can i have a look on your company profit and loss togather with your pay slips and EPF accounts ?

i have been away from forum for some time until someone tagged me in another post haha. i have been in corporate world for quite sometime and with a few years of HR experience and see all sorts of people. 1st of all, you need to understand personal protection data. meaning i cant call to bank and check your accounts balance right? so that is why KWSP cannot disclose, you cant just called up and ask them to provide you information about other person. i know a lot of people selling personal data online, thats how those stupid UNIFI,MAXIS, personal loan get my numbers... ish....

about fake payslips, for your point of view. i truly understand you wanted to know the value of the candidate by bench marking his previous employment. depends on position, but minimum i will call candidate previous employer for background check. as a decent person and giving good impression, i will inform the candidate first before i do anything. some higher and more sensitive position, i will do background check such as directorship, bankruptcy, ctos and so on.

if i were you, if i suspect a fake payslip... i will just not hire at all, because dishonest.

that is all i can say. cheer, dont get butt hurt on what i said. im just sharing some of my exp.

T S ke

Yes, I have submitted all my details many times without having any problems. I am able to do so because I have nothing to hide. When a man says he has RM 10 million in his bank account and if he can present it with actual documents that is because he has nothing to hide. When someone is trying to hide behind the excuse of everything being confidential then there's a reason why. lol

TS mind really haywire. Idk which poor company hire this TS. Hope their business and reputation won't go down the drain.

Can I see video of ur mom and dad fuck each other while making ur stupid ass? There's nothing to hide tho

Than just post here lo what other k/forums members is asking throughout debate.
1.your company name
2.profit and loss of the company
3.the company bank statement
4. Your salary pay slip

If can provide few of the info is good enough since you say nothing to hide. Don't keep chickening out and change subject.
you stands on your argument, of course need supporting documents as well. Right?

This post has been edited by TRAZE99: Oct 9 2021, 10:45 PM

From this thread, can see so many hatred of forumers who are having a rough life (maybe in their own perspective) because of gaji....
Money is very important, but it's not everything.
Don't do everything for money.

This post has been edited by heavensea: Oct 10 2021, 01:05 AM

Hey, no need waste time with this Chinaman lah..

Fuyooh.. our favorite Chinaman SME owner is back. One thing I notice about you:
1. You cannot fight facts. You don't have guts to fight with facts. You only pull assumptions (from your backside I guess).
2. When you cannot fight, you resort to name calling.
3. You must be the type of person whose eyes turn flaming red when you see people drive a car bigger than a Kancil, have good job, good pay, big house right?
Pity to be you.

You're wrong

Salary is based on your experience and skillset. I got my first full-time job early 2020, before that I was working for myself. I had no "salary slips" to show. They didnt even ask for it, nor ask how much I was making.

HR just responded with an offer, and I countered with what I wanted. Because the company wanted me, I got what I asked for; later I found out it was actually above the allocated budget for the position.

Based on your logic, I wouldnt get what I have now. Many are poonting out the idiocy of your approach. Aside from the ethical and legal issues of your actions... its simply impractical. You are making things harder than it has to be.

Just offer what your company is willing to pay, whether that is above/below their previous payslip is irrelevant.

good sir, is there a way to check directorships in Malaysia? is it public info or does it requires a person's consent?

This post has been edited by xCM: Oct 10 2021, 01:44 AM

You are probably a bitter HR, regretting being an HR after seeing people in other roles get paid more than you.

And hence, you are in a delusion thinking all companies use a common standard in assessing increments for employees. LOL. Some companies define a fixed % every year for their employees; no matter how good they are, they're getting the same % rate. How sure are you that all HRs are saints who are able to validate a candidate's abilities from various roles and offer an appropriate salary?

I've had experienced an in-house recruiter telling me that they can only offer based on my past payslip regardless of my demonstrated abilities, even though the expected salary did not exceed their budget. When asked, their justification was they have other candidates that they can offer lower. How about it then? I declined the offer. They ended up trying to offer me again after a few weeks. Yay, nah of course I declined it again. Not gonna work for such a company.

Employment is a contract between an employer and an employee. No such thing as a one-way street in hiring. It goes both ways.

By the way, an HR who needs to open a tered in /k to get opinions about hiring isn't a competent HR.

This post has been edited by nko6213: Oct 10 2021, 02:18 AM

LEL

People oredi gib u payslip that u demand yet u don't belip.

Then keep saying people cheat u, but yet kenot find solid proof.

What a competent hr

Since I work in EPF (counting day for my resignation), I must tell you all, EPF can't share such information to 3rd party regarding individual contribution, if got caught you can get penalized heavily even for internal staff. Even EPF when they hire someone also they can't check the statement. So if they give fake payslip, we really can't do anything except during probation period we may assess their capability. But hey if they can do the job well, who cares? It's all about value proposition

This is why I really2 hate about HR policy in Malaysia. If give, straight lowball kaw kaw even expected salary is not even minimum budget. Compared to "some" great MNC, they don't bother to see my payslip and straight away offer market rate and capability.

I am in hr before. Ts way of doing things was not practical at all. I did avoid this company at all cost.

You must have not been a very good HR to not be able to screen out the fakes from the genuine people.

You don't sound too bright to be honest. I'm not sure how well educated you are but providing a slip doesn't mean anything. Besides, if they were honest then why be scared when it comes to a background check? lol

park so i know the skills tq

It looks like you are really bitter about the fact that I am doing a background check on people. If what you are saying is true, then why hide the proof of the details? You can't even answer a simple question which was asked and is being discussed. If you tell someone something, why then get all tensed and afraid when someone does a background check?

I would question your ability if you really are that good. Why didn't your previous company pay you what you deserved? Oh yes, I forgot, it's because the HR, Managers & CEO of the company sucks and they don't want to waste money on your God given abilities and talents. lol

Why be so sour towards everyone around blaming everyone for you low salary? Why lie on a payslip by feeling that you are worth so much more when you're not? Yes, it goes both ways however there is a limit in between. Don't double up your salary on your pay slip trying to lie. You need to have some level of integrity my friend because it seems like you don't.

What's the problem? You do know that remuneration policy and procedures for directors and senior management in Malaysia can be attained right? I have seen and hired many directors for MNC companies here. Believe me, when it comes to that level, we get official documents from their existing companies. That is not my issue. My issue is with the small fish who fake their slips. Top directors don't have to be embarrassed about how much they earn. lol

Yes, agreed. People in here would fake everything and lie and risk embarrassing themselves rather than do things the right way.