6700h bro.. still callibrating.. trying to balance between Audyssey and SVS PEQ. There are some recommendation from svs after i wrote to them yet to try..

a monster!

do write up a summary when all is done for the benefit of others!

will try bro.. i think will share something about the audyssey app that i m using for callibration..

itu vinyl 2.0 aje... I think I have tat abraxas too but dunno which copy we have

okok
now waiting for ur zidoo only

not so soon!

now, wanna hear from my fren who's bought a sony A80J oled, see if it's worth it.

then, wanna hear from bro kevinlim about his 6700... maybe i can suggest to this fren!

it can be overwhelming with so many audio terms - DD/DD+/DDTrueHD/DDatmos/DSurround + dts/dts surround/dtsx/dts neural x/dts virtual x.

i m not sure if i understand all of it , but these readings helped:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/...mats-explained/
https://allhomecinema.com/dts-x-and-dts-neu...?id=20017860221
https://rantingsofamadaudiophile.wordpress....ference-part-i/
https://rantingsofamadaudiophile.wordpress....vs-dts-neuralx/

i do notice that PLII no longer available and had been upgraded to Dolby Surround instead. However, Dolby Surround doesnt suit my taste that much. Reason being: the leak of vocal to surround speaker which is irritating.
PLII did a better handling on this where most of the focus is on center speaker when there's a 2 channel stereo signal being processed. Dolby Surround awaken my fronts where musical were being send to the fronts as compare to PLII where the focus of center:front:surround was like 70:20:10.

DTS Neutral:X in the other hand sound better with less leakage to surround speaker but still when i compare to PLII seems like the vocal clarify over PLII is higher over center speaker
Auro 2D : This is interesting.. This is a new format to me and i observe the audio for vocal was clearer on my center speaker and the bass seem intensify.
DTS Virtual:X - so far i havent really got chance to test on this mode. The audio seems very soft for this mode.

yep, PLII been replaced by DSurround... and true, PLII center speaker vocal was more prominent, v good for "talk-talk drama".

DTS NeuralX is more discrete, more focused; DSurround is more "spatial", perhaps too spatial, i find.

DTS NeuralX vs DSurround - i find which one comes out better depends a lot on the title and available tracks, just have to try them.

DTS VirtualX only comes in w/o ceiling/height/atmos speakers. Once installed for height1, virtual X no more... makes sense, NeuralX wud supersede it.

Auro 2D? i hv not seen this yet.

Ever tried Matrix? This selection can be useful, sometimes it comes out best!



after some reading, i realize why some titles have several audio tracks incl PCM.

i will try later using PCM and see what upmix result for each of the surround options.

this may potentially be better for older recordings...?

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 20 2021, 09:35 AM

6700 vs my 2000
definitely an upgrade..
what i like
- more head room due to bigger amplification power
- wifi available
- more sampling rate supported.. x2000 will change the sampling rate to 48000 vs now i can get 44100 sampling rate for my music files with DSD compatible
- Audysey App calibration support. this is not something new but its new for me. I love this piece a lot as its gives more control over the EQ
- dual independent sub preout
- 13 preout channels
- atmos (but i do not have atmos speaker yet) - mostly for the time being i will get a reflective speaker until i have my living room setup redone
- HDMI eARC

what i dont like
- missing PLII processing option
- missing radio (AVR vs AVC) 6700 is actually AVC (but i m not using radio function over my x2000)

so far been a week since i m using the avr, i find this unit has better control over the low frequency thanks to its multieq x32. The low frequency is more solid over the fronts and center. Another big update for me is the Audyssey App which i m still trying to find the best setting to my ears. I cannot be compare to REW but at least it gives me some overview over what is the problem and how to work together with my SVS PEQ to do some correction.

i bought this unit with the thought of having more channel support and allow me to upgrade to pre-pro setup. Till then hopefully i can utilized the power from the unit.

maybe because u got the height speaker thats why Auro 2D not available for your case..
Matrix - ini belum try.. haha

PCM is the base signal of digital audio before it gets converted to analog signal.. DTS and Dolby will package PCM according to their codec. Some lossless some lossy. By default the best for PCM is multi channel mode (pure in pure out).. if u change it to Dolby Surround / DTS then it will start the mixing of audio again.. Often i found PCM work best for concert

bolded... do get the atmos speakers ASAP - they make the diff!

even for the tiny upward firing ones i have, they make a significant diff.

i wud think if u go 4 x ceiling speakers, that wud be awesome.


as for the sub, i also find my new denon better than old onkyo - with a low vol setting, it still produces very pronounced lowest frequencies; i m using a paradigm SW.

one last thing.. from my collection, majority of the BDMVs are in DDTrueHD/Atmos while majority of music videos/concerts are in DTSHDMA.

which mean both Atmos and DTS NeuralX will be used a lot.

great test movie titles - 13 hours Benghazi, Star Trek Into the Darkness, X-Men Apocalypse.

great music/concerts test titles - Scorpions Athens 2013, Hans Zimmer Prague 2017, DTS Demo Music BluRay Collection.

damn.. I think I'm missing out on a lot of things....
u guys AVR + speakers like damn Tok kong

but when I watch movie time, mehhh only

eh... maybe your wires all wrong, out of phase, overloaded...?

and better get yr ears cleaned, checked again?

surveying bro.. i was thinking Klipsch for their famous high frequency so that even its reflected i still can feel something.. but checking the price is even more exp than a ceiling speaker
i think i got Jay Chou LPCM concert but it has been sometime since i play it keke

13 hours Benghazi one of the best realistic sound title.. i remembered i watch this and london has fallen... as comparison u can notice london has fallen gun shoot macam toy gun.. 13 hours those bullet flying scene are immersive.
another two titles that i like to use for testing -
1) Batman return - the underground scene where joker drove a truck and batmobile came in.. solid bgm and bass
2) John Wick 2 - underground scene where John fires machine gun / shot gun follow by a fighting scene where some background noise during the fight where the ambulance/police siren is part of the background ambience noise.

i think i lost my 13 hours copy.. going to "recover" that.. thanks for reminding bro

sigh.... time for the annual ear digging again

i think need to run callibration again.. and check what is the problem baru review back.. the best is to upgrade ur sub then immediately u can feel the differences d.. for movies playback sub play an important role

Check subwoofer setting , Phase zero, Bypass Crossover, volume close to 0db or negative at subwoofer sound level. l If you run a new audyssey auto eq calibration, better take photo to record existing distance & sound level value. So you can compare the new one after run audyssey. Distance & sound level value are very important can not more & less .They Will affect your sound experience. If wrong will make your system lose dynamic .

This post has been edited by kkthen: Oct 20 2021, 11:06 AM

these rm3K klipsch? looks good!
https://shopee.com.my/Klipsch-RP-500SA-Dolb...58-f5ad03aa573f

ya, after digging, play the best files again.

low grade ones won't give u much, u gotta play those 40-90GB ones.

and yes, as suggested, recalibrate, check all over.

i initially made a mistake with the polarity of the atmos speakers but was identified by audyssey, rectified.

yup that klipsch i m thinking something with high power tweeter for the bounce off.. but the price pulls me away..
hows ur onkyo speaker? good atmos effect?

my onkyo skh410 are tiny, cost 1/3 of those klipsch - very mild effect but audible.

my idea was to first try them sitting on top of the front speakers - minimal effect (and my front tops aren't flat).

placed them on top of surround, changed crossover to 120hz - better.

my surrounds are wall mounted. so, the atmos are not too far from the ceiling.

i will decide at some point if i should go from 5.1.2 to 5.1.4.