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link the post here.... i'll then post on my main and start a flame train.

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and again
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Typical Wow forums goes like this:

TS: HAI GUYS!! I have problems with my drood dps.
Poster 1: FIRST!!
Poster 2: Nerf druids, seriously. They can tank and heal, now you want DPS?
Poster3 (pally): Ya, they have imba armor n hp and still can dps. My pally couldn't do both even we have 2 separate different spec for DPS n tank.
Poster4: Damn, this might be 9000+ post regarding druid dps in this forum.
Poster5: OH SHI-, ITS OVER NINE THOUSSSANNNDS!!!
Poster 6: Click here for more druid tips " www.asdgrcnt.cn/druiddps_keyloggerlol.php"
Poster 7: Dont click it, its a keylogger.
Poster 5: Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Poster 4: I have boomkin and i beat warlock, hunter and rogue dps consistently.
TS: I was asking for feral drood tips btw.
Poster 8 (rogue) : I hate you feral druids..ninjaing my leathers all the time.
Poster 9 (mage) : You guys need a nerf seriously. Look at me, im a mage, i supposed to be a main dps class in wow. So much for class balance, blizzard. GG
TS: Go back to your mage forums n QQ about it.
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This post has been edited by Goblinsk8er: Sep 11 2007, 06:10 PM

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Where's the obligatory L2P comment.

1) if ur 3v3 is amongst the top50 or so then it would matter. till then, the 5v5 matter more as it'll generate more points in less effort, and more points means easier gear acquiring. and gear, means a lot in your character performance. you dont expect to beat a 400 resil guy in just 200 resil, now do you?

2) you do realize that:
- bg9 is ONE bg
- 3 names out of the 4 names i mentioned are ALL in BG9 (hwarang is in EU WoW)
- its still 3v3? hello? even pandemic benched nitrana (#1 in BG9 3v3) for their 5v5
- 4dps setup isnt as friendly as you think because:
=you need either druid or paladin as a healer, preferably paladin, and a damn f***ing good one at that
=if enemy is smart, eg: the warrior, def stance + spell ref + BOP etc will stop your initial burst, and the strongest element of a 4dps team is burst. once thats taken away, you can kiss your 4dps goodbye.
=we are running a 4dps/3.5 dps setup atm, and i can assure you, its not as scrub friendly as you may think. especially in a latency handicapped enviroment. 3 dps 2 heal setup is much much more scrub friendly as it allows fights to be prolonged than the initial burst.
= again, paladin, is amongst the class ive mentioned as top4 class

3) you did noticed lock is amongst the top4 class i mentioned right? and in 2v2, you also realized warlocks are basically the best 1v1 class right? to some extent they can 1v2 easily. you may as well call it 2.5vs2 if ur team have a warlock already. and you know damn well 2v2/3v3 is based on rock paper scissors right? aka class imabalance. so for the most part the only thing that really matters is 5v5, and hunters/rogues suck badly at.

if ur gonna bring in why tournaments favor 3v3 more, ill fire this back at you, its simple, 5v5 is NOT fun to spectate. the main benefit of a tournament is spectators, and what the spectators favor, is what the tournament will favor as well, obviously.

4) you also realized dahis rerolled warr right? and nitrana rolled shaman, but got f***ed over by pandemic for it. and now he have no choice but to play back his rogue, only to get benched. thats #1 rogue for you, btw. and theres many others who rerolled. those who stayed (like me, being a rogue for over 2years++ and still going) just cling onto the very little faith that we have for our class. either that, or we just dont want to let everything go and reroll.

5) you also know they are low right? and you only know they are better in 2v2/3v3 right? (just like rogues) so what the hell ur trying to prove right there captain obvious? that a rock is a rock?

look, im not saying rogues are completely useless. i know i excel fighting caster based groups. but thats just it. and thats provided my latency dont f*** me over when im getting screwed over by frost mages/non-noob-locks that coex/priests that knows damn well how to kite a rogue (yes kiting rogues with priest, funny right?) while spamming instants/hots. and you yourself know they only do fine in 3v3 or below (assumption taken based on what ur emphasizing on), which is totally contradicting the point that im putting out: rogues suck in 5v5/high end arena.

TBC rogues do actually got a fresh restart in their class position. at some point i also admit its OVERPOWERED. but once high end arena kicks in with everyone over400+ resil, and the fact that rogues rely deeply on crits. they basically die off, along with hunters.

so captain obvious, less shooting urself in the foot now?

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Added on September 11, 2007, 11:31 pmthats one hunter.

im talking bout the majority

and you noticed that the world's best hunter (judging from ratings in ALL his arena teams, being basically #1 in 2v2/3v3/5v5 in his battlegroup constantly, and also attended quite a number of tournaments himself) hamchook is MM. and ultilizes in a very unique mana drain tactic with a scorpid that so MANY hunters followed his path.

MM hunters > surv for the most part because of silencing shot/better viper sting and multishot. that alone is more than enough to be favored over surv in most teams. silencing shot + priest silence (if you have s.priest) + mage CS + lock pet silence etc etc chained is a very brutal spell lockdown for any healer to coup with.

survial simply only offer DPS, that is VERY crit reliant, and resilience is built to counter crit.

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Added on September 11, 2007, 11:34 pmhi captain obvious on a wheelchair, less obvious and more paragraph will ya? and why isnt this thread closed when you said it is? more self shooting alright?

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Added on September 11, 2007, 11:35 pmomg less stealing my thunder prz!

btw thats a nice quote, <3.

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Added on September 11, 2007, 11:45 pmgood one, but as sets/ray mentioned, its lacking and hence forth:

FAIL

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 11 2007, 11:45 PM

1. it still wont generate more points if ur 5v5 rating is lower than 3v3 or even 2v2,sorry
and you dont need 2.5k 5v5 rating to get full arena sets+weapon in a season.
less effort?!?Finding 5 good teammate and lineup you want is easy as hell am i right?200res beating 400 res?well depends.
and if you start playing arena since season1,u now should have atlease 300res and arena weapon even if you have really shitty rating.

2.sorry i dont get it ...whats your point?You should Know BG9 is top battlegroup right now.
They benched nitrana because they are not running a 4dps setup or whatever lineup with a rogue and at that time,no one was thinking 4dps is a good choice.Most importantly thier 5v5 leader is Noktyn,of course he will run a setup is base on him.
actually a druid is better suited into 4dps lineup since druid can:
A:cyclone,feral charge,bash
B:you can only counterspell a good druid when he casting cyclone...and most of his healing abilty is instant cast.(ok dont say dispell druid HoT lol,you wont have time for it)
paladin advantage:
A:bof
B:bubble heal for 12 sec
disadvantage:
Cot,fear,counterspell,silence and blah blah blah

war's def stance + spell ref + BOP etc will stop 4dps initial burst?Yeah talk is easy, and no sorry you still cant stop them from killing your war with only spell ref+bop,unless you are running a gimped version 4dps setup.example..using hunter,using holy priest as healer.

3.Yeah sure warlock is imbalance and they are king of 2v2 3v3,but that dosent mean rogue is shitty which u mentioned in ur preview post.

4...............wow,you are as gay as ming.
Not every ppl reroll because thinking another classes is better,ok?theres many reason behind it that you dunno me dunno and Ming Fuking dunno either.

5.oh boy,because there are not many top restore druid out there,dosent mean they are shitty healer(5v5 or not) in arena ok?they are doing fine in 5v5 either.

Okok i know i know,playing a mutilate rogue is so hard,so why dont you try out combat mace?Buying a 1h Mace instead of buying another 1.8speed dagger as offhand so ur mutilate offhand damage can hit for 50 more damage?I must admit you are smart,but making a decision like this is really ...lol

Its latency(or your teammate) fuk over you not rogue classes.And no rogue are doing fine in 5v5 either,just like warlock spri and druid,they just have more classes setup choice in 3v3 2v2.
not only rogue rely on critical ,warrior mage shaman too,
so why dont you change a spec that dont rely on critical?


So your point is "rogue sux at 5v5 ,and 5v5 is the only thing that matter." right?
Since you are saying 5v5 take less effort,why dont you try form up a real 4dps team and stop crying ?

This post has been edited by eternallove: Sep 12 2007, 07:51 AM

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This post has been edited by sets84: Sep 12 2007, 09:48 AM

1) first off:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...ale&n=Quazacolt

with about 140ratings additional than my 5v5, my 3v3 only lose 10 arena points than my 5v5, but getting plague by class matrix and rock paper scissors factor, 5v5 is definitely a LOT easier to play AND gain ratings(and ultimately arena points) at the same time.

oh quote: it still wont generate more points if ur 5v5 rating is lower than 3v3 or even 2v2,sorry
im 140 points, and YES LOWER than my 3v3, oops, i got 10 more arena points than 3v3. wtf? BLASPHEMY?!?!?!?!

while you dont need a buttload of arena points to get full set arena gears and all, but the more points you have, the bette rur chance for you to end a high rank at the end of the season. you cant possibly be decked out right at the start

and if you refered to my armory link, im pretty decently geared thank you. but thats me, what about my teammates? my guildies? or other people that rerolled, started mid-season? tell em to qqmore l2p? pretty sure there are other players out there that actually require the high AP/week, be it reroll, or respeccing different spec (eg:druids) and so on, they do exist.

sure, you cant 5 good teammates and have the best possible lineup (paladin/warrior/warlock/priest/x). but letme give you this comparison:
getting 4monkeys + you and lose 10 games/week in 5v5, or getting 2 actually good players, to actually win in 3v3, im sure, getting 4 monkeys are much MUCH easier.

2) point is simple, that is merely one bg, and its a top bg at that. and thats where most, if not ALL of the top roguesgathered. outside of that bg, rogues that end up with high rankings in 3v3 needless to say 5v5 is so few or even non-existant.

and to ur beloved 4dps setup:
http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/World-of-Min...al-Goes-Insane/
http://www.radikalnoise.com/2007/09/my-trip-to-7-11.html (for some lols)

just FYI, noktyn is actually runnin a 4dps setup, and another FYI, nitrana is still on the bench. and guess who their 4dps setup is with? nope, no rogue.
www.wowarmory.com
^ look it up if you dont believe

A) yea, try cast cyclone as a single healer where NO ONE will silence/interrupt you. and when ur in bear, you cant heal, and ur the only healer. really, smart, right? and whats to stop OTHER team from cycloning ur druid? lol?
B) lol wait, you can only counterspell a GOOD druid, you meant bad druid... right? ROFL and bear in mind, hots take time, AND can be dispelled, why dont you have time to dispel hots? elaborate more? 1-1.5seconds gcd isnt hard if ur team have elem shams (which doesnt heals), resto shams or priests for mass dispels/instant dispels. oh, felpuppies find magics particularly tasty too, not to mention mages that could probably use some heals.

and dont forget to list down:
plate, BOP, cleanse that works on everything cept curses.

and druids are also susceptible to cot (you think JUST hots can last you through everything? how naive. oh yea, cyclone apparently dont need cast time?) fear, counterspell (same case for COT), silence (same case for COT) and blah blah blah (lolwut?)

and here you are, also talking, way to contradict urself? it MAY or MAY NOT stop a 4dps killing ur warrior, but it sure as hell will buy time and usually enough time, for his team to counter. by either taking one of the 4dps team along with him to the grave, if that makes the healer, that said team is in for some trouble.

3) and here you are being captain obvious and shooting urself in the foot (yet again), stop beating the dead horse please?

4) so... they posting on their blogs/websites etc on the reasons they reroll to another class (at least the names ive mentioned which is dahis/nitrana) means we dunno right? (im sure you have some wierd perception in regards to this but ill leave it at that) and why bring in ming to the picture? hugging his epeens already? not to mention being irrelevant.

5) and anywhere in my post mentioning druids being shitty healers? i bet not. so now ur putting words into my mouth?

and no, playing mutilate rogue isnt any harder than playing combat/hemo rogues. (hard to believe right?)
and no, if you've ever been researching rogues (rogue forums/spreadsheet simulations), its not just a minor 50 dmg increase, its give or take 100-300 dmg increase (assuming ur target is 300-400 resil), and any targets less than the resilience i quote, will have a much higher dmg increase.
run your research/spreadsheets nextime before you try to talk shit ok?

that said, i will be having s3 shiv instead of shanker next season, reason for that is because im i need quicker crippling poisons and mongoose proc, which i am willing to ditch the dmg increase. (my current shanker is weapon chain equipped instead of mongoose, despite what stupid armory says, which is also another reason why shanker > shiv)
another FYI, one of my high dmg source is also from my trinket cb muti, and its also a good source of burst even on high resil target. on 0 resil targets it can hit for around 4-5k, on post 400 resil targets it can hit between 1.5-3k. should i have a shiv instead of a shanker, i can guarantee you ill be losing perhaps 300-700++ of said burst dmg.

so for you to make a remark like this, is really... lol. back in your face.

and no, they are definitely not doing fine, at least when compared to the top 4 classes. for you to even say that means you have a severe lack of understanding of the situation.

also, have you been hit by a skillherald warrior before? and yes, hit, not crit. sure, they do need crits too, but they sure as hell can live without it, while classes like hunters and rogues, being unable to crit is basically laughing stock. (lol hemo)
and no, there is no rogue spec that dont rely on crit, if you even dare bring in combat spec, ill first LOL at you for that. a ss crit/white crit will always be a ton of help compared to non-crits. and arush is only a 15 sec burst. if that said 15 sec burst you cant kill the target, ur gonna be a joke (look at the 2v2 with xecks vs neilyo, i lol'ed at the dps)

and simply stating that 4dps setup is the only way for rogues are already contradicting urself that they are doing fine. as rogues are restricted to a particular team setup to actually work.

as for the crying part, i can assure you, im pretty much doing fine. not particularly successful, but definitely not a failure enough to cry. if you consider this crying, i would suggest that you start sending mails/pms to all the top rogues in bg9 to tell them to stop crying, for their suggestions/opinions/critisms etc being tossed around by FAR exceeds mine. dont forget to letme know the result, i wanna see their response.

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Added on September 12, 2007, 12:09 pm

lolwut?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 12 2007, 12:09 PM

Hmm...we should get people angry more often on LYN. More information comes out.

actually, zecks is back to playing a rogue in competitive 5v5 and is doing quite well i heard. one of the top teams in bg9.

i concur

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Added on September 12, 2007, 2:50 pmand the entire rogue community = xecks right?
its like saying warriors arent overpowered when jared "donut-muncher-noktyn" got owned by rogues in arenas/duels (yes, many videos recorded just to laugh at the chubby)
or when a warlock got wtfpwned by a rogue that clearly outskilled the b**** and claim locks are not overpowered (if you agree to this please do urself, god, and everyone on lyn WoW forum a favor and shoot urself in the face now)
or when rogues like xecks/nitrana etc, or hunters like hamchook actually stands out and claim rogues are fine l2p.

look at how many warriors/priests/paladins/warlocks stand out, as opposed to the handful of rogues/hunters. thats the main point of issue right here.

read clearly what ive posted in my post, thoroughly. but since ur prolly lazy like almost everybody else, heres some spoonfeeding from ur own quote:


xecks himself also expressed his suggestions/concerns over rogue forums, and blogs, so again, your point?

=edit=
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...ondrius&n=Xecks
O SHI-

I OWN XECKS ON 3V3??!?!?!WHATTTTTTTT
^ lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 12 2007, 03:07 PM

This is officially Quazacolt's PVP e-peen thread

damn straight lol

my e-peen brings all the fags to my vent, they are like bigger than yours... i can teach you but i have to charge

mine bigger!

u must have mistaken me with the eternalsomething poster. actually, im saying what im saying. like zecks, if u enjoy playing ur class, don't let class imba issues stop u from having fun n pwning up the arena scene. prove the conformists wrong.

The strengths of Warlocks in solo play, world pvp, group pvp, instance utility and raid dps should be the norm for all classes. I'd rather Blizzard buff all the other classes (hi Shaman pls) so that each class brings unique and top notch offerings into each and every situation. Blizzard should work on common complaints, like "pure healer specs unable to solo farm/pvp" and/or "I have 0 utility in raid settings" no matter what class+spec combo you are. The recent blue announcement that they are looking into converting pure +heal stats to give some percentage of spell damage is a good sign.

Personally, I think Warlocks are perfect now, it is the other classes that needs to be buffed. Whenever I play my different characters, I wish they are as powerful as the Warlock, not for the Warlock to be as weak as the other characters.

This post has been edited by ray123: Sep 12 2007, 06:06 PM

enjoying my class is just half the deal, winning is the other. and bullshits like this is keeping me from winning. and there isnt much to prove, unless ur an ignorant fool, almost every top arena player know where the 9 classes stand, the top 4 obvious ones, and on equal mage/sham/druid, and the loser classes - rogue/hunter.

the only thing that needs proving are to those the likes of eternalsomething (lol), which are so ignorant that they'd wouldnt ever accept the truth despite not having a rogue/hunter to pvp of his own to suffer the same fate (assumingly so, as he doesnt understand jack of how the cruel pvp world works. and afaik he didnt post his wow armory profile anywhere, could be wrong though)

probably the only solace id have is pwning noobs, and thats what the rogue is prolly best for. nothing beats mutilating 0 resil nubs that can socre 4-5k without berserking, and with zerking it can go well beyond 5k ish. and the few occassions, like that other day on wsg, theres this 3 rogues running around gankin people together, i happen to get caught in riding my mount towards midfield. the fight ended with my having 900 hp and all 3 of them on the floor. i lol'ed. then i ate their corpses and bandaged, 1 rogue that rez'ed early came for me, he ended up on the floor too. i lol'ed more.

yea, just like how resilience is f***ing over me, my 447 resilience is f***ing over them. irony isnt it?

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Added on September 12, 2007, 6:15 pmi actually wish for the other way around. its easier to tune one class than 8 others. also, imagine all 8 other classes being as strong at the lock... omg back to the world of 1-2-3 shotting? (pre bc, with tbc talents...i pretty much lolpwn everyone with my dual HWL daggers with mutilate lol)
or healers being like... f***ing jesus incarnate (no offense to those who are religious, srsly) himself being like some immortal pouring heals out like nobody's business.

very ugly imo

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 12 2007, 06:15 PM

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