Note : I'm just being kepo.
Shadow priest vs Feral druids dps, Which is better
Shadow priest vs Feral druids dps, Which is better
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Sep 4 2007, 12:42 PM
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Got any wowwebstats to prove it?
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Sep 4 2007, 01:38 PM
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Actually, I'm more curious to see how much DPS a feral can dish out, not to compare against a rogue. I have a feral druid to gear up so wanted to see how the numbers are like.
The numbers I've seen in my guild between a blue rogue and an epic out feral druid is not a good comparison becoz the druid was most of the time OT-ing. But the blue rogue did a lot of damage compared to some of the other range/caster DPS. Probably another thing to note is that the posters do make references to both PvE and PvP. I forgot to mention that I'm looking at raid DPS. And I'm just plain kepo. |
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Sep 4 2007, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(plaz @ Sep 4 2007, 01:41 PM) If you simply want to compare dps, nothing else, but just pure dps between a shadow priest VS a feral druid (as what you mention just dps), Shadow priest should be higher. Yeah, I saw that and therefore replied to his reply back to my statement. And probably more explaination. Although it doesn't answer the OP's original question on 1-vs-1 PvP, it's more to do with PvE raiding so it does degress a lot from his original question.What suggestion you want anyway? you question like half hanging like that. In my guild most of the time, locks/rogues always top the dps charts. I have a feral druid which I'm currently gearing up. I'm actually curious to see the DPS done by another feral druid, in this case ashwin88 who is currently in good gear. I'm also assuming that he's also in Malaysia where we have latency issues that affect DPS values. The figures I see in my guild is that the feral druid kitty is DPS is around 470-508 if it's not a fight that is movement intensive like Gruul. That's for an Australian player. Wanted to see how it's like for a Malaysian raider. The gear is assumed to be Kara, Gruul and Mag. As for topping the DPS charts, I'd say it depends on what we're looking at. Whether it's Damage Done or just DPS. There are times when DPS values are very high but the damage done is less. Also, just to see how much effect does the Streamyx Latency has in DPS figures for certain classes. Gear is probably another thing because of the trinket buffs which are not captured in Character Sheet until used or when it gears proc. My current main is a Shadow Priest and I'm having a really hard time pushing pass the 600 DPS barrier with about 980 damage unbuff in fights that are not movement intensive. That's with Stopcasting Macros + Quartz + Trinket Macros. Topping DPS charts. Well, it's a lot to do with the fight and the gear so I usually don't argue on who is on top or not. And again, it depends on whether it's Damage Done or just DPS values only. Also, other factors influencing the figures are the fight and the class and the gear and gameplay. Example : Our Guild Frost Mage does 900 - 1K DPS in crafted + Kara + Gruul gear and he used to play with a latency of 800 ms before changing providers. Although this is for encounters up to Gruul and not in SSC/TK/Mag. The only other guildies who come close are the hunters and even they have a hard time to get to the DPS and damage output he does. Anyway, back to ashwin88. What would I do with the values if he's posted it up? Well, the next step I'd ask on gameplay and improving on feral druid DPS since I do have a feral druid alt. Not to pick a fight on whether locks or rogues will top the DPS meter. Just to see what can be improve from my side. Yes, I can get advice from the official WoW Forums but what they can't give me is the DPS that they get from playing via a lousy ISP provider named Streamyx. Does that answer your question? |
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Sep 4 2007, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(ashwin988 @ Sep 4 2007, 04:21 PM) Well basically druids do fairly alot of dps . i would need to show you all out dps then. Well basically now i have joined a friends guild so i dont raid much cause i have all the gear i need. SO when i do raid i will show you the meters and take a snap shot for you.. how much atk power do you have in CAT myremi? I can't recall offhand and I think I log out in tanking gear. It's not a lot and the last I check while farming, I think I hit only 290 DPS but she's not geared in Kara gear or even Heroic epics. I've only just recently respec her from being Resto for a long time (and even then, she wasn't Kara raiding). One of the reasons I retired that Resto Druid was because I had problems keeping tanks up in Heroics pre 2.1 i.e. before the nerf. That was out of tree form. The Shadow Priest was more fun to play. Postnote : hmm....come to think about it now, 290 DPS is probably not a good number as well since it's not a raid boss and it was attacking from the front. This post has been edited by myremi: Sep 4 2007, 05:15 PM |
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Sep 5 2007, 08:59 AM
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Qua : Yeah, I know it's digressing. That's why I started my post to plaz's reply as such. As for 500 DPS, it could be that the feral druid was also in tanking gear in case of any situations that happen. What to do? Shit happens lor so the feral druid is doing helping with emergencies. But I only started digressing when I see others also digressing. And since ashwin88 didn't say "stop that Myremi", I just went on.
plaz : Thanks for the post and details. Looking at the fight stats, I don't feel so bad about my Shadow Priest atm as it looks like Tulang has the same gear issues that I'm having. Goblinsk8er : No offence but when people say that a Shadow Priest/Affliction Lock tops DPS charts, I'm starting to wonder whether : -they are that good at Gameplay -their Gear is superior compared to others -there are other DPSers in the raid who aren't maximising their class -all DPSers are doing roughly about the same amount of damage (Total Damage Done) but the DPS values differs between classes (usually between DoT and Direct Damage) Everytime someones tells me that shadow priest tops the DPS meter, I'm just wondering whether it's really a true reflection of a class capabilities when I see conflicting results across WWS results of the same raid boss. Spell rotations are the same. Majority of the gear that a shadow priest wears are the same. And without some numbers for entire raid, it's hard to claim that they will also top the DPS meter. I've not gone on PUG raids so can't tell. But heroic runs, in PUGs I top the Damage Meters but in guild runs, I'm above the tank. Only major difference is the rings and trinkets. Atm, my head hurts a fair bit because trying to push my Shadow Priest past the 1K spell damage limit (unbuff) and even then, if it's not the right rings or trinkets, I'm wondering if I will ever hit the elusive 800 DPS w/o buffs / 1000 DPS with buffs. Enchants remains the same when upgrading and other gears upgrade is dependant on raid progression. Unless the numbers are not correct and that it would mean more grinding to get the right rings and trinklets. I used Dr.Boom tests to determine some raw DPS figures to find out my limitation and maximise different spell rotations. Raid numbers will be lower than Dr. Boom tests results. Still though, the Dr. Boom tests was a full DPS session so getting an idea of what I can currently do helps a bit. At least elevates my worry. sets84 : That's why I'm asking a lot of questions. |
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Sep 5 2007, 09:03 AM
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Sep 11 2007, 12:29 PM
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Sep 11 2007, 03:03 PM
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then no more 3hr lunch breaks?
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Sep 12 2007, 01:17 PM
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Hmm...we should get people angry more often on LYN. More information comes out.
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Sep 17 2007, 04:48 PM
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doh u lot. enough lah.
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