Dog Kibbles (Discussion), Which brand do you feed your furkid?
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 Oct 17 2007, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 17 2007, 03:01 PM) That is one of my main concerns too... imagine if your nasi 1/3 less, EVERYDAY! hahahhaha ..... i always worry hepy not enough portion to eat   . Now need to reduce 1/3  btwn madmoz, wud abt u?? wud kibbles u give to siu kat and siu wan ? I saw both of them .. their hair .. quite soft and silky too. |
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Oct 17 2007, 03:05 PM
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eagle pack holistic
Added on October 17, 2007, 3:10 pmbtw, ms fur supposed to be rough and wiry... not soft and silky  This post has been edited by madmoz: Oct 17 2007, 03:10 PM |
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Oct 17 2007, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 17 2007, 03:05 PM) eagle pack holistic but saw da pictures that u took .. both siu kat and siu wan have very soft and silky hair wor Added on October 17, 2007, 3:10 pmbtw, ms fur supposed to be rough and wiry... not soft and silky  . Hepy's one is soft when you touch it but seems very dry . |
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Oct 17 2007, 03:17 PM
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yalor, that's why they 'tak pass'...
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Oct 17 2007, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Oct 17 2007, 02:36 PM) wanna ask ... Yah, i was worry too, but dont seems to be a problem they will get used to it. The reason is for Orijen or perhaps any other dog food that main ingredients are real meat, it is very fulling. If a dog food consist mostly fillers, we are just filling a dog's stomach without any real nutrients in there, just make the stomach full but come out as poo poo, no point right?say if i feed my boy with orijen, so, i need to reduce da consumption a bit but then won't my boy feel hungry coz da food is suddenly lessened ?? |
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Oct 17 2007, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(White Palace @ Oct 17 2007, 03:23 PM) Yah, i was worry too, but dont seems to be a problem they will get used to it. The reason is for Orijen or perhaps any other dog food that main ingredients are real meat, it is very fulling. If a dog food consist mostly fillers, we are just filling a dog's stomach without any real nutrients in there, just make the stomach full but come out as poo poo, no point right? ya, u got a point there  . I'll jz switch to orijen after he finishes his eagle pack ... jz newly opened one and he doens't like it . |
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Oct 17 2007, 03:36 PM
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LOL! Then later pennywise will tease me again say me got better biz liao, HAHAHA!
Anyway, I do not simply push a product but yet, it is from my point of view. So do feel free to do more research on your part too! |
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Oct 17 2007, 05:08 PM
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ya, i've been reading a lot of comments from people regarding orijen .. not a bad product (i guess) if it suits ur furkids
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Oct 17 2007, 05:15 PM
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Definitely good ingredients and i will say should be one of the priority product to try, but of corse it must suit your furkids. If not suitable, no point giving also, try the next best alternative then.
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Oct 17 2007, 07:16 PM
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You will be feeding less when you feed Orijen or Innova coz of the protein, it takes some time to digest it. It's like us humans.... if I went to a rice and corn buffet, I think I can eat many many plates but once I ate at a meat buffet..... after 2 plates very full lioa....
Of course, follow the direction of the packaging, give the proper amount first and see. If your dog just eats half of that amount, then the next time just give half lah. Feed according to how much your dog can it without exceeding the right amount to be given. |
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Oct 17 2007, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(White Palace @ Oct 17 2007, 03:23 PM) Yah, i was worry too, but dont seems to be a problem they will get used to it. The reason is for Orijen or perhaps any other dog food that main ingredients are real meat, it is very fulling. If a dog food consist mostly fillers, we are just filling a dog's stomach without any real nutrients in there, just make the stomach full but come out as poo poo, no point right? But then, doesnt this also partly see how much your dog's body can absorb? Often, I am told dont overfeed the dog, be it brand-X or Orijen because whatever they eat, they poo. Everything is highly dependent on their digestive system abilities.QUOTE(White Palace @ Oct 17 2007, 03:36 PM) LOL! Then later pennywise will tease me again say me got better biz liao, HAHAHA! Ooooo... I'm not going to tease you liao, I am going to rob you. Didnt see my previous post meh? People are concerned about your Maltese, I just want to carry your wallet for you.Anyway, I do not simply push a product but yet, it is from my point of view. So do feel free to do more research on your part too! |
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Oct 17 2007, 08:13 PM
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Well, actually i'm not nutritionist, so i can't give you answer on everything, professionally. So perhaps you can give me advice, too! But i believe what you say is true, no matter what brands, if we overfed, it is a waste or it turns into fat. But if you ask what is my main point posting here, i'm just trying to express my concern of "source of protein". Cause as what i've read and believed, dogs should get protein from meat and they hardly digest protein from plants. But at the same time, I do agree if a dog couldnt tolerate a high level of protein, they should switch. Yet, i disagree that 40% should be titled high level, since dogs should get protein from meat which naturally high in protein level. BUT at the same time, i couldnt conclude whether 20%, 30% or 40% is the right level of protein, as i did not do any studies on these. What my thought is just that, if plant protein can't be absorbed mostly, so are we getting the percentage of protein as per the analysis?
Hope my postings dont sound complicating, my English was very very very poor until once i committed with a big quarel in forum, and i start learning language skills a little.  |
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Oct 18 2007, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 16 2007, 09:01 PM) The protein allergy could be due to the type of protein..... like if my toby takes beef or certain chicken dogfood brands, his skin will break out. That's all I can safely say, some dogs are allergic to the type of protein.... but to some, Orijen memang high protein lah but so far I have never seen my Chelsea go overweight even though she eats 2 meals a day.... just that other brands with lots of fillers, they fillers are the ones that make them go overweight..... but once a dog reaches senior age, it is advisable to feed a low calorie dogfood.... Hey hun, Every dog can react differently to certain dogfoods.... some dogs may be allergic to certain herbs or ingredients in the food, I would say YEAST... quite a number of dogfood includes loads of yeast. What put me off into buying that organic dogfood I saw was that it contains a whole lot of yeast! Sometimes if your dog is prone to skin rashes or itchiness, yeast can make it worst. Some could be the lack of iron and zinc.... so research, and try brands that suit your dog as well high in quality. If your dog is prone to itch skin which leads to sores that never heal, then stay away from yeast. But if your dog is normal, brewer's yeast is quite fine if taken in the right amounts. Anyway, now ah, I'm trying a supplement known as Zinpro dog biscuit supplements that contain natural zinc. Seems that it can help dogs with sensitive skin, helps with shedding and coat growth, even helps with hotspots on dogs and rashes.... well, my dogs taking the supplement now, wait for 6 weeks see got improvement or not. Toby eating for his skin condition, Chelsea eating to see if can lessen shedding. Large dogs take 2 biscuits, small dogs 1 a day. Hahah... a bit pricey... normally RM35 but the petshop at Plaza Damas sells for RM33 I think.... see how effective it is, if it works, then it will be a must buy item for my dogs liao.  Just a note(if u don't already noe la) , I'm not sure abt dogs but in humans when given Zn, the absorption of iron and copper is compromised as Zn, iron and copper are competing with each other for absorption. Zn will be taken in as a priority, iron or copper are excreted. But, if your dog( or rather, in humans) is healthy and no problems and on high protein diet...the absorption is compromised, but not to an unhealthy level. But if the dog already lacks iron, do take note ... Maybe can check if the biscuit is also fortified with iron or copper ?? This post has been edited by RealityDreamer: Oct 18 2007, 12:48 AM |
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Oct 19 2007, 04:25 PM
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bought a packet of Canidae lamb last nite, feed FIFI with it.
Normally for other kibbles, she will go sniff sniff then go away. WHen i ask her to eat again, sayang her, at least she will makan abit, then only walk away. When i try canidae, sniff sniff, go away, langsung dun wanna eat.... Then i pick one piece and feed her, she spit out, sniff sniff then walk away Now i really know that Canidae really does not taste good, aroma also not strong. Now need to starve her for 1 or 2 days, see she wanna eat back her kibbles or not. If not, whole bag wasted............ SHIH TZU R NO.1 PICKY EATERS................. |
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Oct 19 2007, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Oct 19 2007, 04:25 PM) bought a packet of Canidae lamb last nite, feed FIFI with it. ROFLMAO !! Normally for other kibbles, she will go sniff sniff then go away. WHen i ask her to eat again, sayang her, at least she will makan abit, then only walk away. When i try canidae, sniff sniff, go away, langsung dun wanna eat.... Then i pick one piece and feed her, she spit out, sniff sniff then walk away Now i really know that Canidae really does not taste good, aroma also not strong. Now need to starve her for 1 or 2 days, see she wanna eat back her kibbles or not. If not, whole bag wasted............ SHIH TZU R NO.1 PICKY EATERS................. Canidae really that tasteless ??? hahahahahahaha... |
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Oct 19 2007, 07:00 PM
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does anybody here give fresh food..
i mean home cooked food instead of dry food?? is it better than dry food??? |
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Oct 19 2007, 07:45 PM
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BARF (bones and raw food), if done properly is indeed better.
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Oct 19 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(blessedfin @ Oct 19 2007, 07:00 PM) does anybody here give fresh food.. i think junnie and jaunty_niel's giving homecooked food mix wit kibbles.i mean home cooked food instead of dry food?? is it better than dry food??? |
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Oct 19 2007, 09:15 PM
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Homecooked is indeed better.... Jaunty using BARF method a bit...
Anyway, there are rules to home cooking.... use very little oil to no oil if possible lah. Never include salt or any kind of seasoning. No fatty parts included. Only lean meat. There is no need to make gravy and all. Well, one thing you can do is this. Buy mince meat and some meat pieces(any sort of meat) and boil or lightly cook with very little olive oil. Put aside. Then later boil some potatoes or rice(the best is brown rice)... You can also give a bit of boiled pasta too. Make sure all this no salt. Then you can lightly boil some carrots. Peas, broccoli, leafy veggies can be blended fresh until pulpy like a puree, add a small drop of oil coz the oil helps absorb the nutrients into the body. You can add some apple into the puree too. Mix it with the meat, boiled carbs and you got yourself a good meal for your dog. A few times a week, introduce some boiled liver, boiled heart and lightly cooked tripe. A hard boiled egg is also good. You also need to supplement some minerals and vitamins so get hold of a good bottle of multivitamins and minerals for dogs. Try and not use human ones coz we do not know what a dog needs, sometimes human vitamins can overdose. If you are unsure about the diet, write down your ideas, then ask your vet about his thoughts, if he agrees it is a good diet then go right ahead. |
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Oct 20 2007, 12:25 AM
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My Murphy most the time very good boy, he tend to finish all the kibbles, but sometimes need me to hold the kibble and let him taste one or two pieces, then he will proceed.
Now I am investigating which kibble causes my Murphy rashes, because I have mixed up Acana and Orijen for him sometimes due to different taste. Therefore, now keep on giving him Orejin see whether rashes will fade. If yes, then change to Acana....Hehe~ |
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