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post Jan 4 2024, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(justapawn @ Jan 4 2024, 10:27 AM)
How long you have been using Bumble???
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Less than a year. I think 6 months? Buts lots of trans, foreigners, malays, Indians, fat people. Maybe cause I am using free version.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 4 2024, 10:05 AM)
I think will try pay for bumble and see cause lifetime license and around rm250+. Cheap Vs cmb
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that still may not prevent users from getting banned
recently i used telegram to spam messages and i got restricted
and it says subscribe to reduce the duration of getting restricted
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QUOTE(justapawn @ Jan 4 2024, 09:32 AM)
I think they are still similar also. I mean Tinder and Bumble....
I got some matches but most are silent. I guess those silent profiles don't subscribe. For these girls, they could just be there to kill time, not serious at all....
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I met some of the most freakiest girls on bumble
-a punjabi Indian junior who same college with me
-a free hair malay who had two 3somes with her french boyfriend, hooked up with different guys in a week
-a chinese pinay who's DTF in less than 3 sentences the moment she jumped in my car

etc
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post Jan 4 2024, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 4 2024, 10:51 AM)
I met some of the most freakiest girls on bumble
-a punjabi Indian junior who same college with me
-a free hair malay who had two 3somes with her french boyfriend, hooked up with different guys in a week
-a chinese pinay who's DTF in less than 3 sentences the moment she jumped in my car

etc
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Yeah, really no different from Tinder....
Yesterday chat with a Trans in the app. As an extra conservative guy, I was a bit disappointed with all the matches....

This post has been edited by justapawn: Jan 4 2024, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(justapawn @ Jan 4 2024, 11:45 AM)
Yeah, really no different from Tinder....
Yesterday chat with a Trans in the app. As an extra conservative guy, I was a bit disappointed with all the matches....
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That's why I think need to pay. Why you go talk with trans. Lol. I skipped all the trans, malay, Indian, foreigner.
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post Jan 4 2024, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 4 2024, 12:30 PM)
That's why I think need to pay. Why you go talk with trans. Lol. I skipped all the trans, malay, Indian, foreigner.
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lol....I will just talk to anyone who swipe right on me. Sometimes we can learn from each other even though we don't vibe.
And yeah, conversation without emotional attachment to protect myself.....
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QUOTE(justapawn @ Jan 4 2024, 02:48 PM)
lol....I will just talk to anyone who swipe right on me. Sometimes we can learn from each other even though we don't vibe.
And yeah, conversation without emotional attachment to protect myself.....
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I don't waste my time unless person got good profile.
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post Jan 6 2024, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 4 2024, 06:55 PM)
I don't waste my time unless person got good profile.
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Well, it doesn't really waste my time as I rarely match with people.
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had few matches in Bumble, however some did not initiate the chat first, and match expired after 24 hours
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post Jan 9 2024, 09:34 PM

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I'm a lady I think I also want to use Bumble now, let me install it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Jan 9 2024, 07:09 PM)
had few matches in Bumble, however some did not initiate the chat first, and match expired after 24 hours
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yes, a lot of times extend the period also useless
If the girl keen on you, she will reply you almost immediately
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 9 2024, 10:40 PM)
yes, a lot of times extend the period also useless
If the girl keen on you, she will reply you almost immediately
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Some could accidentally swipe right.

So they let the match expire
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QUOTE(moon88 @ Jan 9 2024, 09:34 PM)
I'm a lady I think I also want to use Bumble now, let me install it. smile.gif
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Yes, can try

I read somewhere bumble founder is a female, so the apps is female-centric style to let lady to initiate the chat first.
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post Jan 10 2024, 10:04 PM

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After swiping CMB & Bumble everyday for 1year+ (both premium) since Oct 2022, here are some personal stats:

Me 35yo/Male/KL
Total physical dates (meet ups) around 30 (20% from Bumble and 80% from CMB)

CMB
CMB Settings: preferred location within 40km, most of the time ages 27 to 32, with the exception that they were never married, not Hindu & not Hispanic.

CMB total 260 chats to date over a period of 430days = 0.6chats/day = 1 new chat every 2 days

CMB Cost:
Premium subscription for CMB (went with 6monthly plan) = roughly around RM1100 for 1 year

Saverpack 3000 beans for RM92.50 (roughly gives you total 8 extra swipes for hinting girls outside their search criteria, unless you do it during Thursday happy hour, where bean cost per swipe is less)
Purchased the saverpack beans probably 3 times = total RM280

Estimated Total expenditure for CMB (premium subscription + Beans) to date = RM1400.

CMB Value vs Performance:
RM1400 for 25 meet-ups = RM56 per meet-up (rough figure)




BUMBLE
Bumble Settings: no specific preferences for all girls aged 26 to 32 (increased the age range since it has always been unlimited swipes)
Bumble total 150 chats over a period of 430 days = 0.3chats per day = 1 new chat every 3 to 4 days
Purchased Bumble Superswipes a few times. During 2022, Bumble Superswipes were expensive (5 Superswipes for RM 30). But since March 2023, they became cheaper (30 Superswipes for RM 45). Even now, the lifetime app service subscription is only a one-time-off payment of RM250.

Sadly, I had been blindly paying the monthly Bumble subscription without being aware of the lifetime option.
Total expenditure for Bumble (subscription + SuperSwipes) = RM2000
(RM1570 for subscription and RM430 for SuperSwipes)

Bumble Value vs Performance:
RM2000 for 5 Bumble meet-ups = RM400 per Bumble meet-up

* Even if i had been a premium Bumble subscriber from the very beginning (ie. RM250 premium sub + RM430 for all the SuperSwipes = total RM680), the performance is still poor (ie. RM680 for 5 Bumble meet-ups = RM136 per Bumble meet-up)

Do note that I used the same set of pics (the best ones) for both CMB and Bumble.




Total Dating Expenditure for 2023:
Each meet-up estimated around RM100 (say 2 cocktails + share 1 or 2 plates)

So, 30 dates x RM100 = total RM3000 (but definitely more than that because there were a few second dates with the same girl)

The most expensive date was a 2-day staycation, burnt a hole in my wallet about RM1000 (golddigger girl from Bumble with average looks, job crisis and badly managed finances. Even my stuffs end up becoming her prop for Insta pics.)

Total dating expenses (app/meetups) = RM7400
If to include the Misc stuffs like movies/billiards/and second time dates, i think around RM8000+


App Review:
Bumble has overall degraded over the year, that they had to lower their cost for purchasable swipes.
Even verified profiles are suspicious, the pics do not seem native for the stated/spoken language.
The superswipes are a waste of money (yielded a chat response of maybe less than5% whom i didn't even get to meet).
However, the interface is a lot better than CMB (bigger pictures and less laggy).

CMB still the best app in 2024. It's even better after the recent changes: unlimited suggestions.
It feels pleasant especially for guys to receive flowers from girls now (a better indication that they are interested)
Average looking girls (average face appearance with decent profiles) still get a lot of likes per day from guys (as long as they dressed to reveal a little more than the norm - confidently expressed.)

Other things that i have observed:
Girl pics without body shots are likely to weigh heavier
Faces with symmetry problem (example one eye higher than the other) tend to take pics which are tilted/rotated/distanced.
Body pics showing deco/neck/sideview to show breast/butt outlines are good enough to generate many likes without a face pic.
Interested girls will ask you out and follow up with conversations/whatsapp (reciprocal) etc.
Splitting the bill on the second date is bad - very often the end of the encounter.
You'll remember the girls you met because either they were attractive or they pissed you off.

Overall, for me meeting pretty girls via dating apps is very hard, not to say a total failure but the money could be put to better use.

Any guys here with 30-50 active chats on CMB at any one time maybe can share some tips, or any success stories. How about speed dating? Anyone been to one with many girls?
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post Jan 10 2024, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(magicforumer @ Jan 10 2024, 10:04 PM)
After swiping CMB & Bumble everyday for 1year+ (both premium) since Oct 2022, here are some personal stats:

Me 35yo/Male/KL
Total physical dates (meet ups) around 30 (20% from Bumble and 80% from CMB)

CMB
CMB Settings: preferred location within 40km, most of the time ages 27 to 32, with the exception that they were never married, not Hindu & not Hispanic.

CMB total 260 chats to date over a period of 430days = 0.6chats/day = 1 new chat every 2 days

CMB Cost:
Premium subscription for CMB (went with 6monthly plan) = roughly around RM1100 for 1 year

Saverpack 3000 beans for RM92.50 (roughly gives you total 8 extra swipes for hinting girls outside their search criteria, unless you do it during Thursday happy hour, where bean cost per swipe is less)
Purchased the saverpack beans probably 3 times = total RM280

Estimated Total expenditure for CMB (premium subscription + Beans) to date = RM1400.

CMB Value vs Performance:
RM1400 for 25 meet-ups = RM56 per meet-up (rough figure)
BUMBLE
Bumble Settings: no specific preferences for all girls aged 26 to 32 (increased the age range since it has always been unlimited swipes)
Bumble total 150 chats over a period of 430 days = 0.3chats per day = 1 new chat every 3 to 4 days
Purchased Bumble Superswipes a few times. During 2022, Bumble Superswipes were expensive (5 Superswipes for RM 30). But since March 2023, they became cheaper (30 Superswipes for RM 45). Even now, the lifetime app service subscription is only a one-time-off payment of RM250.

Sadly, I had been blindly paying the monthly Bumble subscription without being aware of the lifetime option.
Total expenditure for Bumble (subscription + SuperSwipes) = RM2000
(RM1570 for subscription and RM430 for SuperSwipes)

Bumble Value vs Performance:
RM2000 for 5 Bumble meet-ups = RM400 per Bumble meet-up

* Even if i had been a premium Bumble subscriber from the very beginning (ie. RM250 premium sub + RM430 for all the SuperSwipes = total RM680), the performance is still poor (ie. RM680 for 5 Bumble meet-ups = RM136 per Bumble meet-up)

Do note that I used the same set of pics (the best ones) for both CMB and Bumble.
Total Dating Expenditure for 2023:
Each meet-up estimated around RM100 (say 2 cocktails + share 1 or 2 plates)

So, 30 dates x RM100 = total RM3000 (but definitely more than that because there were a few second dates with the same girl)

The most expensive date was a 2-day staycation, burnt a hole in my wallet about RM1000 (golddigger girl from Bumble with average looks, job crisis and badly managed finances. Even my stuffs end up becoming her prop for Insta pics.)

Total dating expenses (app/meetups) = RM7400
If to include the Misc stuffs like movies/billiards/and second time dates, i think around RM8000+
App Review:
Bumble has overall degraded over the year, that they had to lower their cost for purchasable swipes.
Even verified profiles are suspicious, the pics do not seem native for the stated/spoken language.
The superswipes are a waste of money (yielded a chat response of maybe less than5% whom i didn't even get to meet).
However, the interface is a lot better than CMB (bigger pictures and less laggy).

CMB still the best app in 2024. It's even better after the recent changes: unlimited suggestions.
It feels pleasant especially for guys to receive flowers from girls now (a better indication that they are interested)
Average looking  girls (average face appearance with decent profiles) still get a lot of likes per day from guys (as long as they dressed to reveal a little more than the norm - confidently expressed.)

Other things that i have observed:
Girl pics without body shots are likely to weigh heavier
Faces with symmetry problem (example one eye higher than the other) tend to take pics which are tilted/rotated/distanced.
Body pics showing deco/neck/sideview to show breast/butt outlines are good enough to generate many likes without a face pic.
Interested girls will ask you out and follow up with conversations/whatsapp (reciprocal) etc.
Splitting the bill on the second date is bad - very often the end of the encounter.
You'll remember the girls you met because either they were attractive or they pissed you off.

Overall, for me meeting pretty girls via dating apps is very hard, not to say a total failure but the money could be put to better use.

Any guys here with 30-50 active chats on CMB at any one time maybe can share some tips, or any success stories. How about speed dating? Anyone been to one with many girls?
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Wow. That's a lot of money you spend. For me I just being girl go makan at mall, jalan2 at park. No point splurge so much at the beginning.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jan 10 2024, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(magicforumer @ Jan 10 2024, 10:04 PM)
Total Dating Expenditure for 2023:
Each meet-up estimated around RM100 (say 2 cocktails + share 1 or 2 plates)

So, 30 dates x RM100 = total RM3000 (but definitely more than that because there were a few second dates with the same girl)

The most expensive date was a 2-day staycation, burnt a hole in my wallet about RM1000

Total dating expenses (app/meetups) = RM7400
If to include the Misc stuffs like movies/billiards/and second time dates, i think around RM8000+

Splitting the bill on the second date is bad - very often the end of the encounter.
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cocktail so cheap in kl? If you include cocktail+petrol+toll for both people theres less way for it to become rm100/date, esp include quick accomodation like a hotel

thay godigger was a first date for 2 days staycation?

Splitting bill on first date is okay
-if you dont like the girl or vibe, just split it
-if she asks to split, its higher likelihood she doesnt want to see him again
-if she looks like a traditional girl, he asks to split it will come off as less gentleman but thats ok if she doesnt want to meet again (cause a lot of girls will morally judging a guy if he doesn't pay he must be not a gentleman)
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QUOTE(magicforumer @ Jan 10 2024, 10:04 PM)
Overall, for me meeting pretty girls via dating apps is very hard, not to say a total failure but the money could be put to better use.
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try to do daygame
on a weekend basis, you can approach 15-30 females under 2 hours (being non selective with 5/10 looks girl) within a high traffic mall or venue closeby. At least 30% of them will come out on a date with you (assuming you know the basic fundamentals)

30 females
9 of them will come out
3 of them will hook up with you

This is just a conservative speculation
(It depends on many circumstances like your smv/her windows of opportunity etc)



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post Jan 11 2024, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 11 2024, 01:53 AM)
cocktail so cheap in kl? If you include cocktail+petrol+toll for both people theres less way for it to become rm100/date, esp include quick accomodation like a hotel

thay godigger was a first date for 2 days staycation?

Splitting bill on first date is okay
-if you dont like the girl or vibe, just split it
-if she asks to split, its higher likelihood she doesnt want to see him again
-if she looks like a traditional girl, he asks to split it will come off as less gentleman but thats ok if she doesnt want to meet again (cause a lot of girls will morally judging a guy if he doesn't pay he must be not a gentleman)
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Yes, around RM25 for one cocktail. I only go to those franchise bar-restaurants at common malls. Starbucks/Coffee bean would cost around RM50 as well for 2 drinks.

The staycation was a second date. I was hasty and clouded because it felt like a perfect replacement for my-ex after recent breakup, someone in the same career field, younger etc. One year later after meeting different girls, I felt quite silly.
Now, meet ups/getting their numbers don't really matter anymore, thanks to beauty filters. But I do enjoy date-worthy girls who put in the effort and look their best.
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QUOTE(magicforumer @ Jan 11 2024, 04:10 PM)
Yes, around RM25 for one cocktail. I only go to those franchise bar-restaurants at common malls. Starbucks/Coffee bean would cost around RM50 as well for 2 drinks.

The staycation was a second date. I was hasty and clouded because it felt like a perfect replacement for my-ex after recent breakup, someone in the same career field, younger etc. One year later after meeting different girls, I felt quite silly.
Now, meet ups/getting their numbers don't really matter anymore, thanks to beauty filters. But I do enjoy date-worthy girls who put in the effort and look their best.
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After so many "meet up" from apps, could you find a potential girl to settle down?
I am just curious to know your experience, please do not be offended. thx
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QUOTE(magicforumer @ Jan 11 2024, 04:10 PM)
Yes, around RM25 for one cocktail. I only go to those franchise bar-restaurants at common malls. Starbucks/Coffee bean would cost around RM50 as well for 2 drinks.

The staycation was a second date. I was hasty and clouded because it felt like a perfect replacement for my-ex after recent breakup, someone in the same career field, younger etc. One year later after meeting different girls, I felt quite silly.
Now, meet ups/getting their numbers don't really matter anymore, thanks to beauty filters. But I do enjoy date-worthy girls who put in the effort and look their best.
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rm1000 is quite a lot for an average guy for second date
i guess you work in senior or sales position
thats ok its normal to project a good image onto the other person when we feel in scarcity, hence easily ignore their weaknesses as a person

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