Biar betik Clause 7 ... legal ke clause ni?

huh u guys never heard of such contracts apart from this?

if u quit before xx years then u need to compensate xxk amount because of the training provided.
I heard if they want to enforce it they need to prove that the training provided is indeed worth that much. which is a little hard to prove , and also usually training isnt really worth that much anyway, which course costs 1 year employee salary??

also, They cannot use it to penalize you, but can recoup costs incurred to train you etc . please correct me any lawyers?

I feel Ipohmali has downloaded the offer letter and incorporating clause 7 into his future offer letters to interns

That one usually applies on study contract, further studies, advancement certificate stuff and it's separate contract to sign one. Not bind in offer letter, employment letter.

Simple task also cannot do. Clock in clock out pun fail. Bodo deserve it

Simple task also cannot do. Clock in clock out pun fail. Bodo deserve it

I worked there for 2 months about 10 years ago. HR called me to offer me the jobs 1-2 days after the interview. I accepted the jobs and request for offer letter before tender resignation. She said ok and my offer will be ready in few days. So I drive up to Ipoh to pick up the letter on following week. I am surprise to learn that they only provide me with simple 1 page letter (but didn't think too much) and will only provide another official letter when I report to work. Anyway, I accepted the job because I am desperate situation.
So, I resign from company in KL and move up to Ipoh. HR required me to sign Letter of appointment on the first day with the term that shock me. But I am in situation where I resigned from company in KL, move to Ipoh and rent the house. So I have no choice but to sign the letter. I didn't work with the son and daughter. I remember the second man in the company at that time was Reuben Poh, a relative from wife side. (BP stand for Beh & Poh). I didn't clash with anyone, but I saw myself all the horribly thing that people mentioned in this forum. I left the company after 2 months and they threaten to sue me to compensate them 6 months’ salary because of clause 7 on the letter of appointment.
It was 10 years ago but I still feel obligate to expose them so other didn't fall into the trap. So I upload the offer letter and letter of appointment that they require all employee to sign.
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Initially was sympathetic towards them for losing a child. Nobody hopes such tragedy to befall on anyone.

However now I know why many people have no good words towards this Chinaman company. That clause 7 really unfair and a modern day slavery. This is truly a Chinaman company. Taking advantage of people's desperation, and being vague until people "upcar" or siong cheh in Cantonese. Meaning conned people to join their company.

I wonder how many they have conned and succeeded in milking money out of desperate people ..

Okay. Will boycott BP lab from now on.

huh u guys never heard of such contracts apart from this?

if u quit before xx years then u need to compensate xxk amount because of the training provided.
I heard if they want to enforce it they need to prove that the training provided is indeed worth that much. which is a little hard to prove , and also usually training isnt really worth that much anyway, which course costs 1 year employee salary??

also, They cannot use it to penalize you, but can recoup costs incurred to train you etc . please correct me any lawyers?

I joined 2 American companies after left BP. First company given 2 months sign on bonus, mean I get 2 bunos once accept the offer. The sign on bonus was bank in to my account together with first month salary. That is 12 months condition attached to the sign on bonus. So if resign after 6 months then I need to return 1 month sign on bonus back to company. I think this fair.

Second American company sent me to Ireland for 3 months training. Business class flight to Ireland plus fantastic accommodation. That is 1 year bond for the training. So if company spent total 120K for my trip to Ireland and I resign after 11 months then I need to pay back 10K. This is also fair.

Clause 7 on BP letter is slavery

I joined 2 American companies after left BP. First company given 2 months sign on bonus, mean I get 2 bunos once accept the offer. The sign on bonus was bank in to my account together with first month salary. That is 12 months condition attached to the sign on bonus. So if resign after 6 months then I need to return 1 month sign on bonus back to company. I think this fair.

Second American company sent me to Ireland for 3 months training. Business class flight to Ireland plus fantastic accommodation. That is 1 year bond for the training. So if company spent total 120K for my trip to Ireland and I resign after 11 months then I need to pay back 10K. This is also fair.

Clause 7 on BP letter is slavery

huh u guys never heard of such contracts apart from this?

if u quit before xx years then u need to compensate xxk amount because of the training provided.
I heard if they want to enforce it they need to prove that the training provided is indeed worth that much. which is a little hard to prove , and also usually training isnt really worth that much anyway, which course costs 1 year employee salary??

also, They cannot use it to penalize you, but can recoup costs incurred to train you etc . please correct me any lawyers?

regardless its the same intention. which is to bind you because they invested in you.
so im quite surprised that people seem to look at it like a rare pokemon
although whether legally enforceable or not im not sure. because its quite unfair, you train someone so that he can do the job better. plus, what kind of training costs 1 year of an employee's pay? if its that expensive then the employee pay should be high pay not pay someone 2k but ask him to attend a 24k course , doesnt make sense. 

unless he really kns , quit immediately upon completing the training, e.g company sponsor external paper but you cabut after getting it using company money. on the other hand, actually your company already benefitted a bit because when you are studying for external papr you can apply the knowledge to your work already.

any HR or lawyer got experience dealing with the above?

shows how much the staff is valued..

wtf is 7b?

so if joined and got confirmation, if resign, need to pay back everything since the start?
like this if joined then must work till death in the company?