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 Dog Kibbles (Discussion), Which brand do you feed your furkid?

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blessedfin
post Oct 20 2007, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 19 2007, 09:15 PM)
Homecooked is indeed better.... Jaunty using BARF method a bit...

Anyway, there are rules to home cooking.... use very little oil to no oil if possible lah. Never include salt or any kind of seasoning.

No fatty parts included. Only lean meat. There is no need to make gravy and all.

Well, one thing you can do is this. Buy mince meat and some meat pieces(any sort of meat) and boil or lightly cook with very little olive oil. Put aside. Then later boil some potatoes or rice(the best is brown rice)... You can also give a bit of boiled pasta too. Make sure all this no salt. Then you can lightly boil some carrots. Peas, broccoli, leafy veggies can be blended fresh until pulpy like a puree, add a small drop of oil coz the oil helps absorb the nutrients into the body. You can add some apple into the puree too. Mix it with the meat, boiled carbs and you got yourself a good meal for your dog. A few times a week, introduce some boiled liver, boiled heart and lightly cooked tripe. A hard boiled egg is also good.

You also need to supplement some minerals and vitamins so get hold of a good bottle of multivitamins and minerals for dogs. Try and not use human ones coz we do not know what a dog needs, sometimes human vitamins can overdose.

If you are unsure about the diet, write down your ideas, then ask your vet about his thoughts, if he agrees it is a good diet then go right ahead.
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is a 7 weeks old ACS pup can eat homecooked food too??
my mum usually give homecooked food for my dogs back in Indonesia..
and is it true that beef is better than chicken?
my vet said that a lot of dogs are allergic to chicken meat??
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post Oct 20 2007, 01:55 PM

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When we talk about homecooked food, we are talking about a balanced diet, not scrap from what we human eat. So many times, it is hard for us to really give a balanced diet, i.e. how do we know what nutrients is in 1 piece of meat? That's why many dog owners are feeding dog kibbles.

Certain dogs are allergic to chicken, same for beef! So there aren't much different actually, it is just that which suits your dog more.
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QUOTE(blessedfin @ Oct 20 2007, 11:13 AM)
is a 7 weeks old ACS pup can eat homecooked food too??
my mum usually give homecooked food for my dogs back in Indonesia..
and is it true that beef is better than chicken?
my vet said that a lot of dogs are allergic to chicken meat??
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Well, what White Palace said is true.... you won't know if your home cooked is balanced or not. That's why I said, list your ideas and check with a vet first. Alot of people think "Just give the dog what we eat is enough" But this is so wrong.

I won't suggest homecooked meals for puppies coz they are at a growing stage, they need the proper nutrients to grow properly and develop fully. Dog food companies hire food nutritionist to come up with a balance diet for dogs, but we do not have such people doing it for us....

You can switch home cooking when your pup is any adult as they have finished growing and you can check with your vet about a balance diet but really, most vets would tell you just stick to dog kibbles coz easier. I mean, are you really willing to slave away at a stove and super market, getting the best ingredients and all for your dog every day or weekly? You may say yes at first but after the 1st year, if you are working or a student with lots of assignments, you may start to neglect the diet and end up feeding an unbalance meal to your dog.

Some dogs are allergic to beef, some chicken, some lamb..... that's why we got so many different meat base dog kibble. Got the pork kind, fish or salmon kind, even vegetarian coz there are some dogs that are allergic to any animal protein.

Beef can cause a dog to develop body odour that attracts ticks.... so many dog kibble actually use chicken coz chicken is easier to digest...
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post Oct 21 2007, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 20 2007, 09:32 PM)
Well, what White Palace said is true.... you won't know if your home cooked is balanced or not. That's why I said, list your ideas and check with a vet first. Alot of people think "Just give the dog what we eat is enough" But this is so wrong.

I won't suggest homecooked meals for puppies coz they are at a growing stage, they need the proper nutrients to grow properly and develop fully. Dog food companies hire food nutritionist to come up with a balance diet for dogs, but  we do not have such people doing it for us....

You can switch home cooking when your pup is any adult as they have finished growing and you can check with your vet about a balance diet but really, most vets would tell you just stick to dog kibbles coz easier. I mean, are you really willing to slave away at a stove and super market, getting the best ingredients and all for your dog every day or weekly? You may say yes at first but after the 1st year, if you are working or a student with lots of assignments, you may start to neglect the diet and end up feeding an unbalance meal to your dog.

Some dogs are allergic to beef, some chicken, some lamb..... that's why we got so many different meat base dog kibble. Got the pork kind, fish or salmon kind, even vegetarian coz there are some dogs that are allergic to any animal protein.

Beef can cause a dog to develop body odour that attracts ticks.... so many dog kibble actually use chicken coz chicken is easier to digest...
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ah..i think i get your idea smile.gif
thanks a lot..i think this will help ^^
I use Blackwood now..as recommended by the breeder
just now when she poo, the poo seems a little bit watery
is it normal for her..??
or wait n see for several days..?

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post Oct 21 2007, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(blessedfin @ Oct 21 2007, 12:46 AM)
ah..i think i get your idea smile.gif
thanks a lot..i think this will help ^^
I use Blackwood now..as recommended by the breeder
just now when she poo, the poo seems a little bit watery
is it normal for her..??
or wait n see for several days..?
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Did she had her vaccin 2-3 days ago? Did the breeder dewormed the puppy? Check with your breeder for those info. It is easier for you to tell the vet if anything went wrong. Did you add milk into the food?

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post Oct 21 2007, 09:28 AM

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When I bought my Murphy, his poo likely to water, because the dog needs to take time to accommodate new environment. Besides that, I have mixed some dog's milk powder with kibbles. Subsequently, I just give him kibble and now his poo turn to be normal.

Tomorrow gonna take him for vaccination~
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Oct 21 2007, 01:14 AM)
Did she had her vaccin  2-3 days ago?  Did the breeder dewormed the puppy?  Check with your breeder for those info.  It is easier for you to tell the vet if anything went wrong.  Did you add milk into the food?
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she just got her first jab and dewormed last 2 days..
actually i wanted to at the first time.. and then
i didnt add milk coz i see the poo was watery..
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post Oct 21 2007, 10:35 AM

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hmm..haha i'm bac in da forum, went m.i.a for so long.
for barf, i really follow the scale and recipe to see wat they need, at least this is wat i can do for them. not 100% barf yet, still bit reluctant to try putting in chicken heart, inner organs.. = =

vege puree sometimes i even use to giv them as snacks. my xx getting fatter n fatter..haha..
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post Oct 21 2007, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(blessedfin @ Oct 21 2007, 10:00 AM)
she just got her first jab and dewormed last 2 days..
actually i wanted to at the first time.. and then
i didnt add milk coz i see the poo was watery..
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Better don't add milk since its poo is watery. A bit soft poo is quite common for puppy, but should not watery like purging type. Observe its poo and see any worms coming out? Since it has been dewormed 2 days ago, should spot the worms coming out then. Does the nose dry or wet? When the dog is not feeling well, its nose will be dry or very watery like running nose.

Why don't you take it to the vet for check up since you can't really sure what went wrong with her.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Oct 21 2007, 02:37 PM)
Better don't add milk since its poo is watery.  A bit soft poo is quite common for puppy, but should not watery like purging type.  Observe its poo and see any worms coming out?  Since it has been dewormed 2 days ago, should spot the worms coming out then.  Does the nose dry or wet?  When the dog is not feeling well, its nose will be dry or very watery like running nose. 

Why don't you take it to the vet for check up since you can't really sure what went wrong with her.
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actually i want to let her adapting to her environment first
since I just got her yesterday
but i think the poo is normal..i've checked with the breeder..
and i didnt observe any wom yet.. hehe
i will bring her to ver if this continue tonight..^^
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post Oct 22 2007, 01:48 AM

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Today, I went to Seapark Pet Supplies to get dogfood for Casper. I saw they have something new again this time.

I bought d*** Van Patten's Natural Balance. For more information: http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/UltDog.html for RM34 (forgot how many kilos but less than 3kg)
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Oct 19 2007, 07:47 PM)
i think junnie and jaunty_niel's giving homecooked food mix wit kibbles.
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i only feed innova evo.. no time to cook for them..
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normally don mix wif kibbles if i feed barf.
no raw wif kibbles, bad digestion.

vege puree or fruits puree wif kibbles, yogurt, dats ok..barf doesnt need 2 be cooked.
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QUOTE(junnie87 @ Oct 22 2007, 02:10 AM)
i only feed innova evo.. no time to cook for them..
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hey, bubu and chacha not picky to kibbles ah?? u experience b4??
Just wanna say, Canidae is a good brand. But if u wanna feed ur dog with Canidae, better start when it is still young like 3-4 months old. Or else, very very susah oh.............
FIFI now everyday only eat a little bit, sometimes whole day dun wanna eat. I know she's hungry, but just dun wanna eat her kibbles. If got other human food like boiled potatoes, carrots, or fruits like apples, pears, she'll wallop all!!! Now no more human food or treats for her, but shih tzu really stuborn lah.................
Will try for another week. If really dun wanna eat, have to change kibbles lah, susah oh..............
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post Oct 24 2007, 01:29 PM

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Previously I fed my dog with Eukanuba but then I switched to Acana Salmon & Potato because I was told some dogs might be allergic to chicken or beef and my dog was scratching a fair amount. Acana Salmon & Potato was doing fine for my dog but decided to switch to Orijen to try out. But haven't started feeding my dog with Orijen yet. The pack I bought is the normal Orijen for adults. If my dog is allergic to it then I'll change to Orijen fish.
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Is science plan a good brand for dog food??I got 2 sample packs wondering is it good to feed my dog.
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post Oct 24 2007, 08:20 PM

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I don't think Science Plan is as good as those brands mentioned in the topic thus far. I do think Science Plan is better than Eukanuba but Acana and Orijen are definitely better. Not too sure about Blackwood but I see many people voted for Blackwood.
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QUOTE(kevinleng @ Oct 24 2007, 08:20 PM)
I don't think Science Plan is as good as those brands mentioned in the topic thus far. I do think Science Plan is better than Eukanuba but Acana and Orijen are definitely better. Not too sure about Blackwood but I see many people voted for Blackwood.
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Again it all depends on ur dog, whether it can adapt to d food or not, v tried Blackwood Catfish & Potato, too bad it contains duck meat, that makes my dog itchy n turn skin pinky all of a sudden. No choice but to feed Purina Salmon, v know Purina is not a good choice but switching d food now n then dont make any good either. So once u think u have made up ur mind n see good coat and poo that is in good condition then is ok liao. smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2007, 09:22 PM

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I've been feeding my furkids with Science Plan for almost 2 years but the last time I bought Science Plan, which was almost 6 mths ago, my Abby started losing a LOT of weight.

Both the furkids and my brother's furkids won't touch the Science Plan kibble at all, even after starving themselves for days already. Abby was already skin and bones, so we fed them with home cooked meals (boiled chicken).

After checking with the vet (everything's fine), after the first few days seeing Abby losing so much weight, we called in to our pet food supplier and told them about it. The owner said two ppl, (including us will be 3), have already complain bout their dogs not taking the Science Plan kibbles from the same batch.

At that time, there was that scare regarding contaminated kibbles and stuff, so we called up to Hills (at the Animal Medical Center - where money sucking, unfeeling vets charge worried owners an arm and a leg) and told them about our problem.

Then immediately, this Indian guy drove to our house and had a look at Abby and immediately offer to have free medical checkup for my furkid as well as new Science Plan kibble.

Suffice to say, after everything's done, we rejected their offer to replace a new 15kg bag for us.

We dump the almost full bag of Science Plan (not even going to give it to SPCA coz something is OBVIOUSLY wrong with it). After that, I've been feeding my furkids with California Natural. Their fur is getting better than before.

Is Science Plan good? I don't know but personally, I'm not going to feed my furkids with their kibbles again. Ever.
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ic...i'm now feeding my dog nutro dog food + eukanuba treat..poo still smelly i think bcos of the eukanuba treats...wait the treats finish i observe some time to see whether nutro is good enough for my dog..anyway nutro is recommended by a guy from petshop when i told him i dunwan smelly poo tongue.gif then he recommend nutro rather than blackwood.

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