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 Unifi Connection Issue to International Server, Occured usually at night 9-11pm

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BenYeeHua
post Dec 17 2021, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Dec 17 2021, 12:46 PM)
Right now problem is outgoing traffic to Equinix SG got problem caused congestion.

Cloudflare route is most sucks by TM, i am who not sure who keep changing the route announcement every few month.

Tencent since last year already got server for their CDN services for Malayisa POPs but hosting at TM
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Yes, one more testing from me.

Tencent - China Mobile(via Equinix SG) - affected

So it is just unlucky that today they switch me over to private IP, while Equinix burst on same time, so I can't know who is causing trouble... sweat.gif
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Ya, last year only used SG server, after Wechat becoming WeChat Global and WeChat HK with different law applied, then they can safety to implement the law on the Malaysia server, and enable MY server to Malaysia users.

But still, if need tech support, they will move it back to SG and HK server for processing and accessing.

So, one of the problem of CDN is law applied on data, a few China friends I know are switching over WeChat global to prevent tracking from China company, they are having heavy big data issues like Facebook and Google, also iOS callkit for native call la.

Still unsure how's it works on QQ account, I am still signed to China account agreement, unlike WeChat global, but they allowed using MY server for that.
For Xiaomi and Huawei, still using HK server for my China registered account, each time login will need to redirect me back to China, before success on login. hmm.gif

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So, how much traffic can be handled by CloudFlare Malaysia?
Why lot of servers just using SG CDN, not local CDN?

I still wonder why local CDN are not used at all, like CloudFlare or Aliyun(Lazada) or Tencent(Shopee), both at SG via Equinix, last time I tested on some global games that using CloudFlare for the api, when it is 5xx, it showing Johor CloudFlare to me, which is strange... hmm.gif

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post Dec 17 2021, 01:09 PM

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ok, cloudflare SG back to normal, they are exchanged via Telstra SG now, a bit slow, but 700kb/s. brows.gif laugh.gif

Equinix - still affected.

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post Dec 17 2021, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 17 2021, 01:00 PM)
Yes, one more testing from me.

Tencent - China Mobile(via Equinix SG) - affected

So it is just unlucky that today they switch me over to private IP, while Equinix burst on same time, so I can't know who is causing trouble... sweat.gif
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Ya, last year only used SG server, after Wechat becoming WeChat Global and WeChat HK with different law applied, then they can safety to implement the law on the Malaysia server, and enable MY server to Malaysia users.

But still, if need tech support, they will move it back to SG and HK server for processing and accessing.

So, one of the problem of CDN is law applied on data, a few China friends I know are switching over WeChat global to prevent tracking from China company, they are having heavy big data issues like Facebook and Google, also iOS callkit for native call la.

Still unsure how's it works on QQ account, I am still signed to China account agreement, unlike WeChat global, but they allowed using MY server for that.
For Xiaomi and Huawei, still using HK server for my China registered account, each time login will need to redirect me back to China, before success on login. hmm.gif

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So, how much traffic can be handled by CloudFlare Malaysia?
Why lot of servers just using SG CDN, not local CDN?

I still wonder why local CDN are not used at all, like CloudFlare or Aliyun(Lazada) or Tencent(Shopee), both at SG via Equinix, last time I tested on some global games that using CloudFlare for the api, when it is 5xx, it showing Johor CloudFlare to me, which is strange... hmm.gif
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as long connection over Equinix SG are affected.

Tencent MY PoPs still depend on HK/SG for China connectivity under their private infrastructure backbone for their own services.

local CDN like Cloudflare still depend on main infrastructure in SG for network routing to origin server.
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post Dec 17 2021, 01:17 PM

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Hi Guys, newbie here. I was having issues connecting to computers in SG and also downloading contents hosted on SG server. Is this caused by the Equinix SG issues?
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post Dec 17 2021, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Dec 17 2021, 01:13 PM)
as long connection over Equinix SG are affected.

Tencent MY PoPs still depend on HK/SG for China connectivity under their private infrastructure backbone for their own services.

local CDN like Cloudflare still depend on main infrastructure in SG for network routing to origin server.
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But still strange, as I know the traffic issues is because too many request for SG server, the CDN is designed to avoid this issues by having data cached on local CDN.
That's how it works in China, and yes it works for 90% users, some still having traffic transfer issues in between CDN and main server(the real backbone), based on their live stream many users complain about lag but solved when switch the video quality.

So if the data are cached on Malaysia/local CDN, it should greatly reducing the traffic required going to SG/oversea traffic.

It will be
1. Traffic to SG moved to Malaysia local
2. CDN request from Malaysia to SG server will be reduced, as it is cached by local CDN.

But it is becoming
1. Using MY CDN caused issues to Malaysia users.
2. But, moving CDN back to SG like Lazada and Shopee solved the issues
3. And increased chance of line break in between MY and SG.

Why??? doh.gif
Malaysia CDN total bandwidth is lower than SG link because of expensive money need to be paid to TM?
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Not enough hard disk/RAM for CDN caching in Malaysia? sweat.gif
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post Dec 17 2021, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(yong5161 @ Dec 17 2021, 01:17 PM)
Hi Guys, newbie here. I was having issues connecting to computers in SG and also downloading contents hosted on SG server. Is this caused by the Equinix SG issues?
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Yes, most request to SG and HK are going via Equinix SG, it is because in past PCCW break too, so they have moved to Equinix for balancing the traffic in between Equinix and PCCW.

But, they are putting too much on Equinix now, or having DDOS or Physical connection issues to Equinix like line broken, so it is affecting.

If your account are safe or nothing, or the stuff you are download don't need account, then try using some free VPN to redirect the traffic to solve the issues for temporary la. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 17 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 17 2021, 01:31 PM)
Yes, most request to SG and HK are going via Equinix SG, it is because in past PCCW break too, so they have moved to Equinix for balancing the traffic in between Equinix and PCCW.

But, they are putting too much on Equinix now, or having DDOS or Physical connection issues to Equinix like line broken, so it is affecting.

If your account are safe or nothing, or the stuff you are download don't need account, then try using some free VPN to redirect the traffic to solve the issues for temporary la. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I see. My work related stuff requires me to download Beta testing App from SG server, and also remote connects to PC in SG office. The downloading is the one giving problems as the download speed is extremely slow. The remote connect just need a little patience as it delays from my input. Do you have any ideas on how long this is gonna lasts? Will it be fixed soon?
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post Dec 17 2021, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(yong5161 @ Dec 17 2021, 01:53 PM)
I see. My work related stuff requires me to download Beta testing App from SG server, and also remote connects to PC in SG office. The downloading is the one giving problems as the download speed is extremely slow. The remote connect just need a little patience as it delays from my input. Do you have any ideas on how long this is gonna lasts? Will it be fixed soon?
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I wake up in 8 AM and found out this issues, and it is not gonna fix any sooner...
The worst is during last year WFH, it last like half of years... sweat.gif
(should be few months la, just the feeling)

So the answer is nobody know, only TM internal staff know.

If it is legit in SG law, find someone(that you can transfer normally without packet loss) hosted a private VPN for you to use, then by using his network as proxy, you can download full speed from SG server.

Else, hmm, ask someone in your company, did using public VPN is allowed.
If yes, then find a good VPN, trial first, if fine, then pay for a month first for getting a better traffic temporary la, they should not record down your files, except you are downloading via HTTP, in this case everyone can get it... tongue.gif

The best will be your company's ISP are not having issues to TM, so they open VPN server for you and you connect to their VPN, problem solved. laugh.gif

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CloudFlare - telstra are unable to handle huge traffic now, and start having heavy packet drop, ouch! sweat.gif

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 17 2021, 02:02 PM)
If it is legit in SG law, find someone(that you can transfer normally without packet loss) hosted a private VPN for you to use, then by using his network as proxy, you can download full speed from SG server.
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if i have my own VPS in Singapore, will it help if I set up my own private VPN node? (putting aside VPS's speed or its hoster restrictions, if any)
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post Dec 17 2021, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Dec 17 2021, 02:10 PM)
if i have my own VPS in Singapore, will it help if I set up my own private VPN node?  (putting aside VPS's speed or its hoster restrictions, if any)
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If you are having full speed/acceptable(like 30M) single thread download from your VPS now, yes, only some SG exchange are broken. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 17 2021, 02:02 PM)
I wake up in 8 AM and found out this issues, and it is not gonna fix any sooner...
The worst is during last year WFH, it last like half of years... sweat.gif
(should be few months la, just the feeling)

So the answer is nobody know, only TM internal staff know.

If it is legit in SG law, find someone(that you can transfer normally without packet loss) hosted a private VPN for you to use, then by using his network as proxy, you can download full speed from SG server.

Else, hmm, ask someone in your company, did using public VPN is allowed.
If yes, then find a good VPN, trial first, if fine, then pay for a month first for getting a better traffic temporary la, they should not record down your files, except you are downloading via HTTP, in this case everyone can get it... tongue.gif

The best will be your company's ISP are not having issues to TM, so they open VPN server for you and you connect to their VPN, problem solved. laugh.gif

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CloudFlare - telstra are unable to handle huge traffic now, and start having heavy packet drop, ouch! sweat.gif
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Thanks for explaining mate.

Few months is such a long time.

Will be troublesome to handle my work bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Dec 17 2021, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(yong5161 @ Dec 17 2021, 02:17 PM)
Thanks for explaining mate.

Few months is such a long time.

Will be troublesome to handle my work  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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That's why, remote work not suitable on Malaysia, too much traffic issues, even github can't full speed download... sweat.gif
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Just for CloudFlare, if you are not working on an unrooted smartphone(excluding those with pi-hole custom localhost DNS), redirect them to Malaysia CloudFlare server using hosts file.
For expert, just redirect based on hostname of the server IP address with firewall etc la. tongue.gif

For the IP address, tips, Lowyat.net. brows.gif

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 17 2021, 01:23 PM)
But still strange, as I know the traffic issues is because too many request for SG server, the CDN is designed to avoid this issues by having data cached on local CDN.
That's how it works in China, and yes it works for 90% users, some still having traffic transfer issues in between CDN and main server(the real backbone), based on their live stream many users complain about lag but solved when switch the video quality.

So if the data are cached on Malaysia/local CDN, it should greatly reducing the traffic required going to SG/oversea traffic.

It will be
1. Traffic to SG moved to Malaysia local
2. CDN request from Malaysia to SG server will be reduced, as it is cached by local CDN.

But it is becoming
1. Using MY CDN caused issues to Malaysia users.
2. But, moving CDN back to SG like Lazada and Shopee solved the issues
3. And increased chance of line break in between MY and SG.

Why??? doh.gif
Malaysia CDN total bandwidth is lower than SG link because of expensive money need to be paid to TM?
or
Not enough hard disk/RAM for CDN caching in Malaysia? sweat.gif
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my meaning is network routing for Cloudflare and not CDN matter.

you have to know that most of our internet traffic to international have to bypass from SG to anywhere. only NTT MY have a few circuit are from MY direct to HKG or JP and transit to anywhere. where the rest of upstream provider still have to go through SG to anywhere.

China work differently their CDN are based on province, each province they own server base and seldom they use anycast like Cloudflare or Fastly.

local CDN most of the server are on 1G to 10G compare to others country are using 100G or higher.

expensive is another matter, problem is TM could handle higher traffic over 100G or more ? this is the real issue.

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 17 2021, 02:12 PM)
If you are having full speed/acceptable(like 30M) single thread download from your VPS now, yes, only some SG exchange are broken. icon_rolleyes.gif
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awh.... speedtest.net via browser.

raw unifi island to seberang jaya gets 120/200.
raw unifi island to starhub gets 160/200
openvpn through contabo vps only get 50/70 to starhub.

i guess better not use vpn 😅



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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Dec 17 2021, 02:10 PM)
if i have my own VPS in Singapore, will it help if I set up my own private VPN node?  (putting aside VPS's speed or its hoster restrictions, if any)
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It will help but depends on the network between your unifi and the vps network.

For me, (147.158.X.X)
1.OVH
2.Leaseweb
can get 99% of very stable and low latency network between unifi and SG.

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QUOTE(go626201 @ Dec 17 2021, 04:47 PM)
It will help but depends on the network between your unifi and the vps network.

For me, (147.158.X.X)
1.OVH
2.Leaseweb
can get 99% of very stable and low latency network between unifi and SG.
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right above your post 😅
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Twitch and twitter problems? Youtube seems normal.
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Dec 17 2021, 04:50 PM)
right above your post  😅
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If i am not wrong,this should be Unifi IPv4 <> Leaseweb IPv4(IPv6) <> OVHSG IPv6

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It's bad really bad.
Last time ping to cloudflare only 5~6ms but now it's 29ms.
It take a long time to load facebook, shopee and etc.
PING got 30~40% loss packets. mad.gif bangwall.gif ranting.gif

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Dec 17 2021, 05:25 PM)
It's bad really bad.
Last time ping to cloudflare only 5~6ms but now it's 29ms.
It take a long time to load facebook, shopee and etc.
PING got 30~40% loss packets.  mad.gif  bangwall.gif  ranting.gif

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Lol, unifi users from Sabah:"sudah biasa, our ping in East Malaysia here never lower than West Malaysians."

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