For you to post here, I can see why she doesnt want to date u

if i chat with a new girl I'll make sure i see her within 7 days
the girl is showing interest if she still replies you (content doesnt matter much), as long as you keep facing rejections asking her out, she will eventually do so provided you still persisting without being a big stupid.

If a girl blantantly says you're just my bro, not a good sign
however, if either of you say we're just friends in a slightly fun and cheeky manner, that is a good sign

learn how to spot nuances i cant point to you exactly what things you need to focus on.

First always ask yourself. What is your end goal?
1. Is it bed the girl and do FWB
2. Long term relationship.

I can only advise based off long term relationship cause that's what I am doing.
1. Filter out the girls based off chatting with her.
2. From there you can see if you want to ask her out or just move on.
3. If she agree to come out, now the ball is in your park.
i) You can either be genuine and show her who you are and hope she likes the real you (easier cause just be yourself)
ii) Play mind games and eventually show her who you are (harder as it requires some learning)

For me, I choose option (i) and then proceed with the date/meeting.

4. For me the first meeting is always to get to know her better. Don't rush anything sit down somewhere where ideally only 2 of you and talk. Yes talk. Do not be a creep. Always make sure she is comfortable. At the end of the date you should be able to feel how it goes. Don't ask her for 2nd date first. 2nd date should come 2weeks or 1 month later. Don't push and don't hurry her.

5. Once reach home, just message the girl and tell her how you feel about the date. Always thank her for her time and hint of possible of looking forward to next meeting. Now depending on how you perform or if there is any chemistry, you might or might not get a second date. If you feel it went good and she refuse to come out again, well just move on. Cause some how she's not interested in you after the first date.

For my case I got my 2nd date. But I don't know how it will go. Yes I was myself the whole time, be honest, no mind games. Yes we talk and talk for hours and didn't feel the time fly by. No touching, or holding hands on my part. I make sure she's comfortable and didn't do anything uncomfortable. We just seat down next to each other and talk.

How to know if the girl is interested in you from chatting?
1. She replies all your message
2. Sometimes she does the messaging.
3. Your chat is not dead or boring.
4. She will ask how are you? How's your work? Etc..

For me, I ask her out usually after 1 month of chatting or 3 weeks. That way she knows roughly a little bit about you and you roughly about her. I won't straight ask her out.
You have to ask her out to know her more in detail (my friend who is girl taught me this). There's no escaping it. If she refuse to come out, try rescheduling. If after 3x she refuse, just walk away. Cause you already gave her 3 chance to come out. If she's interested to know you further, she will take up the opportunity to meet you. If she's not, well she won't want to meet up.

I went out with a girl (my friend from work) 2x, 3rd time try to get her out she keep saying busy like 5x so I just move on. If a girl likes you and you ask her out on her free day, she will come out even though she is busy that day cause she will make time for you. If she doesn't like you much well, she won't come out. It's just that simple.

Some girls don't like to play mind games rather you be honest, open and direct with them.
Some girls like mind games and like to feel being "chased"
So different storke of brush for different girls. Find the one that suits you the best.

Hope my little experience helps you.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 9 2022, 02:42 PM

Wow, I like this reply so much. This is probably the best advice. Let me share ONE experience (not mine but a friend's to you).

Originally know a girl who is a professional through a friend. The girl shows genuine interest like sharing photos of her routines etc.

Then came a time when suddenly she said to him it's not working out and she can't go on.

Found out it was because of her parents not approving of the guy's outlook and appearance. Apparently the girl disregarded the parents' words once on her ex-bf and the ex-bf gotten the best of her and now she is very wary of what the parents say cannot.

Thanks. I am just sharing my personal journey only. For me, I don't go for looks as there's a Chinese saying beautiful girl is not your wife and handsome husband is not your husband or something like that.

For me I go for girls with good personality. Someone who I like their personality. Looks, body all come seocnd aka bonus. But I will never go for girls who are fat as
1. It shows you for care about your health.
2. A potential health problem down the road.

If I can work out, why can't you?

Cannot do anything as she listen to her parents. One bad apple spoil everything.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 9 2022, 03:23 PM

You seem to know a lot and willing to share. Thanks for that. You really made clear a lot of things.

Yes you definitely can rely on dating app to move on. Just don't take anything seriously and never invest any true feeling towards anyone u met online

are you some kind of love guru? I'd be pretty interested in meeting you, regardless of your gender.

Man, all the ads saying dating ads are free free free... in the end, I still need to pay to see who like me... or am I doing something wrong here???

Wait 1 day for it show you. I always use the free one.

Meeting someone also not free, there are no free people out there spending their free time to see you.

You can get matches without paying.

However dating apps definitely encourage you to pay money for additional perks

never heard of fb dating?

I been using dating apps like Tinder, Bumble, Coffee Meets Bagel, OkCupid, Badoo, and Omi for past few months... feel like average looking guys like me can never get a match.

i am not using fb, like 1 post per 2~3 years.


but i am curios, if you FB dating... private?

or it will announce everybody i using fb dating now....

private..

Bro...
You totally get it wrong.

Is never about look. and the more desperate you seem, the lousier you looked.

Number 1 feats that actually attract Women : Confidence.
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Women really dislike Men who dont even trust themselve. They despise man like that

Number 2 feats that attract women : Humor.

Number 3 feats : Your achievement.


If you think women check your look.... just because all they can see is 1 picture of you. Dont judge on look then judge on what??

I can see you are desperately looking for partner.
You are really doing it wrong.

Build your confidence level 1st. Before go out hunting.

Really dont like FB

last time posting selling used laptop on FB (marketplace)

suddenly my friend call me, got financial problem ah.....

nobody knws u r on fb dating..

unless of cos thy are also using it..

noted with thanks..
never knew that.