https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel%E2%...ugust-2023.html

LGA1700 platform will still continue to breath coming into 2024, perhaps will only be replaced by Q3 2024. This gives 1st gen ADL users ability to upgrade the CPU 3 years after the initial launch back in 2021. So 3 years longevity vs 5 years Ryzen 7000s aint that bad after all.

Additionally
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intels-de...es-chipset.html
Arrowlake is still on as the proper desktop new gamechanger Tile CPU with its proper 8 Pcores.

When dudes are comparing their Epeen, that 1% longer makes all the difference.

You can check reviews. Often they like to use 13900K so if it works then ur nonK is ok.
The Steel Legend has same VRM setup as this Sonic mobo
https://www.funkykit.com/reviews/motherboar...board-review/9/

Rog Strix can try sendiri cari & compare.

I primarily play single player games because playing with people is tiring rather than enjoyable and I'd like to turn on eyecandy if possible.

Modern AAA titles now recommend 6big cores CPU and soon even 8 big cores as recommendation will be the norm. You can play light games on weaker CPU but on AAA titles you will have suboptimal experience.

Once you go 2K (which is where 4070 should be played) there is negligible difference between 9th & 13th gens. To me unsurprising really cuz gaming requirement hasnt gone past the need for 8 cores CPU yet so that 9700K still has a lot of room to play perhaps in another year or so when games recommended spec is 8 Pcores and thats when the additional Ecores in 12 & 13 gen will help it pull ahead.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Apr 17 2023, 12:28 AM

The Epeen King strikes back at the X3D pretenders LOL





This post has been edited by babylon52281: Apr 23 2023, 01:15 AM

More details on MeteorLake revealed and as I expected it is an underwhelming successor to RPL refresh



Clearly this will always be up to i5 level family as its limited to 6Pcores. For context its kinda like Broadwell gen family, if anyone remembers it, as the pariah inbetween Haswell & Skylake.

As I have mentioned b4 the true successor is ArrowLake (ARL), going back up to a proper 8 Pcores.

Perhaps so, but as a gaming CPU not so much. If this is the roadmap for Intel, as long as AMD doesnt stuff their 8800X/8800X3D launch it will wallop the MTL generation.

The more bombastic the name is, the lesser real world performance it can actually do.

Brother, in Msia here with our inflation it takes both our kidneys....

For intel CPU no point to wait (if want 12th gen) unless ur hoping for price drops on 13th gen when 14th gen comes out in Q4 2023/Q1 2024.

For i5 CPU i dont foresee any significant technological changes, even 14th gen it will likely still remain 6Pcores with HT and possibly more useless Ecores. Right now ady can get 12600K/ 13500/ 13600K with the same features so I dont see any reason to hope for something better later.

Even with a B660/B760 mobo, a Ksku is still beneficial since it can up the VCCSA if wanting to run 3600-4000MHZ DDR4 ram @G1 mode. But in Msia, Ksku prices usually a few RM away from the next CPU tier so unless there is good bargain its not really value for money. Sadly.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 2 2023, 05:53 PM

Zen 1 & 2 was a poor gaming CPU because the nature of MCX and process node limitations then, each CCX was 4 cores so that CPU itself was really 4+4 cores and that lead to high latencies in games that uses more than 4 cores as the CCX need to 'talk' with each other over a physically separated bus. The higher IPC of Zen could not overcome the longer signal time when CCX crosstalks.

For Zen 3, the node improvements meant they could cram up to 8 cores into 1 CCX and while Zen 3 physically is still the same MCX, it is actually operating as 8+8 cores and for games the 6-8 cores count are ideal. By only prioritising one CCX for games, it now operates like a monolithic CPU similar to Intel's, and coupled with Zen's superior IPC & power efficiency, this is why games took a huge leap with Zen 3. This is also why X3D is stacked onto only one CCX, games simply don't need more than 8 cores at least for now.

One thing that such comparos forget to mention is that platforms built with Zen2 could still be upgraded to Zen 3 (and technically is still alive with the latest CPU launched this week), those who were on 9900K had no upgrade path.

RPL-R is becoming reality and slated as the 14th Gen.
https://www.techpowerup.com/311026/report-c...ting-in-october

And this round it doesnt appear that it will come with a new mobo series iteration ie 800 series, as that generation looks to be for Meteor/Arrowlake aka LGA1851.

So Intel LGA1700 isnt so deadend as Ryzen fanbois claimed, with 3 CPU gens under it this could almost match with Ryzen platform longevity.

The downer is no further changes to Pcores as still remain 8core but continue bumping up useless Ecores
https://www.techpowerup.com/311050/8p-16e-d...-core-hx-lineup

Its product stagnation, Intel been on 8Pcores since 9th gen so coming to Arrowlake is ady 6 generations this remain the same. Very much like previous 4C/8T era. Ecores useful in certain apps but its functionality is limited. Would you prefer 8Pcore + 10Ecore or 10Pcore + 8Ecore?

Somemore Pcores has HT so thread count is double vs Ecores.

AMD is also guilty to a lesser extend as their trumped 7800X3D has absolutely NO core count improvement over 5800X3D, but at least they have 7900X3D & 7950X3D in higher range.

Pre12th gen CPU computers might not be such a bad idea after all, especially if you can keep the temps in check;



So far only seen one reviewer has spoken about this very unique but perhaps not too uncommon, problem.

Full reviews unleashed!

https://www.guru3d.com/review/intel-core-i5-14600k-review/

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10559/int...-cpu/index.html

https://www.guru3d.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k-review/

https://www.techspot.com/review/2749-intel-...-14th-gen-cpus/

This is the swansong for LGA1700 platform but what a ride! 3 CPU generations nearly matches AMD much touted Ryzens longevity and every step has it been ahead of them. Those who bought into a quality Alderlake system will rightly be assured there is still a final upgrade path for next 1 year.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Oct 19 2023, 10:15 AM

LGA1700 platform might not be so dead after all and perhaps will live on as a value for money lower end system to next gen Core Ultras
https://www.guru3d.com/story/intel-to-updat...ure-transition/

If performance can scale well, future CPUs could get better performance than 14700K/14900K even if they are in the value category.

Yet another patent troll that managed to get a willy nilly court injunction. But intel got the moolahs to fight it.