Is it very common in Asia? Does anyone have it also here can share the experience also?

i have been diagnosed with Sleep Apnea.
now I need to sleep with a pressure machine maybe for my whole life.

Sleep Apnea can lead to:-
1. Obesity
2. Heart attack
3. Diabetes
4. acid influx
5. and many more serious sickness

My info:
173 CM
95KG
BMI - Obese

CPAP machine i currently using:

Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset, cost SGD2000
if import from USA, cost USD 1k exclude shipment. <-- required ENT prescription before can buy it.

currently using Resmed P30i nasal pillow mask and Philips DreamWisp on nasal mask.

Philips DreamWisp on nasal mask = i get <1 AHI average per night
Resmed P30i nasal pillow mask = i get 2 to 8 AHI average per night


Some useful link:
The same test done during my visit ENT. i get score 10.
http://www.apneaboard.com/sleep-apnea-info...sleepiness-test


Share by some bro here.
https://www.mdcalc.com/stop-bang-score-obst...ive-sleep-apnea


What is Sleep Apnea? watch below video


Sleep test
Full Sleep test i have done, the picture is the example.


Partial sleep test Share by PeinEVO


China Sleep Apnea device for a self home test.
https://www.contecmed.com/productinfo/602689.html

attached is an example of my report on the CPAP machine.

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Aug 15 2021, 03:42 PM


Attached File(s)
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sleep apnea is terrible. are you obese?

yes

and the ENT specialist says,
Obese can cause sleep apnea -> sleep apnea cause obese worst cause metabolism go down, -> which cause sleep apnea more serious.
the cycle keep repeat, treatment is to stop sleep apnea problem first and losing fat, but no cure as, obese is not the main cause but do cause it more serious.

What’s the symptoms?

Since when you have the symptoms?

Cukur I only have insomnia.

yeah.
take care of your health man. when sleep apnea patients go bad, they go really bad.

I think it is only proper to ask how does anyone knows they have it?

1. Snoring
2. feel tired during the day. when you sit there doing nothing, u feel like wanna sleep.
3. watch a movie, can lead you to sleep also.
4. getting more and more fat/obese

Just lose weight will help a lot

during Work from home time.
when trap in house and working daily.

feel something not right, then go check and detected this issue.

People with weakness of esophagus muscles. Sleep halfway, muscles collapse, obstruct breathing airway and apnea results. In extreme obesity, high cholesterol & LDL narrow breathing airways and apnea

I pencil neck

Lose weight can cure doc?

the ENT specialist says it will help reduce the severity but no cure.

Operation UPPP = 85% successful rate.
CPAP = 95% successful rate

Yes, ayam no doc
Mostly in extreme obese individuals apnea will be prominent

This post has been edited by Captain89: Aug 15 2021, 01:08 AM

fatigue despite sufficient sleep, somnolence, waking up at night due to breathlessness, snoring. these are the usual red flag early symptoms

sleep study appointment is hard to get, and once youre diagnosed the cpap machine is expensive.

is sleep apnea same as chronic insomnia?

How the doctor diagnosed you? Give u a device to wear during sleep at home?

Soon ma

the still an unknown reason why this happens.
cause Sleep Apnea happens on a normal person, children or anymore.
Obese people have a higher chance to have it, as the fat at the neck will effectively help to block the airway.
no permanent cure yet now.

CPAP machine can help it effectively.

sleep study/polysomnography
you sleep with leads attached and they graph a bunch of things

Apnea related to breathing problems can occur both day and night. Insomnia is sleeping problem could be less melatonin produce by body occur when you want to sleep but cannot .Insomnia symptoms like daytime sleepiness, tiredness, loss concentration to work

Where is the sleep study be conducted? At home or hospital? Need to sleep for how long?

sleep study is expensive.

The machine is expensive, if import from USA, machine alone cost around USD1000 and warranty only cover in USA.
in singapore, the machine cause SGD2000 with 2 years warranty.


this i no idea,.

need to do a nose scope to check any blockage during awake.
then sleep test to check the AHI and O2 level. <-- overnight sleep test in hospital single room while like been an experiment by a mad scientist in the movie. full of wire around you,.

after that, rent the machine to try 2 weeks to see i able to accept the machine or not before go buy the machine.

i did the sleep scope test also to check where really blocking the airway.

mine done in Hospital (must be single room to prevent any noise to the data).

at least 6 hours of data are required, so best to take a sleeping pill prescribed by the doctor.

A friend also got diagnosed recently.

Had to try with the machine or wear an oral appliance.

what is you question is?
the sleep test or CPAP machine for prevent sleep apnea?

you need to see an ENT specialist, i think in my theyre the only subspecialties certified for this. us uses a different system

its notoriously hard to get, OSA is very common so the queue is long

if you suspect you have OSA, this is a good time to invest in a spo2 monitor with a logging app like apple watch. also, audio record yourself sleeping.

if your monitor shows drop in spo2 >4 during your snoring bout, thats suspicious.

normal weight guy can have it too?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

1) The reason i asked is because occasionally i will wake up from sleep gasping for air. Maybe once a month. Do you experienced this as well prior to your diagnosis?

2) overnight at hospital for the test how much is the total cost?

3) how much is the cpap machine?

Thanks!

nope

Sleep study is not that expensive call up the local private hospital or you can arrange one at home should cost around RM 300 to RM 500.

The machine is expensive but it's around RM 3.5K

yes, even children.

anyone can get it.
is about the muscle relax and block the airway.

also can be tonsil blocks the airway.

i think need an ENT specialist for the sleep test.


mine has been done in Singapore hospital.

the sleep test cost me SGD4500. but covered by insurance.

the scope cost SGD450 during the first consultation.

check with the insurance agent to ensure is it covered.

yes they can

quick google shows mostly happen to obese people

but sometime i get the choke especially during nap

Ya I'm not obese. I was told by ENT once i have long tonsil

1. no, i feel tired during the day and snoring.

2. i did the test in Singapore hospital, which cost SGD4500 for the test.

3. i pay SGD2000 for the machine with 2 years warranty. i have option to buy grey unit aka import from USA (without warranty or need to send back to USA for warranty) with price of SGD1500.
i using Resmed airsense 10 autoset,.

my friend which is not obese having severe sleep apnea also.

is the muscle relax cause the blockage, obese just make it even worst only.

1.4k only in shopee

Ya forget to mention i snore as well

thats not how "medical grade" equipment works

Matt Ogus has sleep apnea. Sleeps with a bane mask machine. Can google image him if don't know who he is. Nothing much to do with obesity IMO, mostly birth defects. Of course, obesity would only make it worse.

Sleep apnea cause people become obese cause of metabolism reduce when lack of O2, and obese will cause sleep apnea even more worst,.

Is it difficult to sleep with the cpap mask on?

https://youtu.be/wlmm_HR7kY4
Tennis ball tshirt

any treatment?

yes, All Philips CPAP machine has been recalled, cause got a form that reduces the machine noise deform and cause cancer to the patient.

the deform form has all been inhaled into the lung of the user over time..

use CPAP machine only,

to prevent it happen, no cure.

Post gambar la.... Prove u not fatty BOM BOM

if you can't trust scientific study results, no point explain to you.

rip

In worse condition, they fall asleep during driving. Most of the time when call at the traffic light

Im obese and always tired. Not to extend wanna sleep any time in day time. Guess unemployment messing with my mental.

hereditary

The worst and loudest snoring in 4 generation that I know

Obese
Tired all day round
stop breathing during sleep and suffocate
Vocal problem

There is no cure for it

Surgery come will come side effect with it depend on where you operate it.

Yea he had to use the cpap machine. Also from sg.

Btw sleep apnea can affect ppl who are not obese too. It's a common misconception that people who are fat only can develop sleep apnea. My friend gyms regularly, super fit bt yet diagnosed with it

I thought it was the other way round?

yes, but a normal BMI person gets sleep apnea issue but never detected it then the person becomes obese over time cause metabolism go down.

at the end, when the person is already obese then only detected sleep apnea and blame obesity for it.

any person including healthy children can get sleep apnea.

is the tonsil and/or tongue muscle relax and collapse that blocks the airway.
no matter thin or obese, you have that muscle as well.

many obese people don't have sleep apnea also,

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Aug 15 2021, 12:37 PM

Change your lifestyle mate, still got hope
What's your height and weight? Start from there

Usually sebab gemok.

Nah bra sleep apnea usually have complaints one.
If obesity doesn't directly cause it, it definitely exacerbates the condition.
Being gemok is never healthy.

And cultivate active lifestyle.

Not just eat sleep.

Had it almost every single night despite normal bmi.

Quit smoking and it aint no more.

173cm
95KG

This is what ENT specialist told me,
Research papers say the same also. (if die die can't accept this, nothing can say or discuss already)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5181619/

but obese do bring a much higher risk to have sleep apnea.

the ENT specialist calculated,
Current has 62 AHI,
even my weight drop to 70kg, i will still have 32 AHI which i will still have Sleep Apnea problem.


some ENTs specialists on youtube share that tongue and tonsil exercise could help relieve sleep apnea problems.

This post has been edited by angelgemini: Aug 15 2021, 01:35 PM

normal weight also can get ..


could be due to tonsil , facial configuration also can plays a part

i have seen someone that is normal weight or got a little bit of stomach(like just love handle) have AHI of over 100.. scary

Easy way to see if u have high risk of sleep apnea is to do STOP BANG questionairre.. just google it.

to conclusively confirm it,

do a partial sleep study (level 3) or if u banyak duit or complicated case get a polysomnography(psg or full sleep study which is level 1/2)

from there can conclusively know what is ur condition

This. CPAP is the gold standard treatment already. Others like surgery and losing weight may help, but unless your apnea is very mild, you will still need to use CPAP after surgery and losing weight.

which cpap machine TS is getting and how much does it cost?

Resmed AirSense 10 AutoSet
SGD2000

Drop till 75kg
Even if it still persist, trust me your health will be much better and as u say 62 vs 32.

what you say 100% true.
no matter how obese is not healthy.

I DONT NEED your googled answer. I'm asking TS for his/her actual experience which is invaluable.

i super jelly a guy i know with this issue. he can sleep anywhere anytime within 10 seconds.
nighttime saw him choke and wake up and then snore within 10 seconds
i go surgery the surgeon sedate also i cannot fall asleep after counting down weh i bet.

This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Aug 15 2021, 02:35 PM

i have uploaded the CPAP reading (PDF) at the first post.
is an example of the sleeping result yesterday night.

Sorry for being blunt, but you must be obese.

Loss some weight. Its going to help, a lot. Come see me for the weight management medication.

im just answering question on how usually they going to diagnose u with sleep apnea since i do work with the ent and respi dr in regards to sleep study and cpap.. im sorry if u think its "googled answer" thus may be wrong. im saying google the stop bang questionaire since usually dr would also ask the same type of question from that questionaire before referring for a sleep study test.

you stop breathing for a few seconds in your sleep, that's very dangerous

this is the same questionnaire i did when i first visit ENT specilist.

https://www.apneaboard.com/sleep-apnea-info...sleepiness-test

this could help, my score is 10.


but this test is not 100% accurate to detect Sleep Apnea, cause not everyone is able to answer it accurately.

may i know what mask are u using ?

is it the nasal pillow or full face mask?

must cpap. jangan tak cpap.

my father had sleep apnea, woke up 4-5 times every night swearing.

not treated in anyway and i was a dumb ass for not knowing.

passed away from heart attack after his regular morning walk.

interrupted sleep is serious business. take care of yourself, ts.

from the info i understand, it will not kill, it just causes the brain to awake to control the muscle open back the airway.
but prolong of this lead to low O2 in the body,

my sleep study shows the lowest point of O2 in my blood is 72% at 1 point.

yup this is another test that u can try other than the stop bang test... again both questionaire is just to see if u have high risk or not for sleep apnea.
sleep study is the only way to conclusively confirm u have sleep apnea or not.

ENT, respiratory physician, Neurologist depend who has the expertise. Conducting the test is not expensive and you can always bring the results to the specialist either in government or private.

currently using Resmed P30i nasal pillow mask and Philips DreamWisp on nasal mask.

Philips DreamWisp on nasal mask = i get <1 AHI average per night
Resmed P30i nasal pillow mask = i get 2 to 8 AHI average per night

i still testing on the mask.

yes, could lead to heart attack.
using the mask when sleep, i can totally sleep and awake in when morning without night wake or dream also.
very quality sleep.

I'm sorry. I misunderstood your statement, i thought u asking me to google instead of asking questions to TS. Haha. Ya i checked out the STOP BANG. Really helpful. Thanks man

yes, even buying the mask and CPAP machine, need to have the official prescription from the doctor.
without that, u not able to buy it officially.

sunway medical centre has a sleep clinic.

i think rm3k+ and up. go sleep there for a night and they'll take your stats for the day.

You direct go to ENT or go to GP first? Got company insurance cover?

i was once experienced not being able to sleep for straight 5 days. was that related to sleep apnea?

This post has been edited by bristlebb: Aug 15 2021, 03:06 PM

brain damage sets in after the 4th day, mang.

apa cerita?

sleep apnea is waking up at night because your air passage collapsed and you can hardly breathe.

shallow sleep and you kept waking up multiple times at night.

i using medical insurance, direct to ENT (skip GP) as advised by the insurance agent.
as the first thing, the check is the Nasal scope which considers day surgery. <-- can claim insurance directly cause day surgery

me, not ENT, so can't comment on this.
but sleep apnea is unable to have good quality sleep, still can sleep but tired during the day.