QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 10 2023, 09:46 AM)
rebates is it the bonus? 4.0% - 3.9% ? The 0.1%?I don't know. Just asking.
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Mar 10 2023, 09:56 AM
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Mar 10 2023, 10:02 AM
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Mar 10 2023, 10:04 AM
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Mar 10 2023, 10:32 AM
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Feb only 28 days maybe thats why interest low a bit?
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Mar 10 2023, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(BladeRider @ Mar 10 2023, 09:56 AM) Yes the paid out is top up the shortfall of the base net return of 3.9% in Feb and any promo if it is running QUOTE(bokbokchai @ Mar 10 2023, 10:32 AM) Nothing to do with the days ๐คฆโโ๏ธ It is paid out for any shortfall from the promo rates In fact the lesser the days in a month the higher base net return |
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Mar 11 2023, 09:29 AM
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The promise return is 4% p.a. thus Feb 2023 actual return is 3.9% than the 0.1% will be topup as bonus to make it 4% as promised to you (investor)...
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Mar 20 2023, 07:54 PM
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Anyone ever calculated and verified that they give what they promised?
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Mar 21 2023, 10:14 AM
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Mar 21 2023, 11:09 AM
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Mar 21 2023, 11:12 AM
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Mar 21 2023, 12:02 PM
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Mar 21 2023, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Mar 21 2023, 11:09 AM) that is the best case scenarioQUOTE(BrookLes @ Mar 21 2023, 11:12 AM) challenging to track due to weekend/public holiday, fund price not being updatedrounding which may result in partial return being reflected in earlier or later NAV QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Mar 21 2023, 12:02 PM) NAV 1 Feb RM 1.1813, 4% for 28 days --> RM 0.0036increase in NAV yields RM 0.0018 while distribution contributes RM 0.0016 so the rebate should be the shortfall of RM 0.0002 (0.16%) per unit based on the number of unit as at 1 Feb (1 Feb balance / RM 1.1813) therefore, rebate = unit x shortfall per unit if the rebate credited s lower than the above, it is lower than 4%; vice versa |
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Mar 21 2023, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Mar 21 2023, 03:36 PM) that is the best case scenario A bit difficult to track also because of rounding to the nearest 0.01 hence might be shortfall from there challenging to track due to weekend/public holiday, fund price not being updated rounding which may result in partial return being reflected in earlier or later NAV NAV 1 Feb RM 1.1813, 4% for 28 days --> RM 0.0036 increase in NAV yields RM 0.0018 while distribution contributes RM 0.0016 so the rebate should be the shortfall of RM 0.0002 (0.16%) per unit based on the number of unit as at 1 Feb (1 Feb balance / RM 1.1813) therefore, rebate = unit x shortfall per unit if the rebate credited s lower than the above, it is lower than 4%; vice versa |
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Mar 22 2023, 04:31 PM
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I just emailed Versa via their website, they mentioned that 4% promo rate applies to first RM30k amount, if exceeds it follows the base rate as stated in the app, as below:
![]() (Can find this at the app when click at โsavingsโ): ![]() so means how also better than KDI Save which offers at 3.5% for similar product. Something to ponder upon. This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Mar 22 2023, 04:53 PM |
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Mar 22 2023, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 22 2023, 04:31 PM) Affin's financials so far doing well also: https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...rm13bil-in-fy22 Versa is using Affin Hwang's MMF fund product: https://versaapp.onelink.me/1bAf?c=&af_refe...=af_app_invites AHAM is no longer owned by Affin. Affin sold* its stakes in AHAM to CVC Capital last year. https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-by-cvc-capital * and this disposal also explains Affin record profits last year. Davidtcf liked this post
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Mar 22 2023, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 22 2023, 04:44 PM) Versa is using AHAM MMF. thanks.. I edited my post liao.AHAM is no longer owned by Affin. Affin sold* its stakes in AHAM to CVC Capital last year. https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-by-cvc-capital * and this disposal also explains Affin record profits last year. Hope CVC is stable in the long run.. ๐ need to catch up news on it since we using Versa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVC_Capital_Partners https://www.cvc.com/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CVC.AX/financials?p=CVC.AX This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Mar 22 2023, 04:57 PM |
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Mar 22 2023, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 22 2023, 04:54 PM) thanks.. I edited my post liao. Its Europe's largest Private Equity firm.Hope CVC is stable in the long run.. ๐ need to catch up news on it since we using Versa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVC_Capital_Partners https://www.cvc.com/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CVC.AX/financials?p=CVC.AX However, as a PE firm, I would expect that they would put Aham for IPO in the not too distant future. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Mar 22 2023, 05:30 PM Davidtcf liked this post
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Mar 22 2023, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(siawyent @ Mar 10 2023, 09:45 AM) Just got the rebate from Versa, but it was much lesser than previous month, the 4% not extended to 30/6/23? QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 10 2023, 09:46 AM) bottom line is your money in RMDoes it increase by 4% rate from one date to another date? eg you start at RM10000, If return really 4% , end of 90 days you should get interest RM10000 x4% x90/365 =RM98.63 Your money should become RM10098.63 . I just checked mine, i am satisfied Versa is paying me adequately, no less than 4%pa forget about pay out, bonus, rebates , price per unit, confusing people only, useless to look most important bottom line is your RM QUOTE(BrookLes @ Mar 20 2023, 07:54 PM) just checked, it is 4% or slightly more. see my calculation below My records are as follow Take starting date 28.11.22--->Versa showed my amount as RM25104.35 27.12.22 29D later , At 4% pa, expected to be RM25184.13, but actual amount is RM25179.94, dont know why this lower. 27.2.23 Another 62D later, expected to be RM25351.03 Actual amount is RM25363.92 5.3.23 Another 6D later, expected is RM25380.60 Actual is RM25383.22 ---------------------------------------- Now if take longer period to calculate, that should reduce the possibility of missing late bonus/payout/rebate so should be more accurate Take all in 97 DAYS period Start 28.11.22 as RM25104.35 with 4% pa for 97D, on 5.3.23 it should become RM25371.21 But actual amount on that day is RM25383.22 Conculsion -Versa tak tipu, memang ada 4% or more! Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Mar 29 2023, 11:37 AM
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Sorry for stupid question. What is that tax voucher for? it is tax exempted rite?
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Mar 29 2023, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(uglyduckling422 @ Mar 29 2023, 11:37 AM) Tax voucher is to show that is exempted for tax because of monthly paid out while paying associated fees MMF and FD are tax exempted unless stated otherwise This post has been edited by xander2k8: Mar 29 2023, 05:00 PM uglyduckling422 liked this post
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