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post Oct 7 2021, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 10:17 PM)
People have to bash me up because wimps can't handle the truth as to how the system works and how much they are worth. It's sad to see so many saying it's okay to lie about stuff like this. If their salary is low, they need to do something about it and that something is not faking documents and lying. Oh well, these are some of the people we have around today.
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Actually i took abit time to read ur comments.. Dude you are mad lol. Your mindset something wrong.
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post Oct 7 2021, 01:40 AM

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TLDR 37 pages, what is TS company so that can avoid?
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post Oct 7 2021, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 4 2021, 10:03 PM)
My company is hiring 2 people and the salary slip they showed shows a very high pay. Now, I know from another mutual friend in the previous company that these 2 guys are working from that their salary is probably 35% less. I actually called up KWSP / EPF to find out based on their EPF number and SOCSO number however they refused to let my HR team get the previous information about this. How can I make a report to get KWSP / EPF to give me historical information on their previous salary?

I was thinking of asking my friend who works in an MNC to try submit their documents saying that he wants to hire them and that he wants to do a background check. Since he works in a well established MNC, I was wondering if KWSP / EPF will disclose this information. Thank you.
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I think you can call to previous company HR dept to verify. Most of time, they will work with you.
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post Oct 7 2021, 02:17 AM

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37 pages and no mention TS company yet?
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post Oct 7 2021, 02:35 AM

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TS really stupid. salary is private. if the person willing to show u their salary, then it is ok. what company are u working? ur parents company? ur stupid parents brainwash ur stupid head? so that u can become stupid HR? fucking idiot family. better keep ur penis or pussy away from breeding. SOHAI TO THE MAX
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post Oct 7 2021, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 09:28 PM)
Yes, your salary say a lot about your past experience. You just shot yourself in your foot. If you work for a company for 15 years and you have been receiving the same salary then it tells me that you are not capable. If you tell me you are really that damn good then if you had a low pay and didn't get what you wanted in terms of a salary you would leave the company. Don't tell me you will stay for 10 years with the same RM 1.5 then come out and say you are worth 10k. Come on. It would help if you actually thought about this at a deeper level and not just write bs here.
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your mind really fuck up boy. please enlarge ur circle. know more people. know their past experience, work, life, employer. all of these related to work. you need to learn about life a lot more. please im begging. for the future of our generation. we cant have a fuck up ppl like you. this is total madness way of thinking. even Thanos wont think like you
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post Oct 7 2021, 02:43 AM

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Wonder why so many ppl butthurt here

Owai tot in jobs and career section pulak.
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post Oct 7 2021, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 09:28 PM)
Yes, your salary say a lot about your past experience. You just shot yourself in your foot. If you work for a company for 15 years and you have been receiving the same salary then it tells me that you are not capable. If you tell me you are really that damn good then if you had a low pay and didn't get what you wanted in terms of a salary you would leave the company. Don't tell me you will stay for 10 years with the same RM 1.5 then come out and say you are worth 10k. Come on. It would help if you actually thought about this at a deeper level and not just write bs here.
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Hey u dumb chinaman HR/boss, do u know why some ppl couldn't leave their shithole company?

Becoz sometimes u need a "good luck" to jump.

A good vacancy normally sure aimed by many candidates, but not all candidate have the "good luck" to get it. Therefore they remain stuck in their shithole company!

Anyone agree with me???
If yes, pls reply to support me, thanks.
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post Oct 7 2021, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Oct 7 2021, 02:47 AM)
Hey u dumb chinaman HR/boss, do u know why some ppl couldn't leave their shithole company?

Becoz sometimes u need a "good luck" to jump.

A good vacancy normally sure aimed by many candidates, but not all candidate have the "good luck" to get it. Therefore they remain stuck in their shithole company!

Anyone agree with me???
If yes, pls reply to support me, thanks.
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Put it this way. TS is using public forum to validate his believe that one shall be valued based on his last drawn salary but at the same time low ball his candidates' expected salary and remuneration. Which company owner does not want to maximize their profit when manpower eat huge chunk of the cost. But as company owner that overcome huge challenges in setup and maintain its company, surely they has their own method to evaluate their candidates. Judging people skill by salary does not make sense when one leg kick company always love to trick young aspiring candidates that you could "learn" or we provide "on hands training" even "challenging environment". These people normally left when they spent much of their times but younger new join generation get better remuneration.


/K replies here only strengthen his view. So just let him be and let his thread buried under others more interesting ukeke threads. For a company owner that busy searching their candidates background surely have lots of time to reply at here.

This post has been edited by xenith: Oct 7 2021, 03:39 AM
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post Oct 7 2021, 05:35 AM

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I'm happy I work where salary negotiations are based on what the employee demand and the employer can offer. Not on the employees previos salary. This practice is so stupid and an invitation to cheat.
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post Oct 7 2021, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 08:55 PM)
Do you not have any shame? That's like giving a high five to yourself. Anyway, I'm not going to waste my time stooping so low to your level. You actually needed self validation so you LIKED your own comment? What an idiot.  hmm.gif
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Hahahahaha. Oh no. So sorry boy. Kena triggered so easily. Go back and drink some milk. It’s a big world out there. You may be swallowed by some monster. Remember to stay in ur cave. Remember not to cry at night alone. Hahahahaha. What a bij.
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 10:35 PM)
Yes, it should have gone up till 50.
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even if reach 1000 pages TS still not able to hire competent worker cause TS will question why so high salary, is it fake pay slip? better hire "honest" worker with low salary and TS can abide the PDPA
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Pugface @ Oct 7 2021, 01:30 AM)
Actually i took abit time to read ur comments.. Dude you are mad lol. Your mindset something wrong.
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TS not mad lah, just thick face and must die die potek. violate PDPA is not wrong, lowballing is not wrong.
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(royrockerfella @ Oct 6 2021, 09:24 PM)
My question is simple, how do you catch ones who lie about their previous job to get a better one. Just because you don't have integrity doesn't mean others shouldn't too. If you lie about your payslip, that would say a lot about how you would also be on the job.
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Nice little projection there, a person that has proven to lack integrity and doing funny shit behind a candidate accusing another person that call him out lacking integrity.

It is not your job to catch a fake payslip, it is also not your rights to have private information unless there is a legal, official way to obtain it.

If you think the salary is too high then just counter offer with what your company can afford else just say your company can't afford to hire them.

Go back to the basic question you seem to refuse to answer, if you found that the candidate is faking his document, are you still consider hiring him?

If you found out that he is really being paid that high, your company clearly can't afford to hire him else you won't be pulling this shit to try to lowball the candidate.

There is no outcome in any case that your company will be hiring this candidate yet you seem to have a personal vendetta to prove that his pay is not real, is that coming from your jealousy or your own lack of security and self esteem?
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:34 AM

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Guys, please dont get dragged into TS's shit fest

For some reason, after being called out for resorting to low brow illegal methods to obtain 3rd party salary information, he is using that as an excuse to switch his narrative.

He is now crucifying ppl that are calling him out by accusing everyone who is against his "method of obtaining 3rd party information" as "supporting employees who doctor/fake their payslip"

If anyone bother to look through the thread, countless solutions has been proposed :

1) Drop the candidate, as he has already started doubting the validity of their claims in terms of remuneration, why bother to continue interviewing or getting to the bottom of the case so to speak?

2) When called out on the illegality of what he is trying to do, he switches his tone to "I DUNNO WHY EVERYONE IS PISSED OFF AND EXPECT ME TO GO ALONG WITH THE HIRE OF THESE DISHONEST CANDIDATES"

3) Nobody in the 37 pages of threads has voice any form of agreement or advocate for potential job candidates to doctor or fake their payslip

4) Posters just acknowledge that fake payslips are a thing, and while there are ways to find out , the methods TS are proposing are illegal and the onus IS NOT on him to find out. Like point no 1, if u don't believe don't hire, its that simple.

5) One must start to wonder, if he can just drop the candidate on the grounds of them not being honest about their payslip , why does he bother to dig so much into the validity of the payslip? Thats how the accusation of TS wanting to lowball candidates came to be.

TLDR : TS is a sohai who claims to be very busy and an employer yet has tons of time to scour the forum and reply to every poster as well as go on a witch hunt on matters that don't or should not concern him wasting company time and resources.

Sekian

This post has been edited by bluetomato: Oct 7 2021, 11:39 AM
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:35 AM

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wow ts open tered and get backfired for 37 pages haha
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:50 AM

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37 pages of bashing.. and he's still alive.


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post Oct 7 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 7 2021, 11:50 AM)
37 pages of bashing.. and he's still alive.
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thick face ppl like our politicians won't die so easily
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post Oct 7 2021, 04:16 PM

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summary....ts want lowball people ,but scare if lowball banyak sangat people will just kthnksbye.
i think this guy ts is hiring is quite skilled and knowledgeable ,if not why bother run so many checks on their previous salary.


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post Oct 8 2021, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Oct 6 2021, 09:37 PM)
Has the fact that not all companies have similar pay structure comes to your mind??

Has the fact that some smaller companies don't pay too well compared to larger companies??

Has the fact that some people were not lucky that they were not the blue eyed boy/girl of the bosses in the company when nepotism in Malaysia is rampant not comes to your mind??
If you are the owner/higher management of the company... I hope you continue leaning onto your current mindset... can't wait to see your company get screwed over like how it did to my previous company....
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Well said bro!
Agree! Bravo!

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