Ok I have a question currently I am making a shadow priest cause i am kinda bored playing my druid. I have not fully done the EYE or SSC. BUt Its just 1 and a Half years of druiding is getting boring . So i am making a shadow priest. I just wanted to know will a shadow priests dps beat a feral druids dps. Right now in cat i haev 2900 atk power and 31% crit. How much + to magical spell and shadow spells would i need to beat a druid.

The thing is beating a shadow priest one on one in pvp is really really really hard or near impossible. ANyway any suggestions? Ps i am really enjoying my level 27 shadow priest at the moment

yes.........

if you intend to raid, shadow priest > feral druid
your raid task as a druid is to tank, dps is secondary
shadow priest dps will always > feral druid
besides ve n vt > lotp in raid

shadow priest dps is also increased by which grp its put into, shadow piest + hunters = higher dps etc

gearing a shadow priest is easy anyway, tailoring set, badge items and rep items

Why compare shadow priest vs -feral- druid?

Does feral DPS?

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yep shadow priest always done more dps than feral druid

Shadowpriest is more viable than a feral druid as raid dpser. Reason being that if supplemented by a warlock's CoS, the shadowpriest will do a buttload of damage. More shadowpriest dmg = more life and mana gained by party members.

feral dps lol...

ur gonna be pitted against rogues, and unless ur competing against a crippled or retarded rogue, or a very undergeared rogue compared to urself, you have 0 chance to outdps the rogue.

and being a melee dps'er, your viability will be put to the chopping board, if you know what i mean. true, occassionaly feral bears tank, but thats just as viable as feral dps can go.

Depends on gear

Dude.. please.. seriously do not insult druids dps.I outbeat most rogues and these guys are A) damn good players. B) not crippled retards c: know how to freaking play.

Secondly Yes i have been called to tank or off tank. BUT if not i am always called to dps. I agree very very very well geared rogues can beat me. BUt do not say blue ones can. Secondly i can beat a shadow priest in dps unless they have 1300 to spell damage or higher. Thats why i am asking. Most of my guildy's know my dps is high that why i usually dps in cat rather then tank in bear.

So most of you who are ignored dont give me that 'Feral dps lol' crap. My ex guild which was Blue Label on Barthilas horde side we using mostly druids in cats and shadow priests . I just wanted to know. Thanks for the insults though LOL.

Anyway if you want to check my gear go to the armory and check out ASTROBULL thats my name.

Got any wowwebstats to prove it?

Note : I'm just being kepo.

Ok fine , when i do raid next I will post it up here. Yes the rogues in BLUELABEL were very well geared. BUt in a normal guild it is possible to bear a normal rogue one on one and we both were with normal gear. It depends on luck on crits mostly and which group the rogue was in and what buffs he had on. Usually i have salvation on becuase i do pull a lot of agro. Secondly i never said rogues are not good..yes rogues can beat a feral druid when they are geared properly..but there is not reason a good geared druid cannot bear a good geared rogue..its all play styles.

Actually, I'm more curious to see how much DPS a feral can dish out, not to compare against a rogue. I have a feral druid to gear up so wanted to see how the numbers are like.

The numbers I've seen in my guild between a blue rogue and an epic out feral druid is not a good comparison becoz the druid was most of the time OT-ing. But the blue rogue did a lot of damage compared to some of the other range/caster DPS.

Probably another thing to note is that the posters do make references to both PvE and PvP. I forgot to mention that I'm looking at raid DPS.

And I'm just plain kepo. Gotta give me points for being honest here. >.>

If you simply want to compare dps, nothing else, but just pure dps between a shadow priest VS a feral druid (as what you mention just dps), Shadow priest should be higher.

What suggestion you want anyway? you question like half hanging like that.
In my guild most of the time, locks/rogues always top the dps charts.

us shadow priests are like teh starship enterprise.
SHIELDS UP! LAZER PEWPEW!!













nuff said.

Well basically druids do fairly alot of dps . i would need to show you all out dps then. Well basically now i have joined a friends guild so i dont raid much cause i have all the gear i need. SO when i do raid i will show you the meters and take a snap shot for you.. how much atk power do you have in CAT myremi?

if you beat those rogues then they are no doubt the opposite of what you said.

and reading comprehension failing? whos talking about undergeared rogues beating you? if ur gonna compared to the handicapped, grats on winning the special olympics, no matter whos the winner, ur all retards.

and if ur guild is using mostly druids in cats and shadow priests over rogue and warlock, which are a more "purer" form over the class you mentioned, again, grats on the special olympics.

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Added on September 4, 2007, 4:35 pmI KNOW WHAT YOU DID THARRRRRRR

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 4 2007, 04:35 PM

Yeah, I saw that and therefore replied to his reply back to my statement. And probably more explaination. Although it doesn't answer the OP's original question on 1-vs-1 PvP, it's more to do with PvE raiding so it does degress a lot from his original question.

I have a feral druid which I'm currently gearing up. I'm actually curious to see the DPS done by another feral druid, in this case ashwin88 who is currently in good gear. I'm also assuming that he's also in Malaysia where we have latency issues that affect DPS values. The figures I see in my guild is that the feral druid kitty is DPS is around 470-508 if it's not a fight that is movement intensive like Gruul. That's for an Australian player. Wanted to see how it's like for a Malaysian raider. The gear is assumed to be Kara, Gruul and Mag.

As for topping the DPS charts, I'd say it depends on what we're looking at. Whether it's Damage Done or just DPS. There are times when DPS values are very high but the damage done is less. Also, just to see how much effect does the Streamyx Latency has in DPS figures for certain classes. Gear is probably another thing because of the trinket buffs which are not captured in Character Sheet until used or when it gears proc. My current main is a Shadow Priest and I'm having a really hard time pushing pass the 600 DPS barrier with about 980 damage unbuff in fights that are not movement intensive. That's with Stopcasting Macros + Quartz + Trinket Macros.

Topping DPS charts. Well, it's a lot to do with the fight and the gear so I usually don't argue on who is on top or not. And again, it depends on whether it's Damage Done or just DPS values only. Also, other factors influencing the figures are the fight and the class and the gear and gameplay. Example : Our Guild Frost Mage does 900 - 1K DPS in crafted + Kara + Gruul gear and he used to play with a latency of 800 ms before changing providers. Although this is for encounters up to Gruul and not in SSC/TK/Mag. The only other guildies who come close are the hunters and even they have a hard time to get to the DPS and damage output he does.

Anyway, back to ashwin88. What would I do with the values if he's posted it up? Well, the next step I'd ask on gameplay and improving on feral druid DPS since I do have a feral druid alt. Not to pick a fight on whether locks or rogues will top the DPS meter. Just to see what can be improve from my side. Yes, I can get advice from the official WoW Forums but what they can't give me is the DPS that they get from playing via a lousy ISP provider named Streamyx.

Does that answer your question?

since your wanting only raid pve dps, here they are:
numbers alone, if you made thorough comparisons, you will see why rogue has ALL the advantages over a druid.

-aggro threshold
rogue have a passive -20% (or was it 30%? confused) aggro to everything he do, coupled with feints (shitty skill, but just to point out comparisons and advantages over a druid) and vanishes altogether, a rogue can go over the aggro limit while a druid, even if he can out dps the rogue, will be severely capped by the aggro limit.

-itemization
look in game on rogue and druid items. most agi based melee dps items have hit rating attached to them, which obviously, helps rogues more than they help druids. rogues require between 250-300 hit rating, druid requires maybe... 100ish? just to get the 5% cap and the lvl73 miss penalty cap. needless to say, you will be having wasted stats. then compare the rogue set and the feral druid set, yet again, more advantages to the rogue. notice once ur on t5 and beyond, rogues get default passive armor piercing... druids... not so great.

-buff ultilizations
LOTP, if a druid have it, rogues can too, so favor to rogue, nada to druid. windfury, weapons > paws. blessings, druids need salvation to keep their aggro contained, rogues just get BOK or BOM to further out dps druid and all they need to do is one vanish (provided tank dont suck, and it isnt an aggro sensitive fight such as onyxia for example, wing buffets that bumps tank's aggro down) and its MAX dps all the way. and if ur gonna compare the pure raid dps rogue spec - combat daggers, the faster they swing, the more energy returns from offhand and that too, = more dps and more advantages to rogue over druid. not to mention rogue is the best class to stack haste ratings with since they can ultilize mongoose, (again, paws cant play with mongoose) and not to mention, DUAL mongoose which is 240 AGI and DOUBLE haste bonus AND combine with SND AND other haste effects. come on, its getting no brainer already.

of course, rogue is a class built solely to dps. they cant buff, they cant heal, and they take dmg too and rely on heals. druids can self heal, can tank, can PROVIDE other stuffs to the raid other than dps. rogue's value and role in the raid is only one - dps behind a mob.

I can't recall offhand and I think I log out in tanking gear. It's not a lot and the last I check while farming, I think I hit only 290 DPS but she's not geared in Kara gear or even Heroic epics. I've only just recently respec her from being Resto for a long time (and even then, she wasn't Kara raiding). One of the reasons I retired that Resto Druid was because I had problems keeping tanks up in Heroics pre 2.1 i.e. before the nerf. That was out of tree form. The Shadow Priest was more fun to play.

Postnote : hmm....come to think about it now, 290 DPS is probably not a good number as well since it's not a raid boss and it was attacking from the front.

This post has been edited by myremi: Sep 4 2007, 05:15 PM

correct me if im wrong but his question merely asks which class amongst feral druid and shadow priests dps more. not 1v1 pvp and who dps more. that the later question, which is how to beat a shadow priest 1v1 in pvp.

as for latency, unless ur fight is movement intensive, no latency will NOT affect much of your pve dps abilities so long ur around or under 500ish ms. it will affect, but not by a significant ammount, and to good dps'ers, it is almost as if theres not latency.

bear in mind, this is coming from a rogue's perspective:
why is it so? because the majority of rogue PVE raiding dps comes from WHITE ATTACKS. latency CANNOT affect white client side melee swings. all the rogue gotta do is build CP (via ss/mutilate/backstab) and maintain a SND cycle and you win. excess energy/CPs are spent on either rupture/envenom/eviscerate finishers.

also, sub 500 dps EVEN FOR A DRUID IN CAT is piss poor. a PROT tank can reach around 300-400+ which puts him just a bit more than a PROT TANK. avg good dps'ers at kara/gruul's level of gear sport around 600-900 dps AT LEAST. i myself maintain 900-1100 over a 5min sustained dps. (meaning its accurate, 900-1100 over the entire 5mins) and my pve gears still sport a lot of blues, and i never had the luxury to have enh shamans/feral druid or sometimes even warrior's bshout in my group.

and no, dps values are synoymous to damage done. unless ur counting dps under a 5-10 seconds value, and that is burst dmg, not actual dps. dps over a 5min sustained timer is the most accurate level to measure one's dmg value (dps). so if his value his high, his dmg done will no doubt automatically be high. unless of course, aoe fights are concerned.