Rogues are not as poor as Hunters

in high end arena sense, they are equally the shittiest class.

in pve sense, even with rogues able to top dps meters while hunters for the most part couldnt, at least they can avoid repair bills almost all the time, and they are pretty much the only class able to afkshot since aggro is non-factor to them and their main dmg comes from autoshot.

during our raids, feral dps is always at the bottom of dps charts even in full dps gear

mainly rogues, locks, mages, hunters, shadow priest in that order

This post has been edited by lowzi: Sep 7 2007, 03:45 PM

During your raid, feral dps is always at bottom even in full dps gear and they can dps 100% of the time. Hmm, where were your raiding exactly and what encounter are you talking about? And your shadow priest, losing to mages and hunter ... Mainly ... something doesn't seems right.

LoL that is so wrong man.. rogues are good for arena depending on which kinda class combo youre using and which arena group your in , right now most of the top 3v3 teams consists a rogue . So rogues arent really a shitty class for arena imo, if you know how to play the class, any class will be useful..

ignore my previous comment
just asked around during raids, actually feral dps can beat sp on certain fights and it also depends on grpings

maybe sp need to hold back on aggro? i know a lot of them cant go all out 100% of the fight
and our mages (enocic - resilience - amanthul) and hunters (athos) are pretty good geared tho

actually im just a healer lol dont know much about dps just posting on the occasional dps meters and what i see in raid

This post has been edited by lowzi: Sep 10 2007, 04:48 PM

1) 5v5 or 3v3 yields more epeen and/or points?
2) check your info again, 3v3 teams are still majoritily dominated by the unholy 4 warrior/paladin/warlock/priest
3) the above applies to 2v2 and 5v5 as well
4) when world class players like nitrana/xecks/neilyo/hwarang have issues with their class and from time to time express their concerns about the rogue class, i doubt its just a matter of "know how to play the class, and it'll be f***ing useful", because quite frankly, those guys KNOW how to play their damn class.
5) look around the tournaments being held, rogues and hunters are always on the all time low as opposed to the unholy 4 -> warrior/paladin/warlock/priest, this should mean something, if it doesnt to you, go shoot yourself in the head.
6) EPIC FAIL, TRY AGAIN BIATCH.

but rogues still better than hunters mar...
only hunter i've seen on competitive 5v5 is the use of survival serpent sting lol trap hunters...
3v3 errr hardly...
2v2 more unlikely...

there's this duo though, 2v2 rogue sp that kicks ass from blackrock server if im not mistaken. some really good skillz pwnage there...

but for 2v2 its usually the cookie cutter, warlock-sp, warlock-pally, warrior-pally,warrior-druid, warlock-druid...

well, that is true. give or take.

rogues while having melee issues, at least its just melee. hunters, LOS, deadzone, GETTING KITED LOL!, is just sad. then when they go oom, gg pee shots.

do take note though, i did mention both hunters/rogues, not just rogues

and no, only hunters that are competitive are MM hunters, no surv, no BM, all MM.

ret paladin dps.. :/









lol jk

1.if your 3v3 is 2k rating and your 5v5 is 1.7k rating,which one will matter?
2)i just checked my battlegroup(bg9) 3v3 ladder,theres 7 rogues on top ten arena teams.
I am lazy to check 5v5 though,but most of the 4dps team use rogue.And 4dps is another scrub friendly group..put dots nuke down warrior while ur lock priest spelllock/fear/silence thier healer and you win..you can use this setup and get to 1.9k+ easily.
3)oh didnt check 2v2 too,but if you have a good warlock teammtae,you can eat scrub friendly war/pal group for breakfast(unless they have bt shadow resistance gear). i will say 2v2 3v3 is based on rock paper scissors.(well maybe 5v5 too)
4)well,otherthan inactive,most of them still playing rogue.
5)how about druid?they are better healer than pally in 2v2 3v3 but they are low as well so what does that mean?

I am not saying rogue is overpowered ,some people might think rogue look like a gimped version of warrior(which is quite true),but they are still good against certain classes like warlock,shadowpriest in arena.
Ok my points is rogue do need help,but rogue is still doing fine in arena especially 3v3 and in tbc rogue takes some skills to play since you cant kill people with just a stunlock now.

surv hunters have good cc
team pandemic thought outside of the box and used it in such a manner... which i honestly am impressed.
marksmanship hunters can only hope and dream to take down any other char... they cant even kill a holy priest

This thread HAS Basically no use honestly. I can beat Shadow priest dps in fights if i only go cat form for the whole raid and obviously on boss fights that i can Bleed. I have beaten a shadow priest with 1270 shadow damage and he is not a NOOB like 'one person' thinks. Just because the class is not 'ment' to beat you it does not mean it can't. Honestly why would i want to lie , hell thats why i just asked the question if Feral dps is better then Shadow priests. I do agree Shadow priests are awesome. I am making one now and i am level 37. (love it ). My ex guild used to use feral druids in cat when there were'nt many rogues around SP's when the warlock was not around and we destroyed bosses. That does not mean my guild is in the so call 'SPecial olympics' just because we do so. In cat with full buffs and shamies i can do 1400 sustained dps. Without a shammies it turns out i do around 800-1000 sustained dps on bosses. THese are bosses that can be blead. Yes i know a rogue will beat me on a single target and so will a warlock.. but so what.. that is not the point..I just want to let you all know that dont think because i am not a main dps class like a rogue that i cant beat them on certain occasions. I have done it before and it has been proven. I even did it before mangle at level 60. I beat the top 2 rogues in my guild and i have only 1100 atk power at level 60. So currently i know the answer.. never ask low yatt people for help and I think i understand that now.. Basically I have asked the forums in WOW and lots of druids have showed my their dps meter and they are at the top for boss fights.. Well i have nothing more to say. I know that 'someone who thinks he knows everything' will try and talk his way out but let him I dont give a rats arse for what he thinks. For me this thread is closed.

no... the one who thinks they know everything is you.

at least nobody here goes around mocking other ppl that they can peeveepee pwn them on recruitment threads.

have u ever take a look at the paladin forums? they too can dish out 1k sustained dps on bosses as retardins.

i'll quote your topic again, "Shadow priest vs Feral druids dps, Which is better"

shadow priest will and always be one of the top dpsers wether u like it or not. we didn't say feral can't dps... postboy already stated that they can dish out 1k dps as well, but he takes them for more utility (bres). which is more practical? shadow priest...

and seriously by claiming that you can beat your "PRO" friend's sp dps, what are u trying to claim? that you're godlike? well if it makes u happy... yeah keep telling urself that.

u asked for suggestions, we gave u answers... and to quote jack nicholson (he's a living legend btw) "YOU WANT THE TRUTH?? WELL YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"

p.s : shitty jobs gets me on the offensive. sorry.

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Added on September 11, 2007, 12:00 pmGod damnit.... entertain me. TYPE SOMETHING!!! when i get back from lunch i better see something or i'm gona get real mad!!!


p.s 2 : shitty job syndrome

This post has been edited by sets84: Sep 11 2007, 12:00 PM

www.jobstreet.com ---> Temporary relieft for shitty job syndrome.

i already got a new job... waiting for end of this month

then no more 3hr lunch breaks?

So what would your problem be? I am just stating that not to brag. I Started saying that because you guys kept saying that you will never beat a shadow priest in dps. Druids can.. So WHO CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH NOW????! I Just asked which is better not to brag but i cant stand it when my class gets put down. then I go on the offensive. If you did not realise that then why i attacked back then why are you posting here in the first place? From a simple question it became and arguement.. do you see where I am going here. I just stated i can beat Sp's in dps.. so what.. is that a wrong thing to say? I am bragging?

and we say there's something wrong with your sp's dps?

is that a know it all answer?

sheeshh... read your posts before you post, you were obviously the 1 having issues... im just nit picking ur ignorance for my entertainment

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Added on September 11, 2007, 3:36 pmmyremi : i'm looking forward to my next job actually, im kind of a career type of person. so i don't mind as long as the environment is motivating... if not i guess ill be hopping again =p

This post has been edited by sets84: Sep 11 2007, 03:36 PM

Anyway thanks for the help.. you guys were the best. You guys helped me so much Especially sets he was soooo helpfull wow.. I think i wills stick to the real deal the wow forums. Atleast they know what they are talking about. So if you want to flame me go ahead.. since i am ignorant even without you guys reading what i said..cool keep it up.