if you like a traditional FAC.

Yes the KCR-60 is good for that mission.

It got a 28 knot top speed.

it got 2400 nautical mile range at 20 knots.

It got bofors 57mm gun.

it got anti ship missiles (rumored from MBDA for KCR-60 batch 3). Azriel might fill in for me on this.

So Hornet is not the only bird that dropped the Paveway LGB during Op Daulat...

Like I said at least the price is right...
$55 mio is aleeady a bargain considered all the weapon system installed ready to combat.

lol where u get these photos

Twitter

Yeah. It's most likely is a damen.

Personally, a better design then the fassmer that MMEA get.



Basically the same price as the Chinese LMS?

Why so i have a feeling we spend money for a fully equipped FAC but end up with just a gunboats again ?

The fassmer costs about 65 million ringgit, around 15 million dollars. Including the on board UAV.


Yes.

You could also say that we spend the same money for a big 1860 tonne OPV but end up with just a gunboat.

This post has been edited by alexz23: Sep 18 2021, 10:59 PM

That why with full platform AAW and ASW in, it is a good bargain. Our meko 100 is FFBNW. I think many understand. To me it is just bull shit in procurement. Either you buy a boat with missile or without missle. As simple as that. A corvette without missle defense, is a sitting duck

This post has been edited by jwst1313: Sep 18 2021, 11:00 PM

Yup the kedah kelas is actually meko 100 at 1860 tons and become a river gun boat

No ASW. that is additional and not included.

The they say its AAW capable just because the 57mm gun can shoot down missiles and aircraft in close in defence function.

I am talking about the 60 million dollar Tun fatimah class OPV, not the 300 million dollar Kedah class.

The chinese LMS 700 tons from boustead I think isva gun boat. Correct me if I am wrong.



This post has been edited by jwst1313: Sep 18 2021, 11:04 PM

Yes

everybody realise that fact.

Why it is a wasteful buy. And TLDM want to repeat with more wasteful buy for LMS Batch 2.

Tun fatimah already cost 60 million, wow

Tun Fatimah cost less than the LMS, while being as big as the Kedah class.

How much for a gunboat version of the Damen lookalikes FAC?

If it's anything like the fassmer, does that mean TNI is paying RM150 million just to fit in those ASW missiles?

What is expensive?

latest 57mm Bofors gun, same like our Gowind with the FCR control system so that it could function as CIWS is expensive.

It got Denmark CMS, radar - expensive also

rumors of anti-ship missile from MBDA, not chinese C-705 of the 4 earlier KCR-60. also expensive.

No anti submarine warfare (ASW) system paid for. But technically can be installed.


There are trade-offs that i choose to make my planned alexLMS cheap. You just cannot have your cake and eat it too.

This post has been edited by alexz23: Sep 18 2021, 11:33 PM

Irregardless of the missles cost as long as they get the ships ready for sea trial. As it involves indonesia, we over here could never get the whole story.

What is more important is the builder upon taking payment as billed get the vessel reasy as schedule without delays.

Cost over run do happen but not up to 40%. An additional 10% to 15% do occur

Why Malaysia do not involve TLDM and local buillders to cooperate with either South Koreans or Finnish or Dutch on such projects?

South Korean built good warships. They have good ship builders. Indonesia learn a lot from south Korea and Dutch. Or

If the vessel is good and suitable, why do not purchase from PT PAL Indonesia? 🤔🤔 instead the china LMS gum boat.

Or prefer pay 5x extra and buy from France ended kaput project?

This post has been edited by jwst1313: Sep 18 2021, 11:41 PM