Hi, I'm a new Ativa owner here. Just got my car during CNY eve and logged my 1st 1000km last week.

May i ask around, is anyone already experiencing rattling sounds in the cabin? I keep hearing a buzzing rattling sound when i travel over rough patches of road.

By rough i mean road surfaces that is very grainy. The sort you'd look at and notice the individual stones on the road.

It appears to originate from the driver door but somewhere lower down the door. It sounds like a speaker rattle but I'm not sure.

I saw a post somewhere that some wires in the doors are prone to rattling.

I'd be sad if im alone in this.

are those the areas which you have identified and requested SC to fix?

abit bummed out that such a new car and already got this sound. on the bright side its just lose wiring and not lose panels or parts.

have you experienced any oddities with your car? so far twice, ive experiened no power at all when cold start and then driving up a parking ramp immediately. i informed SC on my 1st 1000km inspection, and they found no problems. i assumed that the engine needed some time to warm up, so now i usually jsut wait for the rpms to drop from 2k to 1k which doesnt take long, but still, modern cars in tropical climates really shouldnt need engine warm ups, very odd.

What about vibrations over rough roads? were you previously experiencing rattling noises in the cabin as you drive over grainy patches of road?

is this still an issue for you? i suspect only android phones up until android 10 will work with smartlink. anything more up to date can never be connected.

currently using OP 8T and it will constantly disconnect and reconnect every second, but when i tried my OP 3T, worked fucken flawlessly, so sad.

honestly quite surprised that not many ppl are complaining about smart link in this group.

This post has been edited by ed209: Feb 28 2022, 01:47 PM

A hybrid priced between H & AV spec?

Extremely unlikely only if Perodua intends to electrify the H spec and leave the rest of the features found in AV out.

Obviously MOST engines produce some form of vibration but whether the vibration actually gets transmitted into the cabin is an entirely different thing.

Also, not all vibrations are the same, some are barely noticeable, some are tolerable and some aren't.

My previous car was an old c-class W203.

I've only taken the ativa up to 110-120. At those speeds, the car is much more planted than my old C.

There are both road noise and wind noise.

Engine RPM at 110 is at 2.5k rpm, and engine noise is acceptable. But at 120 at 3k rpm, i do find that it becomes noticeably louder.

Using LKC feature, is honestly abit of a let down. Not because of high expectations that the car should be autonomous in centering the lane, but the steering for some very odd reason, loosens up a tad bit that it makes centering the car with your own hands, noticeably more difficult than without LKC.

What i mean is that, at high speeds and without LKC, the steering tightens up, but when LKC is turned on, the magnets controlling the tightening loosens up that it now creates small but very noticeable "play" and "give" in the steering that prevents gradual inputs to the steering.

What essentially happens is unnecessary or unintended steering to the left or right. So manually centering the car in your lane becomes abit of a chore. You end up with more mini left and right, basically more work from your hands to keep it centered.

Yea my W203 is really old, it was a used car when my parents bought it back in '06. Drove that thing all the way until 2022.

I replaced the shock absorbers, most likely OEM, so i'm not sure if that resulted in a more softer hence less planted highway cruising experience.

The W203 is significantly softer on my bum when it comes to pot holes and uneven road compared to the Ativa.

This post has been edited by ed209: Mar 3 2022, 04:54 PM

I think there was someone who asked if it was noticeable when the CVT transmission switches between planetary gear and belt mode and the answer to that is actually yes.

After driving the car for a few days I could tell that 1st gear is always planetary gear mode, once you hit the required RPM for the transmission to shift up, its belt mode from then on.

I guess that's Daihatsu's solution to solve CVT's rubberbanding and whining issues. But the downside is, you can really tell when you're in planetary gear mode because you'd feel the usual sensation of both engine braking and shift shock. So if you're stuck in traffic, the car will behave like your usual AT car.

But whats quirkier with the D-CVT transmission is, i find it slightly difficult to perform 2k rpm accelerations in CVT mode. The car feels programmed in a way where it has strong preference to remain below 2k rpm or above 2k rpm. It almost feels like driving, what i would assume, a car in Eco mode, where power requires alot more depression in the pedal. Perhaps the car is setup in this manner, a "default always on" Eco mode and hence the power button. But i'd like it if the car would make it easier for me to catch 2k rpm.

And if the above description is a description of the D-CVT's quirkiness, let me tell you what i actually dislike when the D-CVT is paired with the 3 cylinder engine. Vibrations. And i dont mean vibrations at idle. The Ativa's vibration at idle is really no biggie at all. It tends to vibrate more on Drive, but when you put it into Neutral, it vibrates alot lesser. I find it extremely tolerable. What i cannot tolerate is engine vibration when the car is on the go (honestly very surprised that ZERO reviewers mentioned this). As mentioned above, the car LOVES to stay below 2k rpm. And unfortunately, this is where the vibration only occurs. The vibration isn't atrocious, but you CAN hear it, I would describe it as a higher frequency but low amplitude rumble. I dont have much experience in driving 3 cylinders, but if anyone drove the VW Beetle A5, then you'd know what i mean (although Beetle A5 isnt 3 cylinders). I find this rumble extremely strange, the car is not shaking, its just quietly rumbling, and it rumbles enough to cause cabin rattle noises when the road becomes rougher (i mean in road grain not pot holes).

Power wise, really nothing to complain, I dont expect my car to accelerate like a Civic, but that power button is quite addictive. Since the throttle is setup in a way that requires more push to the pedal to accelerate, its fun to just hit the power button and do a 3k rpm acceleration. Getting up to 80km/hr is a breeze. At 3k rpm, the engine isnt very loud.

Suspension, ride handling, NVH wise. The Ativa is miles behind compared to an HRV or the x50, definitely a jump forward against the myvi, but unfortunately, i cannot say that its on par with current gen City, Vios, Yaris and Almera. The new sedan B segments handle pot holes and rough roads far better than the Ativa. The Ativa is stiff, but im sure there's more to a suspension and ride handling set up to just being "stiff". I'm not a car engineer but I would say the Ativa's suspension set up isnt anymore sophisticated than my old W203. Both cars I would never send it through rough roads like a HRV without even slowing down, well the W203 maybe more since its much softer, but both Ativa and W203 isnt set up like the HRV. Its not conquering any rough roads for sure. I would say the Ativa feels in between the 5th and 6th gen honda city but leaning more towards the 5th gen. The Ativa can definitely do with some vibration damping pads because over very grainy roads, you can feel it, and on very specific parking ramps with those big gaps in the road, it creates a very loud resonance in the cabin that gives me a slight headache.

Overall, all the oddities and downside that I've described with the car, I still find them tolerable. But what i cannot tolerate is cabin rattling. My car is not even 2 months old and its already rattling and !@#$ its annoying. If i can solve my cabin rattling noises, i'd gladly say im happy with the car.

Oh then im not sure la, but when I drive the car, moving from a stand still, the car really does behave like its on planetary gear because of the sensation from upshifting and engine braking.

It's strange though, considering that Perodua chose to stiffen the car up specifically for the Malaysian market.

I just came back from dinner in pudu, and boy oh boy, those kl roads were rough on the Ativa. I foresee myself installing some vibration damping and sound insulating mats.

Would love to know this as well.

I would say ativa for sure. There's a significant step up between myvi and ativa. But i would recommend going for the H or X spec. The execution of the ACC and LKC in the AV spec isn't great and I doubt the additional 2 speakers you're getting in the AV spec provides an improvement in audio quality. Can't remember what other features are found in the AV that's not available in H. Maybe H doesn't come with built in DVR.

Oh right, that's unfortunate. I find BSM to be really really useful.

I have experienced power loss on cold start before. 3 times since collecting my car on CNY new year eve.

Because I live in an apartment, I would have to drive up a parking ramp almost immediately upon moving.

Twice, on separate occasion the car struggled to climb up the ramp. Giving it more gas actually resulted in heavy engine vibration that shook the interior of the cabin.

I literally had to go back down the ramp, wait for about 10 seconds to climb the ramp again.

Eversince then I waited for the engine to warm up. If you notice, upon cold start, your engine rpm starts at 2k rpm, which is really high. These days I would wait for the rpm needle to drop to slightly below 2k before driving the car. However I experienced a 3rd time of power loss but not as severe as the first two incident, but enough to notice some power lag and engine vibration.

Informed SC on my first 1k inspection and they just told me that they couldn't find any faults in the computer. Guess I'll have to drive my car until something breaks.

Also, I'm someone who does not believe in engine warm up, but I'm not ready to wreck my new car either.

I would say they are alright. Nothing special, gets the job done of stopping the car.

But yes, the brakes require that you step further on them before it starts biting.

At this point I can only assume that its just a matter of a different setup compared to other car manufacturers, unless someone does a brake test comparison.

So its just something to get used to.

I think whats potentially annoying are the positioning of the pedals.

Most cars, the throttle pedal is almost to the furthest right in the foot well, but the Ativa positions it more to the left that it nearly becomes center and the brake pedal is slightly on the left side.

Futhermore, the pedals have a very soft angle, compared to my w203, the throttle pedal is almost vertical, allowing you to rest your foot on your heel. A soft angle pedal forces me to activate my feet muscles instead in order to keep the angle of my foot relative to the pedal and it requires further muscle activation when i need to lift off.

Most likely something i need to get used to which i gradually am, but the first 2-3 weeks of driving the car was really tiring on my right foot.

One last note about the location of the throttle pedals, its so strangely close to the center that sometimes when braking, i realise my slippers are really close to the throttle pedal that its touching it.

Edit: apparently dont know my left from my right.

This post has been edited by ed209: Mar 16 2022, 11:22 PM

actual size is 7.5

but i think my slippers are 8

i see, since the ativa is identical to the g3 in weight, shouldnt be an issue then.

btw, have you test driven an ativa before?

does the ativa not have mudflaps?

curious to know why anyone would consider either having it on or off

And how do you find it?

Yea I think footwell is very shallow, other cars, your legs tend to be extended further deeper inside, letting you almost stretch it out with your feet rested on your heels.

Telescopic steering wheel, not in the next 5 years atleast hahaha. How tall are you btw.

Did you find your knees touching the base of the steering as well?

In hindsight, I think I would've gone with the low spec Yaris or the low spec city. The vibration from the engine and the rattling really annoy the hell out of me. This morning when parking my car at a carpool mate's house, I gently mounted a curb that was only 3-4cm high but on an incline, and the engine shook like crazy, rattling the dashboard, just to get over that tiny curb.

This post has been edited by ed209: Mar 22 2022, 01:58 PM