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post Jul 18 2022, 06:29 PM

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My BT is always on. So whenever I turn on the car, HU auto connects to the phone. If I turn on the HU, it starts playing music from where it left off previously.
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QUOTE(ju69an @ Jul 18 2022, 06:29 PM)
My BT is always on. So whenever I turn on the car, HU auto connects to the phone. If I turn on the HU, it starts playing music from where it left off previously.
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I use iPhone, bluetooth always on also but doesn’t play automatically. Maybe something to do with my phone settings maybe?
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QUOTE(FrogBlob @ Jul 18 2022, 11:44 PM)
I use iPhone, bluetooth always on also but doesn’t play automatically. Maybe something to do with my phone settings maybe?
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It works on Apple Music. If you're using that as well then I guess it has to do with your phone settings. BTW try setting your phone's bluetooth connection (PERODUA) to CAR STEREO under 'Device Type' . Not sure if that will help but no harm trying.
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post Jul 22 2022, 11:29 AM

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Anyone here own both Ativa and Yaris/vios? Are they on par? Close to?
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QUOTE(fishmango @ Jul 22 2022, 11:29 AM)
Anyone here own both Ativa and Yaris/vios? Are they on par? Close to?
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I don't own them, but waiting for Ativa. I did test drive Ativa and Vios though. What kind of comparison are you looking for?

One is compact SUV and one is a sedan and hatchback car.

They are both quite different, and I think it boils down to 2 things,
1) Which one fits your purpose?
2) Which one your heart tells you to drive it?

Myself, I was driving a manual Myvi which was already 16 years old, I don't want to drive a manual anymore with the increasing jam 😂

Ativa is a fun car with decent boot space and relatively new tech P2 can offer. I like to try something new. It has a fresh and modern design to it that I really like.

Vios is a car that everyone know that it's built for durability, the 2nd hand value wouldn't drop much as compared to other cars. The interior is a bit too dark to my liking, and feels dated. I can imagine myself driving Vios but will stare and admire Ativa or newer cars on the road 😂

Or if you can wait, see what's the new Vios like when it launch/reveal in Thailand next month.
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post Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(fishmango @ Jul 22 2022, 11:29 AM)
Anyone here own both Ativa and Yaris/vios? Are they on par? Close to?
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Good question. My family has a 2nd Gen Vios and a 5th Gen City.

I drove and sat in the City on many more occasions than the Vios. But i assume both aren't really too far off. The most noticeable is that the Vios's electric power steering is alot heavier than the City.

But anyway, I've mentioned on this thread before that the Ativa is NO WAY NEAR.....NO WAY NEAR as comfortable than the 5th Gen Honda City.

Vibration damping, sound insulation, handling pot holes, driving position, you name it, everything still loses out to the City by a very very high margin.

Not being a Perodua hater, but this is just facts, I am an Ativa owner of 5 months.

The City is already 10 years old and still drives and ride like new, of course there has been some repairs needed. Compared to my brand new Ativa, within 1 month, the dashboard started rattling. And every now and then, I would hear odd mechanical sounds.

Of course, the only aspect where the City loses out to the Ativa is through electronic features. But even this, where the Ativa should hold advantage, a lot of those features fall flat on their face. I've mentioned before, the turbo engine doesn't vibrate as much on idle, but the vibration is more noticeable when driving, which all car reviewers failed to point out. The engine vibration is enough that it can result in dashboard rattling. The ACC is so harsh that as a cruise control lover, I never use the ACC at all. LKC also doesn't do much since its essentially a slightly more proactive version of the lane departure prevention feature minus the visual and audio warnings.

And don't even get me started on the silly in car head unit. Unless you're STILL running android 10 below, or you're extremely lucky, or you have an iphone, you're not going to be successful in mirroring your phone to the head unit.

The Ativa is the perfect car for the marketing and sales department. New DNGA platform, 33% more stiff, ACC, LKC, BSM, RTCA, LDW, LDP, ADB, turbo charged engine D-CVT, Llumar tinting, dash cam, premium bridgestone turanza tyres. A whole long list of marketable features. But when you assess the performance of EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL FEATURE that they promote, every single one of them falls flat to the ground face first.

1. New DNGA platform 33% more stiff: who cares if the ride quality is still poorer than a 2008 City and the plastics used for the interior cabin rattle like marbles in a box.
2. ACC/LKC: ACC is too harsh and almost not usable at all, LKC makes steering looser on high speeds when it should be tighter and heavier for control.
3. 1.0 Turbo Engine: still consumes more fuel vs the myvi engine, unnecessarily introduces a bunch of NVH imperfections into the cabin that was non-existent in lower end cars like myvi or bezza. Torque (not sure if peak) only comes in from 2.5k rpm, which is somewhat pointless since most Malaysians tend to accelerate at that rpm on naturally aspirated engines.
4. D-CVT can still feel like ordinary AT gear box on very low speeds. Every time you move from a standstill at low speeds, you will feel an upshift (yes I know CVT's don't do that but this one does). Because of that, when you're crawling in jams and you're gently stepping and letting off the gas pedal, the car will jerk.
5. Llumar tinting, you will still feel the sun and you will still sweat unless you turn the A/C up higher.
6. Bridgestone tyres: not common and cost 400 per tyre.

Point i'm making here, every feature on the car that was promoted, doesn't function properly at all to the point that the car is essentially a jack of all trades but literally a master at none.

The features are so half assed that it ends up making such a good looking car a half assed car.

In hindsight, if i knew the Ativa was going to rattle like hell, I would've gone straight to a J spec Yaris, which at that time, was selling under MYR 70k.

Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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post Jul 22 2022, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM)
Good question. My family has a 2nd Gen Vios and a 5th Gen City.

I drove and sat in the City on many more occasions than the Vios. But i assume both aren't really too far off. The most noticeable is that the Vios's electric power steering is alot heavier than the City.

But anyway, I've mentioned on this thread before that the Ativa is NO WAY NEAR.....NO WAY NEAR as comfortable than the 5th Gen Honda City.

Vibration damping, sound insulation, handling pot holes, driving position, you name it, everything still loses out to the City by a very very high margin.

Not being a Perodua hater, but this is just facts, I am an Ativa owner of 5 months.

The City is already 10 years old and still drives and ride like new, of course there has been some repairs needed. Compared to my brand new Ativa, within 1 month, the dashboard started rattling. And every now and then, I would hear odd mechanical sounds.

Of course, the only aspect where the City loses out to the Ativa is through electronic features. But even this, where the Ativa should hold advantage, a lot of those features fall flat on their face. I've mentioned before, the turbo engine doesn't vibrate as much on idle, but the vibration is more noticeable when driving, which all car reviewers failed to point out. The engine vibration is enough that it can result in dashboard rattling. The ACC is so harsh that as a cruise control lover, I never use the ACC at all. LKC also doesn't do much since its essentially a slightly more proactive version of the lane departure prevention feature minus the visual and audio warnings.

And don't even get me started on the silly in car head unit. Unless you're STILL running android 10 below, or you're extremely lucky, or you have an iphone, you're not going to be successful in mirroring your phone to the head unit.

The Ativa is the perfect car for the marketing and sales department. New DNGA platform, 33% more stiff, ACC, LKC, BSM, RTCA, LDW, LDP, ADB, turbo charged engine D-CVT, Llumar tinting, dash cam, premium bridgestone turanza tyres. A whole long list of marketable features. But when you assess the performance of EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL FEATURE that they promote, every single one of them falls flat to the ground face first.

1. New DNGA platform 33% more stiff: who cares if the ride quality is still poorer than a 2008 City and the plastics used for the interior cabin rattle like marbles in a box.
2. ACC/LKC: ACC is too harsh and almost not usable at all, LKC makes steering looser on high speeds when it should be tighter and heavier for control.
3. 1.0 Turbo Engine: still consumes more fuel vs the myvi engine, unnecessarily introduces a bunch of NVH imperfections into the cabin that is non-existent in lower end cars like myvi or bezza. Torque (not sure if peak) only comes in from 2.5k rpm, which is somewhat pointless since most drivers tend to accelerate at that rpm with naturally aspirated engines.
4. D-CVT can still feel like ordinary AT gear box on very low speeds. Every time you move from a standstill at low speeds, you will feel an upshift (yes I know CVT's don't do that but this one does). Because of that, when you're crawling in jams and you're gently stepping and letting off the gas pedal, the car will jerk. 110km/hr cruise is still relatively high for CVT at 2.5k rpm. (Note, speedo on the Ativa is overestimated by 5km/hr to prevent speeding fines, so true 110km/hr will result in 2.7k rpm). When driving economically, the gearbox likes to remain at RPMs lower than 1.8k, this is where majority of the engine vibration is felt while driving.
5. Llumar tinting, you will still feel the sun and you will still sweat unless you turn the A/C up higher.
6. Bridgestone tyres: 205mm width is not common and cost 400 per tyre.

Point i'm making here, every feature on the car that was promoted, doesn't function properly at all to the point that the car is essentially a jack of all trades but literally a master at none.

The features are so half assed that it ends up making such a good looking car a half assed car.

In hindsight, if i knew the Ativa was going to rattle like hell, I would've gone straight to a J spec Yaris, which at that time, was selling under MYR 70k.

Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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QUOTE(ed209 @ Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM)
Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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I agree with a lot of the things you said, one year owner here. Still pretty bad NVH, and for some reason quite bad QC for this car.
All the features they tout aren’t really anything to write home about, the biggest disappointment being the head unit (but Perodua has aways been weak in this department), and flimsy body.
A lot of the problems you have mentioned can be fixed with a facelift (or at least I hope, mitigated).
Despite all this, I wouldn’t call it a bad car, it’s mind-blowingly average. I would call it good looking if not for the botchjob by the designers on the front end and the bodykit.
In hindsight, this would be a good car if bought used, few years down the line.
The new Alza is taking a small step towards the right direction imo, it doesn’t look overdesigned by our local designers, and finally a competent head unit (albeit only available on the top spec), and competent pricing.
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post Jul 22 2022, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM)
Good question. My family has a 2nd Gen Vios and a 5th Gen City.

I drove and sat in the City on many more occasions than the Vios. But i assume both aren't really too far off. The most noticeable is that the Vios's electric power steering is alot heavier than the City.

But anyway, I've mentioned on this thread before that the Ativa is NO WAY NEAR.....NO WAY NEAR as comfortable than the 5th Gen Honda City.

Vibration damping, sound insulation, handling pot holes, driving position, you name it, everything still loses out to the City by a very very high margin.

Not being a Perodua hater, but this is just facts, I am an Ativa owner of 5 months.

The City is already 10 years old and still drives and ride like new, of course there has been some repairs needed. Compared to my brand new Ativa, within 1 month, the dashboard started rattling. And every now and then, I would hear odd mechanical sounds.

Of course, the only aspect where the City loses out to the Ativa is through electronic features. But even this, where the Ativa should hold advantage, a lot of those features fall flat on their face. I've mentioned before, the turbo engine doesn't vibrate as much on idle, but the vibration is more noticeable when driving, which all car reviewers failed to point out. The engine vibration is enough that it can result in dashboard rattling. The ACC is so harsh that as a cruise control lover, I never use the ACC at all. LKC also doesn't do much since its essentially a slightly more proactive version of the lane departure prevention feature minus the visual and audio warnings.

And don't even get me started on the silly in car head unit. Unless you're STILL running android 10 below, or you're extremely lucky, or you have an iphone, you're not going to be successful in mirroring your phone to the head unit.

The Ativa is the perfect car for the marketing and sales department. New DNGA platform, 33% more stiff, ACC, LKC, BSM, RTCA, LDW, LDP, ADB, turbo charged engine D-CVT, Llumar tinting, dash cam, premium bridgestone turanza tyres. A whole long list of marketable features. But when you assess the performance of EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL FEATURE that they promote, every single one of them falls flat to the ground face first.

1. New DNGA platform 33% more stiff: who cares if the ride quality is still poorer than a 2008 City and the plastics used for the interior cabin rattle like marbles in a box.
2. ACC/LKC: ACC is too harsh and almost not usable at all, LKC makes steering looser on high speeds when it should be tighter and heavier for control.
3. 1.0 Turbo Engine: still consumes more fuel vs the myvi engine, unnecessarily introduces a bunch of NVH imperfections into the cabin that was non-existent in lower end cars like myvi or bezza. Torque (not sure if peak) only comes in from 2.5k rpm, which is somewhat pointless since most Malaysians tend to accelerate at that rpm on naturally aspirated engines.
4. D-CVT can still feel like ordinary AT gear box on very low speeds. Every time you move from a standstill at low speeds, you will feel an upshift (yes I know CVT's don't do that but this one does). Because of that, when you're crawling in jams and you're gently stepping and letting off the gas pedal, the car will jerk.
5. Llumar tinting, you will still feel the sun and you will still sweat unless you turn the A/C up higher.
6. Bridgestone tyres: not common and cost 400 per tyre.

Point i'm making here, every feature on the car that was promoted, doesn't function properly at all to the point that the car is essentially a jack of all trades but literally a master at none.

The features are so half assed that it ends up making such a good looking car a half assed car.

In hindsight, if i knew the Ativa was going to rattle like hell, I would've gone straight to a J spec Yaris, which at that time, was selling under MYR 70k.

Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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Thks for the explanation. I got ur points: A proper B seg better anytime. Thks again

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post Jul 22 2022, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Jul 22 2022, 03:08 PM)
I don't own them, but waiting for Ativa. I did test drive Ativa and Vios though. What kind of comparison are you looking for?

One is compact SUV and one is a sedan and hatchback car.

They are both quite different, and I think it boils down to 2 things,
1) Which one fits your purpose?
2) Which one your heart tells you to drive it?

Myself, I was driving a manual Myvi which was already 16 years old, I don't want to drive a manual anymore with the increasing jam 😂

Ativa is a fun car with decent boot space and relatively new tech P2 can offer. I like to try something new. It has a fresh and modern design to it that I really like.

Vios is a car that everyone know that it's built for durability, the 2nd hand value wouldn't drop much as compared to other cars. The interior is a bit too dark to my liking, and feels dated. I can imagine myself driving Vios but will stare and admire Ativa or newer cars on the road 😂

Or if you can wait, see what's the new Vios like when it launch/reveal in Thailand next month.
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Thks. I not into electronic gadget. Just want something able to give a fine driving experience. Will wait for next Vios/Yaris.

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM)

5. Llumar tinting, you will still feel the sun and you will still sweat unless you turn the A/C up higher.

Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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put superlon on aircond pipe. quite effective
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 23 2022, 09:00 AM)
put superlon on aircond pipe. quite effective
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what's a superlon

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QUOTE(xXjinXx @ Jul 25 2022, 12:12 AM)
what's a superlon
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aircond insulation. find laa yt got
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QUOTE(sidefulnes @ Jun 16 2022, 10:05 AM)
Not really burning oil smell, more like burning rubber
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Just an update after talking to SC

Service informed that the R&D dept is aware of this issue and said that the smell is coming from the heated plastic parts within the engine.
The smell will naturally go away after 10k mileage. sweat.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sidefulnes @ Jul 26 2022, 11:00 AM)
Just an update after talking to SC

Service informed that the R&D dept is aware of this issue and said that the smell is coming from the heated plastic parts within the engine.
The smell will naturally go away after 10k mileage.  sweat.gif  hmm.gif
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After 10k mileage the plastic melt finish d, that's why no more smell 😂

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any salesmen?

how do i enroll on the hybrid subscription?
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QUOTE(claudetan @ Aug 3 2022, 05:02 PM)
any salesmen?

how do i enroll on the hybrid subscription?
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I also want to know this
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I vouch some of it.. Bought the car for the waifu..

initially she like it but after year of usage (1 year owner), she began to question, why didn't we go for X50...hahahaha

Ativa generally is a great City car no doubt but there a few cons which perodua actually take note.

1. the headunit, paid same price as new alza but getting a flimsy IHU... if only they initiate a buy back program whereby AV owner (Aruz & Ativa) can replace their IHU with Alza
2. The engine is underpower but don't know how other owner can say it smooth.. i drove up genting few times and i can hear the engine & gearbox suffering to climb while maintaining 100kmh. For City driving, 1.0T is adequate for day to day drive plus straight highway (North-south).
3. interior space bit lacking for me.
4. I strongly agree on the ACC, it is on the rough side and clunky to operate compared to Proton X70/50 but i assume because it is the Camera operated version where proton is camera & radar operated.
5. Fuel consumption is better than proton but from experience, max I able to obtain was 500km (slow drive and discipline pedal operation), daily drive range 400km. From here, I think myvi still better rclxub.gif

Already install Ultra Racing stage 1 and somewhat improve the R&H especially during corner.. bit more confident to throw around in corner thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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any idea how is the comparison of boot space of ativa compare to 2009 myvi 1.3 SE manual ?
some YT video owners install "bar" to reduce body roll, is it necessary after purchase?

planning to trade in the old myvi for ativa H

need advise

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Aug 8 2022, 11:07 AM)
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I vouch some of it.. Bought the car for the waifu..

initially she like it but after year of usage (1 year owner), she began to question, why didn't we go for X50...hahahaha

Ativa generally is a great City car no doubt but there a few cons which perodua actually take note.

1. the headunit, paid same price as new alza but getting a flimsy IHU... if only they initiate a buy back program whereby AV owner (Aruz & Ativa) can replace their IHU with Alza
2. The engine is underpower but don't know how other owner can say it smooth.. i drove up genting few times and i can hear the engine & gearbox suffering to climb while maintaining 100kmh. For City driving, 1.0T is adequate for day to day drive plus straight highway (North-south).
3. interior space bit lacking for me.
4. I strongly agree on the ACC, it is on the rough side and clunky to operate compared to Proton X70/50 but i assume because it is the Camera operated version where proton is camera & radar operated.
5. Fuel consumption is better than proton but from experience, max I able to obtain was 500km (slow drive and discipline pedal operation), daily drive range 400km. From here, I think myvi still better  rclxub.gif

Already install Ultra Racing stage 1 and somewhat improve the R&H especially during corner.. bit more confident to throw around in corner  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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