, of course the salary or package won't go up....
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just for discussion, lets say at one point there are many mnc support centers here in malaysia. you being part of the support liine and you did all the right things to improve yourself and getting quite the nice package thumbsup.gif
then for reasons beyond your control these mnc decides to move their support centers out from malaysia
now you yourself needing to find new job since couldnt follow the company out.
but job of similar role and pay scale just became very scarce. other smaller companies with similar role simply cannot offer you same package as what those big mnc do even if you are the good at what you do

sux to be caught in downtrend but its far too much generalizing and being too optimistic to brush it off with just saying "keep improving and you will keep raking in more moneh regardless" especially when IT is very broad and the impact is felt different across the spectrum. something which you seem to ignore sweat.gif

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post Oct 7 2021, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(lifeofkuli @ Oct 7 2021, 09:08 PM)
Bro, u need to utilize what you have learned, seek for better opportunity rather than complaints no opportunity knock your door.

Be proactive la please
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sure, be willfully ignorant all you want.
gave u example of jobs moving out of country but hey any tom dick harry company out there can match the role and package like those big mnc right? just ppl lazy and never want to improve themselves only right?
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