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 Zidoo Z9X RTD1619DR chipsets, DVLL capable

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post Oct 26 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 26 2021, 10:46 AM)
I got the chance to see the different  DV vs Hdr 10+ in My friend AV system.  He use OPPO 205 BD player & Panasonic  calibrated oled TV ,  Procella 5.4.2 atmos sound system.  We are use the Alita: Battle Angel original UHD Bluray Disc .  We all prefer Hdr 10 +  than DV,    Hdr 10+ picture  more cinematic .  We also notice even using same atmos english sound track.  When we are switch to Hdr 10+ ,  Sound track become more dynamic than  DV.  May be DV need BD player more processing power  so affect player sound output performance.
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this is interesting and curious.

why hdr10+ and DV give diff atmos when it is the same audio track?? hmm.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 26 2021, 10:29 AM)
haha.... I only started bluray 1080P era onward.....  bangwall.gif 

after that nvr ending till now.....so far now denon is my 3rd amp, next amp maybe wanna try yamaha after 5 yrs later biggrin.gif

agreed, tech thing nvr ending... just like phone also......nowadays 1 premium phone can get some power amp already  doh.gif
haha..... just try the setting u like n feel comfortable then enjoy the show!!! rclxms.gif

my eyes getting old liao.... already got lou fa..... sigh... cant differentiate much  cry.gif
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same here... but went see a doc last week , he says not much problem, don't worry

I 1080p boom boom happy dy
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post Oct 26 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 26 2021, 09:55 AM)
like cyclone I also malas hahah

seriously I have not touch the z9x since then
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actually why did u change from z9s to z9x?

QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 26 2021, 10:29 AM)
haha.... I only started bluray 1080P era onward.....  bangwall.gif 

after that nvr ending till now.....so far now denon is my 3rd amp, next amp maybe wanna try yamaha after 5 yrs later biggrin.gif

agreed, tech thing nvr ending... just like phone also......nowadays 1 premium phone can get some power amp already  doh.gif
haha..... just try the setting u like n feel comfortable then enjoy the show!!! rclxms.gif

my eyes getting old liao.... already got lou fa..... sigh... cant differentiate much  cry.gif
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i stinge on phone purchase, never buy premium price one... no apple, no orange... xiaomi ok. laugh.gif

so many things to buy, change, upgrade... my list still long... desktop, mesh router, HDDs, TV, media player, phono cartridge... sweat.gif

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 26 2021, 02:58 PM
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post Oct 26 2021, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 26 2021, 02:55 PM)
actually why did u change from z9s to z9x?
i stinge on phone purchase, never buy premium price one... no apple, no orange... xiaomi ok. laugh.gif

so many things to buy, change, upgrade... my list still long... desktop, mesh router, HDDs, TV, media player, phono cartridge... sweat.gif
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because jjooott bought the z9s for me

and also wanna know the new one apa great
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post Oct 26 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 26 2021, 03:17 PM)
because jjooott bought the z9s for me

and also wanna know the new one apa great
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My bad. Lol

But I’m liking the z9s so far. My previous issues with my old z9x box seemed more or less resolved so it’s a good unit 👍

Home Theatre 4.0 it’s 👍


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post Oct 26 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 26 2021, 03:17 PM)
because jjooott bought the z9s for me

and also wanna know the new one apa great
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i didn't read the details... what's the diff z9s vs z9x - what is better?

next, try uhd2000, uhd3000 la..! laugh.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 26 2021, 01:28 PM)
same here... but went see a doc last week , he says not much problem, don't worry

I 1080p boom boom happy dy
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haha..... i planned to do a new spec, gonna ask the shop.... cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 26 2021, 02:55 PM)
actually why did u change from z9s to z9x?
i stinge on phone purchase, never buy premium price one... no apple, no orange... xiaomi ok. laugh.gif

so many things to buy, change, upgrade... my list still long... desktop, mesh router, HDDs, TV, media player, phono cartridge... sweat.gif
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I think this year is the years i spent a lot on those techie stuff..... I just upgrading my Ryzen 2000 series to 5000 series earlier this year....

Then Av stuff........ doh.gif

QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 26 2021, 03:22 PM)
My bad. Lol

But I’m liking the z9s so far. My previous issues with my old z9x box seemed more or less resolved so it’s a good unit 👍

Home Theatre 4.0 it’s 👍
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U no encountered the issue running full BD menu in the poster wall?

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 26 2021, 03:41 PM)
i didn't read the details... what's the diff z9s vs z9x - what is better?

next, try uhd2000, uhd3000 la..! laugh.gif
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udh3000 la.....uhd 2000 is older model if not mistaken thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 26 2021, 06:40 PM)
haha..... i planned to do a new spec, gonna ask the shop.... cry.gif  cry.gif
I think this year is the years i spent a lot on those techie stuff..... I just upgrading my Ryzen 2000 series to 5000 series earlier this year....

Then Av stuff........ doh.gif 
U no encountered the issue running full BD menu in the poster wall?
udh3000 la.....uhd 2000 is older model if not mistaken  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I only watch 720p on my 55” TV. At the distance I’m sitting, that’s already very HD to my eyes. Lol

I’ve watched 1080p and 4K…from what I can see 1080p is about the same to 720p upscaled to my 4K 55”. 4K yes it’s like very real and water-fluid like movement and can see significant different. It’s like almost unreal

In the end, I chose 720p for my old eye viewing experience
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post Oct 26 2021, 07:59 PM

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Haiz... 4k 55 also cab give good picture. Play better sources!!
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post Oct 26 2021, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone2 @ Oct 25 2021, 04:51 PM)
Yup..... but I like the poster wall... hahaa..... so I tend to use poster wall to start the movie. Unless the menu can't work, then i try play normal using poster wall as well. Initially when i got the device, i just use the folder to watch the movie, after play around with poster wall kind of like it.... at least the matching is easier... just sometime will map to wrong one.

The VS10 engine is converting even HDR10 to DV as well, if it is native DV movie content it will shown DV icon on top left, else it will shown VS10 with DV.

I didnt considered Z10pro instead, i was looking at Z9X, in fact i almost wan place order for tat, until i visit the shop n talk to the sales guy, then just pay extra for better player...... pray hard it can last like my DUNE player....

Now thinking whether to get some physical disc with 4k UHD player.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Same here bro... bought zd1000pro to replace my previous Dune which had the power circuit failed.
So far, I am sort of happy, except of some intermittent issues with TrueHD 8ch tracks. But that could be compat issues with my old Yamaha A730 receiver. Time to upgrade to A6A, I guess
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QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 26 2021, 07:24 PM)
I only watch 720p on my 55” TV. At the distance I’m sitting, that’s already very HD to my eyes. Lol

I’ve watched 1080p and 4K…from what I can see 1080p is about the same to 720p upscaled to my 4K 55”. 4K yes it’s like very real and water-fluid like movement and can see significant different. It’s like almost unreal

In the end, I chose 720p for my old eye viewing experience
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haha... 720P vs 4K still big differences..... but upscaling quality not as good as native 4K.... tongue.gif tongue.gif

nowadays 1080p is i mostly using netflix or old BDMV or BDISO file... now slowly collecting 4K source..

when get used to it, hard to turn back oredi.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Oct 26 2021, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ROSS_Solar @ Oct 26 2021, 10:19 PM)
Same here bro... bought zd1000pro to replace my previous Dune which had the power circuit failed.
So far, I am sort of happy, except of some intermittent issues with TrueHD 8ch tracks. But that could be compat issues with my old Yamaha A730 receiver. Time to upgrade to A6A, I guess
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mine one so far so good with all the sound format..... it is only the BD menu prob, hope it can fix in next firmware.....
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post Oct 27 2021, 10:05 AM

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there seems to be a few new zidoo ler...
saw some on youtube
one for audio one, like the Neo and another dunno apa, macam android box or wat

actually hor the z9x should be similar with UHD3000 liao bah... except the space for HDD

I need to watch dune on it right? thinking to just watch it on my q10 pro at my house

if go watch zidoo need to go my parents house
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post Oct 27 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 27 2021, 10:05 AM)
there seems to be a few new zidoo ler...
saw some on youtube
one for audio one, like the Neo and another dunno apa, macam android box or wat

actually hor the z9x should be similar with UHD3000 liao bah... except the space for HDD

I need to watch dune on it right? thinking to just watch it on my q10 pro at my house

if go watch zidoo need to go my parents house
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if u watch with Q10pro, be sure u do not play those with DV, it will not play or get washed out colors; HDR10 video is good.

DV, u gotta use Z9x.
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QUOTE(Jjoottt @ Oct 26 2021, 07:24 PM)
I only watch 720p on my 55” TV. At the distance I’m sitting, that’s already very HD to my eyes. Lol

I’ve watched 1080p and 4K…from what I can see 1080p is about the same to 720p upscaled to my 4K 55”. 4K yes it’s like very real and water-fluid like movement and can see significant different. It’s like almost unreal

In the end, I chose 720p for my old eye viewing experience
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I think big different is Hdr and Sdr (10bit color vs 8bit color). I can differentiate 720P & 1080p in my 65 inch led tv. But 1080p & 4k sdr , I can not see different from my 9ft viewing distance. But 1080P & 4k sdr , their sound density is difference a bit even same sound track. Especially Music show , I prefer 4k sound more dynamic more density. Maybe Video bit-rate increase will affect the sound.

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post Oct 27 2021, 10:47 AM

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1080p when upscaled by player or avr or TV is close to 4k. But HDR Vs SDR, diff is noticeable in terms of color depth, brightness.

Some videos r in 1080p HDR, they r quite good.

Audio is a diff animal. Atmos rules supreme.
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post Oct 27 2021, 10:50 AM

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nabeh... u all macam diff level from wat I experience 10 years ago.....

till today, I'm still not too sure how HDR is suppose to be
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 27 2021, 10:50 AM)
nabeh... u all macam diff level from wat I experience 10 years ago.....

till today, I'm still not too sure how HDR is suppose to be
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You need oled TV or Amoled smartphone which support Hdr to get best experience. I recommend this MV from youtube which promote why hdr is better. This MV got 2 version, one is 4k HDR one is 4k SDR. Off-course they are also sound different although they share with same sound track. 4k hdr sound better than 4k sdr .





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post Oct 27 2021, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(kkthen @ Oct 27 2021, 01:45 PM)
You need oled TV or  Amoled smartphone which support Hdr  to get best experience.  I recommend this  MV  from youtube which promote why hdr is better.  This MV got 2 version, one is 4k HDR one is 4k SDR. Off-course they are also sound different although they share with same sound track. 4k hdr sound better than 4k sdr .




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thanks, will watch it when free

but I don't understand the sound part, isn't HDR SDR just image comparison? y is sound involved with changes as well?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 27 2021, 01:49 PM)
thanks, will watch it when free

but I don't understand the sound part, isn't HDR SDR just image comparison? y is sound involved with changes as well?
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I also do not know why they are different. They should sound same because producer use same source & same format. But funny thing we can easily hear different form this 2 version MV.

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