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post Aug 5 2025, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 4 2025, 09:53 PM)
Pushing FPS at low resolution, lose out by far.

Pushing FPS at high resolution (4K) range, the 245K is actually pretty darn good. Can't say the same for the 285K.

Multi-core workload, I'm quite surprised at what the 245K can deliver.
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Expected ARL would be Intels Ryzen 1st gen moment, absolute shitshow and turns out it did, not as bad but fundamental mistakes with tile uarch making it slower than RPL and like for like AM5 (nonX3D).

Hopefully they have redesign Pantherlake to work out its weaknesses, but Im cautiously optimistic seeing as under LBT they no longer have the money to throw at innovative solutions. Perhaps Intel, like AMD until 3000 series to actually come out a competitive CPU design.
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post Aug 20 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 20 2025, 08:14 AM)
"the promotion is limited to select regions and participating retailers." dry.gif

Malaysia is likely excluded or else just limited to a handful of distros & big resellers.

And its ironic Intel is promoting Gamer Day when it absolutely lost its gaming king CPU crown. Long live X3D CPU kings!
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post Aug 22 2025, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 22 2025, 08:23 AM)
Not king but still more than enough for gaming. Not to mention, X3D is extremely overpriced for work+ gaming rigs.
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No? X3D CPU is totally thrashing the best of Intel gaming CPU (not ARL)

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Its not even a marginal diff as 18-22% is the performance of a tier above CPU.

And if it wasnt obvious to you, Gamers Day is all about... gaming. Not work apps.
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post Aug 22 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 22 2025, 10:42 AM)
Work Is only thing stopping 9800X3D from complete domination. Every second is money.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/...reation-review/

18-22% more gaming doesn't give money. Considering 14900K already pulling more than 120 FPS.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2931-amd-ry...el-core-14900k/
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IF work = more cores, then theres 16 Core 9950X3D, same gaming performance but able to do more work.

And if thats not enuff there the mother of all king CPU with dual X3D
https://www.techpowerup.com/339579/amd-read...e-and-200-w-tdp
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post Sep 6 2025, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 5 2025, 07:18 PM)
TBH ARL-S isn't that bad as most people think, but the thing is Intel pretty much killed off the value proposition of LGA1851 with the abysmal upgrade path over their competitors  sweat.gif
If it had the same platform longevity as AM5 then I can see LGA1851 filling the niche of a value gaming/workstation hybrid build sweat.gif
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ARL was terrible not only because it couldnt give a near fight against x3d CPU kings, it cant even beat its predecessor 14th gen (of course Intel pushed that over the limit to get those good results but killing the CPU).

Am not too hardup on platform longevity coz tech keeps improving, LGA1700 had good run with transition between DDR4/5, PCIE4/5, USB3/4. However ARL with DDR5/ CUDIMM DDR5 & PCIE5 and I dont think theres any significant upgrade needed; DDR6 still a few years, PCIE6 too also.
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QUOTE(sleyer @ Sep 8 2025, 12:02 PM)
regarding 13/14 gen degradation issues already fix rite  using bios microcode what version ya?
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You can google it but initially was 2 microcodes needed, but do update bios if there are newer ones after those.
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post Sep 19 2025, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Sep 19 2025, 09:23 AM)
Looks like Intel is still alive.
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However this might mark the end for ARC. Intel doesnt have the finance or capacity to carry 2 ipgu solutions and if there is no volume to push ARC above their measly 1% market share, then Intel will sooner ditch ARC esp if the Nvidia brandname can help sell more CPUs (yes ironic isnt it?).

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