I have a look at our WWS
one of our shy shadow priest (Tulang )manage to dish out 693 dps

http://www.we-are-syck.com/wws-20070901-2316/
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/characte...rthorn&n=Tulang

your rogue (rogin) needs to step the f*** up and get his miss rates down.

and wheres his poisons dmg value? mutilate rogues dealing no dmg from poisons? wtf?

dpsers below a 4 digit average dps is crap... i see a whole lot of problems with the dps there

Shadowpriest/Affliction lock is always up the charts in my guild.
For some reason, a supposedly primary healing class like priest end up highest dps. Blizzard is purely stupid.

Feral dps will never beat a pure dps class, ever.
But they are really nice to have in a group. +5% crit and shift out for innervating healers.

cant agree any better

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Added on September 4, 2007, 11:32 pmhealers need some love too! ok!

so they get to poke around #1 on dps meters

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 4 2007, 11:32 PM

lol this topic isnt even arguable.

Qua : Yeah, I know it's digressing. That's why I started my post to plaz's reply as such. As for 500 DPS, it could be that the feral druid was also in tanking gear in case of any situations that happen. What to do? Shit happens lor so the feral druid is doing helping with emergencies. But I only started digressing when I see others also digressing. And since ashwin88 didn't say "stop that Myremi", I just went on.

plaz : Thanks for the post and details. Looking at the fight stats, I don't feel so bad about my Shadow Priest atm as it looks like Tulang has the same gear issues that I'm having.

Goblinsk8er : No offence but when people say that a Shadow Priest/Affliction Lock tops DPS charts, I'm starting to wonder whether :

-they are that good at Gameplay
-their Gear is superior compared to others
-there are other DPSers in the raid who aren't maximising their class
-all DPSers are doing roughly about the same amount of damage (Total Damage Done) but the DPS values differs between classes (usually between DoT and Direct Damage)

Everytime someones tells me that shadow priest tops the DPS meter, I'm just wondering whether it's really a true reflection of a class capabilities when I see conflicting results across WWS results of the same raid boss. Spell rotations are the same. Majority of the gear that a shadow priest wears are the same. And without some numbers for entire raid, it's hard to claim that they will also top the DPS meter. I've not gone on PUG raids so can't tell. But heroic runs, in PUGs I top the Damage Meters but in guild runs, I'm above the tank.

Only major difference is the rings and trinkets. Atm, my head hurts a fair bit because trying to push my Shadow Priest past the 1K spell damage limit (unbuff) and even then, if it's not the right rings or trinkets, I'm wondering if I will ever hit the elusive 800 DPS w/o buffs / 1000 DPS with buffs. Enchants remains the same when upgrading and other gears upgrade is dependant on raid progression. Unless the numbers are not correct and that it would mean more grinding to get the right rings and trinklets.

I used Dr.Boom tests to determine some raw DPS figures to find out my limitation and maximise different spell rotations. Raid numbers will be lower than Dr. Boom tests results. Still though, the Dr. Boom tests was a full DPS session so getting an idea of what I can currently do helps a bit. At least elevates my worry.

sets84 : That's why I'm asking a lot of questions.

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it's known as a thread hijack!

Come on, what ppl want in feral druid is tanking, not DPS.

what ppl want in shadow priest is DPS.

You comparing between the feral druid and shadow priest about dps?

If you want to dps as a druid, go cat.

If you can beat a rogue in 1v1 as a feral druid, its not because you out dps the rogue, its likely your armor+HP outdone the rogue dps.

So, a feral druid gonna top his dps\dmg over shadow priest in raid\grp? That shadow priest must be a regular AFKers.

it saddens me whenever another fellow starship enterprise is just above the tank in dps T_T

myremi, wats ur spell rotation?

topping dps charts must and always be warlocks, shadow priests, rogues and mages...

usually the first 2 being warlocks or shadow priests followed by rogues then mages... sometimes they differ based on the nature of the fight. but VR is easy pew pew then loot, your dps casters should be at the top. i haven't been raiding much lately, more like 0 raiding atm... but from what i've played and what i've seen, i don't see any mistakes in what i said

and no, don't ever be satisfied with the dps just cos u KILLED the boss...
that's just 1 boss, the other bosses will differ... and also the higher ur dps the less taxing it is on your healers. they take the most pressure during boss fights

myremi : the last time i used my warlock, i tried to prove to others that gear isn't everything. I had the usual tailoring stuff and a neck from prince. That is all... top dpser in gruul fight, and i wasn't even the agony warlock... for dpsers its all about rotation rotation rotation. I've seen my friend's new shadow priest with the 3 piece shadow tailor gear, holding a GREEN weapon... put to shame many other dpsers cos he knows his rotation. and i can't stress this enough... if your dpsers can't hit, you lose

and yeah..
DS is only good in complimenting the destruction tree.

lol i hope the topic does not stray into which class does most dps.

ops sorry for classifying then... i guess as long as the dpsers do above 4 digit dps is okay. my former guild hunter could also top dps charts... but that's just cos he's skilled. one of the rare hunters i've ever seen

was he bm?

yeap he is

hm didnt bm have a bug then where a pet did like some crazy dot dmg.

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Added on September 5, 2007, 11:54 amhow u like the haste rating nerf. lol.

This post has been edited by Kurei: Sep 5 2007, 11:54 AM

yeah they told me once he was doing a big chunk of crazy dps atm...
but even after he's still getting high on the charts, cos the last few times i raided... he was among the top 3 most of the time

haste rating nerf? meh doesn't affect me at all... or were you talking to some1 else?

hm i tot u might have some comments since melee haste rating is getting some nerf.

Let me guess.
That BM hunter is using a scorpid pet?
Freaking scorpid are dealing like 450dps alone. (900 per tick poison dmg)
Its actually sort of an exploit.
Just pop TBW and all AP trinkets then you activate scorpid poison rank 4. (rank 5 doesnt work coz it wear off fast and and have longer CD)
As long as you maintain the stack of scorpid poison thru out the fight, the scorpid poison damage will remain the same even without TBW switch on.
Blizzard already nerfed it badly. I mean very badly.
I tested it on PTR realms. It only deal 220dmg per tick at 2600AP now.(Pop trinkets n Orc talent)



BTW, no offense. BM spec=no skill.
Their shot rotation is based on macro.
/castsequence reset=3 Auto Shot, Steady Shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget,exists] Kill Command

Its just Autoshot>Steadyshot>AS>SS>AS>SS>AS>SS>AS>SS until the boss drops dead.
They seldom weave in arcane shots/multishot in it coz they are shooting too fast.
Weaving in arcane shots may even lower their dps due to clipping of shots and cooldown etc.


Honestly as a hunter myself, i think the Serpent switfness talent deserves a nerf.
+20% atk speed is too much. Maybe +15% is still reasonable.

I still prefer Surv spec though. Awesome AP/Crit and +AP buff to entire raid.
Oops. going wayyyy off topic.