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post Jan 6 2021, 09:48 PM, updated 5y ago

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - Present] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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2020's Summer Ins and Outs

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In
Odion Ighalo (Shanghai Shenhua) Loan
Donny van de Beek (Ajax)
Edison Cavani - Free Agent

Out
Cameron Borthwick-Jackson (Released)
Dion McGee (Released)
Angel Gomes (Released)
Ethan Hamilton (Released)
Michael O'Hara (Released)
Largie Ramazani (Released)
George Tanner (Released)
Alexis Sanchez (Inter Milan)
Tahith Chong (Werder Bremen) Loan
Aliou Traore (Caen) Loan
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Marcus Rashford the most expensive player £166million

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this morning got live?
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 6 2021, 09:57 PM)
Marcus Rashford the most expensive player £166million

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Huh, we got 3/4 players most expensive. So can win every trophy la?
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so little? that mino commission more than him
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City own goal but offside zzz
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City defence has been solid, our leaky. Has to be clinical...
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I feel sleepy... hard to watch this..
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shaw too slow making decision. all of them need to focus and pass more accurately.
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Jogba Bruno if compare vs Aston, poor. Keep misplace pass zzz. Need on top form if want win this cup

Awb banyak weak link.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 7 2021, 04:36 AM)
Jogba Bruno if compare vs Aston, poor. Keep misplace pass zzz. Need on top form if want win this cup

Awb banyak weak link.
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the problem with awb is his defending style. he stay too far away from his target and was exposed when against Leipzig. mctominay also jog like pogba. the middle part of the field sometimes empty and he slowly jogging back to defend from someone shooting outside the box.
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Without Baily, United can't push forward more with either Shaw and Wan Bissaka reserved to stay at the back.

The option for Pogba or Bruno to pass is limited
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the way we are playing, we need very sharp in final third. jogba and bruno not supplying that, especially jogba.
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maguire... always sleeping always slow.
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Lindelof let the ball through.. ok now time to sleep.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jan 7 2021, 04:55 AM)
Lindelof let the ball through.. ok now time to sleep.
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I thought is maguire
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lindelof cant reach it but mf maguire sleeping . where is his defending instinct ?
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 7 2021, 04:57 AM)
lindelof cant reach it but mf maguire sleeping . where is his defending instinct ?
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u mean turn around and look at ref to raise flag again? doh.gif that is his instinct
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Hari hari head corner wide maguire. See also bengang
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martial really useless. cant do anything right.
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R I P - GG

MC fast pace players. And OGS decide to put Maguire + Lindelof LOL.



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stone havent score for 3 years
fernandinho havent score for 2years, both score today... hahaha
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Kelong in semi again
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OGS
Semi final only
Pogba back to his best
Being useless

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And OGS bring the scapegoat in.

ROFL
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united need to find someone to replace Martial. thats one step forward for the team.

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 7 2021, 05:29 AM)
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Pogba back to his best
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Ya. Waste of space. Frustrating when important match, all plays like shit, except rashford maybe. Even Bruno not on top form.
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Citeh fast pace.

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maguire shit defending and even worse header. so many chances to score goal with his head throughout his playing time but miss so many times. whats the point being tall ?
mctominay lazy defending. he always jogging. first goal also caused by him
pogba not functioning. if he going to be inconsistent than might as well let him go.
bruno cant keep his temper down and focus when things not going as planned.
rashford always waste so many chances. his decision making when playing makes him look like a dumb person.
martial is absolute garbage. his movements, touch, dribbling and passing really shit. he slowing the tempo and position himself where his teammates cant pass the ball to him. even foden outclassed him. a liability and need to be replaced. get a right winger and play greenwood as centre forward.








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This is our actual level vs City. Home some more. Now you know why I don't rate our team & Ole that high. Its just a moment of opportunity that they (Pool, City) are down.

Comical defending again.

Thrustless attack (again).

Miles behind.
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Come to think of it,
has Ole ever won any trophy as manager?
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Come to think of it,
has Ole ever won any trophy as manager?
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Bodoh gila. This is a must win game as city is crippled with covid and we lost? Wtf. You can say goodbye to the league like this. It’s either pool or city.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 7 2021, 09:20 AM)
Bodoh gila. This is a must win game as city is crippled with covid and we lost? Wtf. You can say goodbye to the league like this. It’s either pool or city.
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he already fielded lindelof already. so ppl can blame lindelof liao tongue.gif
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Losing against City isn't a big deal for me.
They are the more complete team even with players out from Covid while we are still building ours.

The worrying part is how we approached the game. Bruno has not gotten any rest and it is only Jan. I would be worried that Ole does not know how to plan games without him.

VDB got 2 minutes today. 2 minutes in a Cup game. He is literally the freshest midfielder we have and he spends most of the game on the bench. Literally Ole sending a message to Woodward, you bought a player I don't need.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 09:35 AM)
Losing against City isn't a big deal for me.
They are the more complete team even with players out from Covid while we are still building ours.

The worrying part is how we approached the game. Bruno has not gotten any rest and it is only Jan. I would be worried that Ole does not know how to plan games without him.

VDB got 2 minutes today. 2 minutes in a Cup game. He is literally the freshest midfielder we have and he spends most of the game on the bench. Literally Ole sending a message to Woodward, you bought a player I don't need.
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counter game plan and play bruno plan? dont know why wan to start most of the first team but no bailley. then vdb in 87 mins. wan force him out?
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 09:35 AM)
Losing against City isn't a big deal for me.
They are the more complete team even with players out from Covid while we are still building ours.

The worrying part is how we approached the game. Bruno has not gotten any rest and it is only Jan. I would be worried that Ole does not know how to plan games without him.

VDB got 2 minutes today. 2 minutes in a Cup game. He is literally the freshest midfielder we have and he spends most of the game on the bench. Literally Ole sending a message to Woodward, you bought a player I don't need.
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TBH I don't see VDB has reach the kind of standard like Bruno, Pogba, Fred and Matic, we can see it from the games which he played on it. He can't play like Bruno in no.10, he can't play like Fred/Matic in no.6, the most suited place for him is no.8 currently.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 7 2021, 09:20 AM)
Bodoh gila. This is a must win game as city is crippled with covid and we lost? Wtf. You can say goodbye to the league like this. It’s either pool or city.
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its a no brainer. pep knows ole the clueless will just sit deep and hit on the break so he just swarm the midfields and dominate that area. the person who can break this setup is Donny Van de Beek, because of his quick link-up 1-2 passes, plays him in that deep role will forced pep to change his tactics. but ole is just ole.

ole ole ole ole

we are in the title race guys!
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Haha its mickey cup

Lose tak apa

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Field his strongest 11. Win 2 games can win a cup. It's not nothing to the team. Pep played to ole weakness, no rush, pull united players up high and hit, making the team tired by chasing the ball.

Our next game in 3 days and all the players are tired like hell after these sort of big games. Mentally and physically.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 7 2021, 10:01 AM)
TBH I don't see VDB has reach the kind of standard like Bruno, Pogba, Fred and Matic, we can see it from the games which he played on it. He can't play like Bruno in no.10, he can't play like Fred/Matic in no.6, the most suited place for him is no.8 currently.
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how can you see if he doesnt play.. 2mins doesnt count... i think his role is more like herrera role. keep the balll moving fast. he has shown that in his previous games for us.. 2 months ago? no need to do all the killer key passes. but keep the ball moving fast and box to box running. a good 8 but we must accomodate the wc winner pogba.
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Ole is only a 'semi' pro manager.

too much depending on BF ..
& he don't trust other players
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When ole trust jogba, he disappoint more than deliver. He starts cause he is expected to be good like Aston game. Miles worse than what he can perform.

Maguire no need say. Already expected poor as always. Lazy defending to let ball pass him and hope nothing happen.

City is slick. Looks strong contender for title. They produce A game
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#OleOut

its a no brainer. pep knows ole the clueless will just sit deep and hit on the break so he just swarm the midfields and dominate that area. the person who can break this setup is Donny Van de Beek, because of his quick link-up 1-2 passes, plays him in that deep role will forced pep to change his tactics. but ole is just ole.

ole ole ole ole

we are in the title race guys!
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it is clear that those players need some rest.. and other players need some game time to get their match sharpness on..

Ole dont have a gameplay system and only relying on individual brilliance.. this match is another example when the players too tired to produce those moments of individual brilliance
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 7 2021, 10:37 AM)
When ole trust jogba, he disappoint more than deliver. He starts cause he is expected to be good like Aston game. Miles worse than what he can perform.

Maguire no need say. Already expected poor as always. Lazy defending to let ball pass him and hope nothing happen.

City is slick. Looks strong contender for title. They produce A game
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Maguire let go so many ball in his United career. his brain really not working.

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I thought is maguire
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Maguire ka? I was sleepy. I only see Lindy didn't raise foot high enough to intercept the ball...
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Maguire ka? I was sleepy. I only see Lindy didn't raise foot high enough to intercept the ball...
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Look at the replay. Maguire just watches the ball fizz past him, like he's afraid to touch it and score an own goal. Maguire does not like touching crosses if it comes in between him and the goal. Not the first time.

Both fullbacks tucking in again because of the slow Maguire - Lindelof pairing.

Don't blame the players. No excuses.
This one is squarely on Ole.
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ole back to late subs

seriously wat he expect put VDB wt 2 min left
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jan 7 2021, 01:45 PM)
ole back to late subs

seriously wat he expect put VDB wt 2 min left
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It is not time to be Ole out. On the back of one game, just no. Ole until the end of the season. We give our managers a chance.
At the same time, it is not the time to be giving Ole a new contract. Wait until the end of the season.
This is Woodward and management being retarded by talking about Ole's contract. It was like Mou's last season where we didn't back him in transfers, gave him a new contract and then fired him later in the season.

The loss belongs squarely on Ole. I hope he learns.

The Maguire - Lindelof pairing means our defence line was going to be sitting deep. Look at the distance between our CBs and our striker. It is shorter and more compact when Bailly is playing because he is quick, it is deeper this game because our CBs are terrified of a ball over the top and starting a foot race. Don't blame the Mc-Fred combo. They got pulled all over the park. The CBs sat so deep with nobody to mark meant that City had lots of space to play in front of the defence. That meant a lof of space behind Mc-Fred, and a lot of space in front of them. They got played with triangles all game long. Don't blame our attackers, they barely got any supply. Bruno looked tired.

Let me just say the first goal is on f*cking Maguire. It may be Luke Shaw's man scoring, but Shaw was just as shocked as all of us that Maguire just let that ball go. The ball literally bounced in front of Maguire's foot and he was terrified to touch it. Like if he does and risks an own goal, he will be the new Phil Jones.

Ole's poorest atttribute is match management. He doesn't know what to do if things goes south.
We saw it against RB Leipzig where he started a back 5 protected with a double pivot. We conceded 2 goals in under 15 minutes, and he does nothing to change either the defensive setup nor the positioning until deep into the 2nd half. Ultimately, we ran out of time because the change came too late.

We see it again here. Our midfield has no hold on the game, and City scores in the 50th minute. We have 40 minutes to try get a result. What does Ole do? He waits until the 75th minute to make his first change. And only uses sub 2 out of 5 in the 88th minute, that's it. Our midfield could not hold on to the ball, he could've put VDB in there to rectify that. But he goes and plays VDB for the last 2 minutes. 2 minutes, is he taking the piss?

We lost here because of the tactics put by Ole. He chose 2 slow CBs again, and this made Mc-Fred's task impossible. When we go down, he has no answers.
He needs to learn.

Again, not Ole out. But we need to recognize the source of a bad performance when we see one, and this one is all Ole.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 02:13 PM)
It is not time to be Ole out. On the back of one game, just no. Ole until the end of the season. We give our managers a chance.
At the same time, it is not the time to be giving Ole a new contract. Wait until the end of the season.
This is Woodward and management being retarded by talking about Ole's contract. It was like Mou's last season where we didn't back him in transfers, gave him a new contract and then fired him later in the season.

The loss belongs squarely on Ole. I hope he learns.

The Maguire - Lindelof pairing means our defence line was going to be sitting deep. Look at the distance between our CBs and our striker. It is shorter and more compact when Bailly is playing because he is quick, it is deeper this game because our CBs are terrified of a ball over the top and starting a foot race. Don't blame the Mc-Fred combo. They got pulled all over the park. The CBs sat so deep with nobody to mark meant that City had lots of space to play in front of the defence. That meant a lof of space behind Mc-Fred, and a lot of space in front of them. They got played with triangles all game long. Don't blame our attackers, they barely got any supply. Bruno looked tired.

Let me just say the first goal is on f*cking Maguire. It may be Luke Shaw's man scoring, but Shaw was just as shocked as all of us that Maguire just let that ball go. The ball literally bounced in front of Maguire's foot and he was terrified to touch it. Like if he does and risks an own goal, he will be the new Phil Jones.

Ole's poorest atttribute is match management. He doesn't know what to do if things goes south.
We saw it against RB Leipzig where he started a back 5 protected with a double pivot. We conceded 2 goals in under 15 minutes, and he does nothing to change either the defensive setup nor the positioning until deep into the 2nd half. Ultimately, we ran out of time because the change came too late.

We see it again here. Our midfield has no hold on the game, and City scores in the 50th minute. We have 40 minutes to try get a result. What does Ole do? He waits until the 75th minute to make his first change. And only uses sub 2 out of 5 in the 88th minute, that's it. Our midfield could not hold on to the ball, he could've put VDB in there to rectify that. But he goes and plays VDB for the last 2 minutes. 2 minutes, is he taking the piss?

We lost here because of the tactics put by Ole. He chose 2 slow CBs again, and this made Mc-Fred's task impossible. When we go down, he has no answers.
He needs to learn.

Again, not Ole out. But we need to recognize the source of a bad performance when we see one, and this one is all Ole.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 02:13 PM)
It is not time to be Ole out. On the back of one game, just no. Ole until the end of the season. We give our managers a chance.
At the same time, it is not the time to be giving Ole a new contract. Wait until the end of the season.
This is Woodward and management being retarded by talking about Ole's contract. It was like Mou's last season where we didn't back him in transfers, gave him a new contract and then fired him later in the season.

The loss belongs squarely on Ole. I hope he learns.

The Maguire - Lindelof pairing means our defence line was going to be sitting deep. Look at the distance between our CBs and our striker. It is shorter and more compact when Bailly is playing because he is quick, it is deeper this game because our CBs are terrified of a ball over the top and starting a foot race. Don't blame the Mc-Fred combo. They got pulled all over the park. The CBs sat so deep with nobody to mark meant that City had lots of space to play in front of the defence. That meant a lof of space behind Mc-Fred, and a lot of space in front of them. They got played with triangles all game long. Don't blame our attackers, they barely got any supply. Bruno looked tired.

Let me just say the first goal is on f*cking Maguire. It may be Luke Shaw's man scoring, but Shaw was just as shocked as all of us that Maguire just let that ball go. The ball literally bounced in front of Maguire's foot and he was terrified to touch it. Like if he does and risks an own goal, he will be the new Phil Jones.

Ole's poorest atttribute is match management. He doesn't know what to do if things goes south.
We saw it against RB Leipzig where he started a back 5 protected with a double pivot. We conceded 2 goals in under 15 minutes, and he does nothing to change either the defensive setup nor the positioning until deep into the 2nd half. Ultimately, we ran out of time because the change came too late.

We see it again here. Our midfield has no hold on the game, and City scores in the 50th minute. We have 40 minutes to try get a result. What does Ole do? He waits until the 75th minute to make his first change. And only uses sub 2 out of 5 in the 88th minute, that's it. Our midfield could not hold on to the ball, he could've put VDB in there to rectify that. But he goes and plays VDB for the last 2 minutes. 2 minutes, is he taking the piss?

We lost here because of the tactics put by Ole. He chose 2 slow CBs again, and this made Mc-Fred's task impossible. When we go down, he has no answers.
He needs to learn.

Again, not Ole out. But we need to recognize the source of a bad performance when we see one, and this one is all Ole.
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Pogba tak patut ada..that’s all..maguire?rehat kan je 2-3-4-5 game..

Pogba biggest problem is attitude..hurrmmmm..great player tapi cancer..

It’s better with vdb and Bruno imo

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 7 2021, 01:31 PM)
Look at the replay. Maguire just watches the ball fizz past him, like he's afraid to touch it and score an own goal. Maguire does not like touching crosses if it comes in between him and the goal. Not the first time.

Both fullbacks tucking in again because of the slow Maguire - Lindelof pairing.

Don't blame the players. No excuses.
This one is squarely on Ole.
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yeah, it's like he afraid of own goal. can't blame lindeloft, he tried clear but fail. judging from this season, lindeloft is better than maguire. again another 80M pressure to play him just like jogba. there's a time maguire venture until rashford position, while all the mids behind him. really what he thinking ah.

first half is kinda balance though city hold the upper hand. if jogba and bruno more slick final passing, we can create a few clear cut chance on our own. bruno off game is acceptable, his off game is like 20% of the time. but jogba? almost like 50-60% of the game he played. we actually supplied nothing to forward once jogba pair with fred and mctominay out and greenwood in.

vdb in last 2 mins is speechless haha. i don't think ole think he can turn it around with this sub, if he things so, he is crazy. but it's just weird for vdb, fans, and himself. but then if 2 mins pun tak ada main, vdb maybe feel worse? lol. something must be wrong in vdb that his minutes is getting less and less. really no idea lol.

suddenly i thought fergie days, we use reserve team to play mickeymouse cup for experience. jlingz. now we need full guns blazing and still fail. kesian.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 7 2021, 10:17 AM)
how can you see if he doesnt play.. 2mins doesnt count... i think his role is more like herrera role. keep the balll moving fast. he has shown that in his previous games for us.. 2 months ago? no need to do all the killer key passes. but keep the ball moving fast and box to box running. a good 8 but we must accomodate the wc winner pogba.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 7 2021, 04:16 PM)
Next game FA cup against Watford he will have his playing time, i think it is time to rest Bruno and Martial.
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hopefully can see vdb start and play 90 mins... and cavani will complete his 3 games ban?
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For the FA Cup game against Watford, I really want to see Bruno rested. Give some of the players a chance to play like VDB.

If Bruno starts against Watford, I'm gonna flip.
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Walao. 10 covid positive for aston first team. And we just played with them
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Walao. 10 covid positive for aston first team. And we just played with them
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Players do test twice a week now. It is already a week since AV match, should be okay I think.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/1814863

In the end, it is Pellistri who even not on the bench that day has tested positive.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/spo...listri-19585831

It is a waste, he should had high chance to play as a sub.
If like this VDB also not getting playing time, he really should leave at least on loan, shouldn't let OGS ruin him.

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"It took Jose Mourinho 14 months to get Spurs to a cup final

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been here for 25 months and still no sign."
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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been here for 25 months and still no sign."
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Cup final tapi tak menang sama je

Anyway u seriously want to equate City with Brentford?
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The best plan is to identify the replacement right now, and regardless of position (let’s face it, we ain’t gonna win the league this season), and replace Ole at the end of season. That should give the new manager some time and 1 window to work out an improvement plan. Otherwise we will sing the same transition song, challenge for league song, bla bla bla.

Ole HAS improved the team, since Mou. We are better than when we sacked Mou for sure. And for that we can thank Ole. But we are far from Liverpool and far from MC, right back where we started since Fergie left. And be it tactics, formations or even player selection and player signing, we are still all 2nd grade.

Unless of course that is the plan all along, to just end up in top 4 every year. Which I guarantee you, I will stop watching altogether.
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QUOTE(tohff7 @ Jan 9 2021, 09:18 PM)
Cup final tapi tak menang sama je

Anyway u seriously want to equate City with Brentford?
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Why not, a final is a final. It's getting to the the final game. Crossing the line is another hurdle after that. So it's okay not to get to the final if we meet a strong team?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 9 2021, 10:19 PM)
The best plan is to identify the replacement right now, and regardless of position (let’s face it, we ain’t gonna win the league this season), and replace Ole at the end of season. That should give the new manager some time and 1 window to work out an improvement plan. Otherwise we will sing the same transition song, challenge for league song, bla bla bla.

Ole HAS improved the team, since Mou. We are better than when we sacked Mou for sure. And for that we can thank Ole. But we are far from Liverpool and far from MC, right back where we started since Fergie left. And be it tactics, formations or even player selection and player signing, we are still all 2nd grade.

Unless of course that is the plan all along, to just end up in top 4 every year. Which I guarantee you, I will stop watching altogether.
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If the same support was given to mou in his last window as ole, I'm sure the team would be in a better place.

He even won 2 cups for us and now fans are talking about standing behind managers. Jokers.

The only thing bad about mou is his mouth. He says what he wants to say without caring about the consequences but everyone already knew that way way before. You want trophies, you get the whole package with mou.

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Whenever ole lose a game, sure backlash and negativity lol. If the team is improved as we mostly agree, why can't give more ole more time until end of season at the very least. Replacing with new manager = high chance restart all over. If we win Burnley, we are top of the league when season almost halfway. What more can you ask for? All previous famous managers can't even compete no1 when season halfway.

Somehow pep able to get stones + another cb as solid def. They like clean sheet alot d. The kerbau game major difference is we got 2 joker cb vs their cb

For jm his downfall is his own doing. He lost the dressing room. I don't remember many jmout tagline that time. And many fans support he banish jogba to bench except kayu 😀

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1-0 Scotty McTom! biggrin.gif

Note: Astro's broadcast is few minutes behind due to the earlier Arsenal game went into ET so avoid spoiler for those not checking live scores elsewhere smile.gif

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1-0 Scotty McTom!  biggrin.gif

Note: Astro's broadcast is few minutes behind due to the earlier Arsenal game went into ET so avoid spoiler for those not checking live scores elsewhere smile.gif
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No wonder the astro go app delay so much lol. Kena spoiler from google notification like 5 min before the goal lol.
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No wonder the astro go app delay so much lol. Kena spoiler from google notification like 5 min before the goal lol.
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No longer able to see McTominay anywhere. VDB passing like he's playing rugby. Mata passing to nowhere.

A spell of lazy passing by Manchester United. Pass at the back for like 5 minutes, and lob a hopeful ball forward (has not came to fruition for like 20 min already)
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Why Ole can't see Tuanzebe really good, yes he did 1 or 2 mistakes but the partnership with Maguire that makes United looks defensively really strong and better attacking

While VDB proves he is a great player that of course, Ole won't see that VDB made the game much easier just like partnership Maguire with fast and pace players ie Baily or Tuanzebe

I bet Maguire and Lindelof partnership on Burnley game. And the gap between defender and midfield will be wider, hollow in the middle and no high press football

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Never really expect 11 players who never play as a team before, some even get their first game in months, to give a good performance. Especially beside Lingard and James.

Some times seeing fans being harsh to some good fringe players really make me sick. No wonder fans from other clubs accused us as glory glory united fans.

Fridge players finally get their playing times, won the game. What's more u guys asking for?

Wanna blame? Blame OGS for not giving enough time for Mata and VDB before this game, so they are not fit enough to lead the team when needed.

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I don't get why some of the negativity.

It was a good result, we won.
I like the second string team we fielded, our key players like Bruno got a rest.
I thought VDB showed his quality, especially in the first half.

Yes, it looks like it will be Maguire-Lindelof next game.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 10 2021, 06:41 AM)
Never really expect 11 players who never play as a team before, some even get their first game in months, to give a good performance. Especially beside Lingard and James.

Some times seeing fans being harsh to some good fringe players really make me sick. No wonder fans from other clubs accused us as glory glory united fans.

Fridge players finally get their playing times, won the game. What's more u guys asking for?

Wanna blame? Blame OGS for not giving enough time for Mata and VDB before this game, so they are not fit enough to lead the team when needed.
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We could've lost. It was a 6/10 performance against a league 1 side.
Dan James is still doing his best to bang every right back he encounters. 5.5/10, +0.5 for the first few minutes.
Lingardinho was so invisible. 5/10
Mata was OK for a cameo start. He can't press or defend if his life depends on it. 6.5/10
Williams shows why he is not starting this year.
Bailley is better than Maguire or Lindelof, except he will only play 5 times every season. 6.5/10
Tuanzebe was fair.
Vdb did well but Mata in front huffed a little too much to do anything better with his support. 7/10
Greenwood needs to get his act together. Otherwise his whole season will a wash. Another 5.5/10
Sure, this was a game to rest the first 11. But to see our next 11 not inspiring, something we've come to accept?

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Beckham signing phil nev as his new club manager. Good luck!
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Didn't watch the game this morning
Read the news, Bailly injured? Gosh..
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How many times this season has Harry Maguire headed our corner into the stands this season? It's already a permanent fixture of our games.
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Whoever got haaland ni mmg lucky weh..strong physically, can dribble, can head..apa lagi mau..
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Whoever got haaland ni mmg lucky weh..strong physically, can dribble, can head..apa lagi mau..
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Yea, Haaland's awareness is good too. If Martial, jangan harap can score.
Probably will lose the ball and ended we kena counter and down 1 goal.
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Whoever got haaland ni mmg lucky weh..strong physically, can dribble, can head..apa lagi mau..
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Haaland and Sancho, our coveted double. But it will be in vain. We have no money nor prestige to pull, not to mention come play for MU = sit on the bench long long.
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If Haaland comes with Raiola, just no. We almost signed Haaland, but the deal fell through because the club did not agree to a low minimum release clause. We haven't settled Pogba, now we want to bring in another?

No matter how good the player, club comes first.

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Whoever got haaland ni mmg lucky weh..strong physically, can dribble, can head..apa lagi mau..
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Haha still dont think they can halt the lewandowski train

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 10 2021, 11:19 AM)
If Haaland comes with Raiola, just no. We almost signed Haaland, but the deal fell through because the club did not agree to a low minimum release clause. We haven't settled Pogba, now we want to bring in another?

No matter how good the player, club comes first.
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Ok la majority of the 1st eleven get some rest.. 2nd string get some needed game time.. got a win too.. plenty of positives

The negative, still hoping n relying on individual brilliance.. no pattern of play or system like other top teams.. that play exactly the same doesn't matter who are the individuals on the field
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How many times this season has Harry Maguire headed our corner into the stands this season? It's already a permanent fixture of our games.
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ya. i rather he stand at center circle. so frustrating see him head that every match.

dan james more lapsap than lingard in this match lol. 2nd half watch until fall asleep. but a win is a win.
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ya. i rather he stand at center circle. so frustrating see him head that every match.

dan james more lapsap than lingard in this match lol. 2nd half watch until fall asleep. but a win is a win.
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I am worried about Dan James development as a player.
He is too one dimensional.

Get the ball, drop his head and run.

He is not 19. He is 23.
Same age as Rashford. Miles apart in terms of football intelligence.
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I am worried about Dan James development as a player.
He is too one dimensional.

Get the ball, drop his head and run.

He is not 19. He is 23.
Same age as Rashford. Miles apart in terms of football intelligence.
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should worry about Rashford development as well.. same bad decision making week in week out.. his pace is his biggest threat.. same for all the other young attacking players too..

against teams that sit back and United couldn't counter attack, all these young forward players donno what to do.. seems like they are trained to counter-attack, press and outrun the opponent only
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Whoever got haaland ni mmg lucky weh..strong physically, can dribble, can head..apa lagi mau..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 10 2021, 08:22 PM)
should worry about Rashford development as well.. same bad decision making week in week out.. his pace is his biggest threat.. same for all the other young attacking players too..

against teams that sit back and United couldn't counter attack, all these young forward players donno what to do.. seems like they are trained to counter-attack, press and outrun the opponent only
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Rashford I am not too worried. Because in terms of ability, he is one of the better strikers in the PL. When we talk about Rashie's development, we look at it from the lens of him becoming one of the best attackers in Europe. Or the world even. Current ability alone, yes he is a Manchester United player.

The same cannot be said of Daniel James though. In terms of current ability, I'm surprised he even makes the squad. He definitely needs to improve quick and meet that minimum requirement bar we set for players.
Think of other young talents which we let go. Like James Wilson, is James a better attacker than him? Let's go with apple for apple then, a dribbling type run at defenders player. Tahith Chong. Is James really an upgrade to Tahith Chong? Right now I'm afraid no. He looks raw. It won't be so worrying for me if he was 18. But he is 23 and a full international. He's the same age as VDB and just look at the difference between the two!

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On a positive note on young players, Axel Tuanzebe!

Awesome in the game against Watford. I know Bailly is out and Ole's probably gonna go Maguire-Lindelof again, but why not give Tuanzebe a start against Burnley? I think he is one of the best young defenders in the League, and he came through our academy!

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nothing to develop la daniel james lol.. his talents already limited..he will move on in future but for now he is a good squad player for us..
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ole need to develope james as pure winger not as cut inside winger
he have speed and i think good dribbling to pass 1 or 2 players.
sport scientist need to bulk up his body a bit.
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When Martial and Rashford were first introduced, I thought Martial was the better talent. His coolness in front of the goal were superb, for a very young striker. Rashford I thought just another pacy English striker. If I have to bet which gonna be a world class striker, it will be Martial.

Both basically occupied the same positions, excelled on the left side, OK as a #9, but rubbish on the right. Both developed well and flourished as a better scorer, especially last season.

Martial seem lost his way this season, and Rashford seem hit and miss, but still very much influential attacking player for us.

They are still developing and have lot of potential, if we gonna have a real success in the future, both will be integral part of it.

Ole bought 2 promising youngsters (after failed to land Sancho), both initially a right winger. Alongside Greenwood, I hope we can have a fearsome combo in the next few years.

BTW James seem nothing but a good squad player.
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jan 11 2021, 02:08 AM)
ole need to develope james as pure winger not as cut inside winger
he have speed and i think good dribbling to pass 1 or 2 players.
sport scientist need to bulk up his body a bit.
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Agreed. Stuck him as a right winger, play counter attack and play a lot of crosses. He seem always caught on 2 minds, always took a wrong decisions.

Valencia was a simple minded and conservative winger for us (before he converted to RB), yet he is probably the best winger we ever had after Ronaldo gone. His move were predictable, but effective.

Both have a same speed (possibly James is quicker) but Valencia definitely stronger chap.
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i remember james cross to rashford last season, goal vs liverpool

it was top class cross
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QUOTE(BartoCastro @ Jan 11 2021, 10:56 AM)
Agreed. Stuck him as a right winger, play counter attack and play a lot of crosses. He seem always caught on 2 minds, always took a wrong decisions.

Valencia was a simple minded and conservative winger for us (before he converted to RB), yet he is probably the best winger we ever had after Ronaldo gone. His move were predictable, but effective.

Both have a same speed (possibly James is quicker) but Valencia definitely stronger chap.
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Valencia is a one trick pony. With a very good trick.
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QUOTE(BartoCastro @ Jan 11 2021, 10:56 AM)
Agreed. Stuck him as a right winger, play counter attack and play a lot of crosses. He seem always caught on 2 minds, always took a wrong decisions.

Valencia was a simple minded and conservative winger for us (before he converted to RB), yet he is probably the best winger we ever had after Ronaldo gone. His move were predictable, but effective.

Both have a same speed (possibly James is quicker) but Valencia definitely stronger chap.
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not all games we need to use cut inside winger
sometimes we need to cross and pray too. we lack this department

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not all games we need to use cut inside winger
sometimes we need to cross and pray too. we lack this department
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If we go for crosses, we need to have players who can head the ball well. Outside Cavani, I don't see any potentials.

Remember the last time we crossed and prayed for the best? If memory serves me right, it was Fulham under David Moyes. 84 crosses, set a new record. No goal.
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15 goals for 15 years consecutively. Guaranteed. flex.gif

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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 11 2021, 03:06 PM)
15 goals for 15 years consecutively. Guaranteed.  flex.gif

https://twitter.com/goal/status/1348402397794734080
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Valencia is a one trick pony. With a very good trick.
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Valencia is captain material. James still need to learn how to be consistent.

Much different.
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 11 2021, 03:06 PM)
15 goals for 15 years consecutively. Guaranteed.  flex.gif

https://twitter.com/goal/status/1348402397794734080
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more impressive he still so fit.. the leap again drool.gif
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Good for the fans.

Another news fosu to leverkusen
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In Europa also we got strong pairing.
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Really, how bad luck can we be in this season?

First, drawn with PSG, RB Leipzig in CL.
Then drawn with Real Sociedad in Europa League.
Now drawn with Liverpool so early in FA Cup.

Wanna give fringe and young player their only playing time also cannot. Haiz.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 12 2021, 12:00 PM)
Really, how bad luck can we be in this season?

First, drawn with PSG, RB Leipzig in CL.
Then drawn with Real Sociedad in Europa League.
Now drawn with Liverpool so early in FA Cup.

Wanna give fringe and young player their only playing time also cannot. Haiz.
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fa cup i think still can rotate.. priority still going to epl what.. just not sure how is the covid19 situation in uk. looks like getting worse..
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Which is more important?

Vs liverpool in epl or
Vs liverpool in fa.

I think we all know the answer...
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Which is more important?

Vs liverpool in epl or
Vs liverpool in fa.

I think we all know the answer...
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5 or 6 games to win FA Cup
Vs
18 games in PL

Vs whomever is not an issue. Easier route to win is FA Cup.

Regardless of whomever wins, Victimpool fans will always say there is an agenda against them. That's why their motto is Always The Victim, Never Our Fault.
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So many easy teams to draw in fa
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 12 2021, 08:31 AM)
Good for the fans.

Another news  fosu to leverkusen
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perhaps some buy back clause
in case it may turn out like pique
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Here is my transfer wish.

Glazers transfer out back to the US.
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Here is my transfer wish.

Glazers transfer out back to the US.
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I think the ref hates manchester united now lol. especially after what cavani and pogba tried to do to "referee the game"
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lolx, are we playing against the referee as well?
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Good ball from Shaw for the assist after getting a yellow a little harshly. Goal was disallowed in the end for towering, but it was a good ball by Shaw
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two overhead kick block, martial and cavani... aiks.. on trget.
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lolx, are we playing against the referee as well?
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Good ball from Shaw for the assist after getting a yellow a little harshly. Goal was disallowed in the end for towering, but it was a good ball by Shaw
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Suddenly good at crossing after telles joined

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Martial is playing against us
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did bruno just told pogba where to run? lol

jogba wont run..he IS the creator.

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did bruno just told pogba where to run? lol

jogba wont run..he IS the creator.
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still no subs? hmmmmm

grr.. frustrating match

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matic, pogba, maguire, bailly, cavani... got 5 players that good in the air but cant cross the ball properly.. what the hell they did in training?

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style la pogba!! hahahaha
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PAUL FUCKING POGBA
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Goool
Pogba
Lucky hahah
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Serves Burnley right for not trying to play football. See if u wanna just lob balls randomly out somemore or not. Or go down easily somemore
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Pogba and deflection like sibling. Hopefully increase his confidence. Maguire better not get yellow card

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credit/fair to him, hit the ball well, luck is created
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Hard game
Any goal will do
Burnley really park double decker
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Looking vulnerable when burnley crossing and liverpool really good at crossing
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Oh shit var
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baily block how many shots d? gosh!!

comeon get the 3 points!!

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Struggling to defend against burnley
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sub in mctominay to defend but still cant defend.
thers something really wrong with current MU defence coach
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martial just cant score... aiks...
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What a miss
And lucky escape fr that var
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might as well sub in vdb to control it .

fuk ole favoritsm

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post Jan 13 2021, 06:11 AM

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Martial and rashford cant score 1 on 1 against goalkeeper

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post Jan 13 2021, 06:12 AM

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now sub in tuanzebe pulak.. all out defence but still struggling
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:14 AM

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cavani is much more lively than martial

baily is beast!

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post Jan 13 2021, 06:15 AM

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Toppppp of the table!!!


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post Jan 13 2021, 06:15 AM

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lulz thanks to pogba and baily.. MU are now top!
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:15 AM

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post Jan 13 2021, 06:16 AM

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Cavani not bad, too bad didn't score today... Martial haiz... Same quality as vydra lol... Both missing clear chances... Pogba also wake up already but martial entah ke mana haiz
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:17 AM

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Macheim tak caya top of the league.

Again after all this years...

Fuhhh.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 13 2021, 06:16 AM)
Cavani not bad, too bad didn't score today... Martial haiz... Same quality as vydra lol... Both missing clear chances... Pogba also wake up already but martial entah ke mana haiz
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he took away chance for cavani and didnt score from his pass. martial finished already.
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:21 AM

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TOP OF THE LEAGUE BABY!!!

Matic played really well. Ever since it stopped being McT-Matic, i dont think he had played a bad game honestly. Just ever so steady, slow but steady, and doesnt get hot headed.

Pogba played well too after his agent started talking shit lol. Gonna be hard for Ole to just say fuck it and let go of Pogba since he seems to favor him a lot.

Bruno - One day he is gonna talk himself into a red card lol. How many yellow has he picked up just from arguing with referee? Bruno was hit and miss, I think for a few games also like this. But we would pretty much need Bruno for the small moments of magic.

Rashford needs a hair dryer lol. Has been awful. Everytime he gets the ball i just roll my eyes and see what he fucks up this time lol.

Martial, still the problem with finishes. Gonna be difficult to justify playing him up front against liverpool though.

But seriously, fuck burnley lol. Not wanting to play football until we scored the goal. Was falling pretty easily but after we scored, they were all like hulks taking in set pieces. So many of our players left with a scar tonight probably lol.

Maguire's goal should have stand... The defender just went down too easily upon contact. Perhaps Maguire shouldnt even have to put his hands out. He was gonna head the ball no matter he towered or not
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(arinpresto @ Jan 13 2021, 06:17 AM)
Macheim tak caya top of the league.

Again after all this years...

Fuhhh.
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Dont think we've gotten top of the league since SAF lol
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:23 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 06:21 AM)
TOP OF THE LEAGUE BABY!!!

Matic played really well. Ever since it stopped being McT-Matic, i dont think he had played a bad game honestly. Just ever so steady, slow but steady, and doesnt get hot headed.

Pogba played well too after his agent started talking shit lol. Gonna be hard for Ole to just say fuck it and let go of Pogba since he seems to favor him a lot.

Bruno - One day he is gonna talk himself into a red card lol. How many yellow has he picked up just from arguing with referee? Bruno was hit and miss, I think for a few games also like this. But we would pretty much need Bruno for the small moments of magic.

Rashford needs a hair dryer lol. Has been awful. Everytime he gets the ball i just roll my eyes and see what he fucks up this time lol.

Martial, still the problem with finishes. Gonna be difficult to justify playing him up front against liverpool though.

But seriously, fuck burnley lol. Not wanting to play football until we scored the goal. Was falling pretty easily but after we scored, they were all like hulks taking in set pieces. So many of our players left with a scar tonight probably lol.

Maguire's goal should have stand... The defender just went down too easily upon contact. Perhaps Maguire shouldnt even have to put his hands out. He was gonna head the ball no matter he towered or not
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martial and rashford is a weak point this season somehow. one season wonder those two.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 13 2021, 06:17 AM)
he took away chance for cavani and didnt score from his pass. martial finished already.
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Martial and Rashford totally out of form
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:26 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 06:21 AM)
Dont think we've gotten top of the league since SAF lol
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Yes last season SAF. After that all kelaut.
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 13 2021, 06:23 AM)
martial and rashford is a weak point this season somehow. one season wonder those two.
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Rashford's been on and off i think. More off than on admittedly but when he is off it really looks bad and shocking to watch shocking.gif

Martial in the other hand cant fcking finish to save his life. I think he played well, but once he gets to the last step - he shoots, and he fucks it up again. Its just so weird rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 06:27 AM)
Rashford's been on and off i think. More off than on admittedly but when he is off it really looks bad and shocking to watch  shocking.gif

Martial in the other hand cant fcking finish to save his life. I think he played well, but once he gets to the last step - he shoots, and he fucks it up again. Its just so weird  rclxub.gif
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rashford is useless if there is no space for him to run. thats why he become bad when playing against team that parking the bus.
once amad play and proven good, martial career finished.
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post Jan 13 2021, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 06:27 AM)
Rashford's been on and off i think. More off than on admittedly but when he is off it really looks bad and shocking to watch  shocking.gif

Martial in the other hand cant fcking finish to save his life. I think he played well, but once he gets to the last step - he shoots, and he fucks it up again. Its just so weird  rclxub.gif
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Martial is just crap as a striker. Push him back to LW and force him to use his ball control and dribbling skills as one of team's creative outlet.

Rashford was all over the place.

We need a clinical striker to help us in getting goals consistently.

Bailly and Pogba bailed us out.


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post Jan 13 2021, 07:11 AM

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Hope Ole able to see that Bailly saving us so many times.

His quick decision covering Maguire mistakes so many times that make United defensive solid

Against Liverpool, Ole needs to stick with Wan Bissaka, Bailly, Maigure and Shaw



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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 06:21 AM)
Dont think we've gotten top of the league since SAF lol
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post Jan 13 2021, 07:23 AM

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Now the pressure is on lpool and klopp

With lpool we need to play Fred thou Matic is good
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post Jan 13 2021, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 13 2021, 07:23 AM)
Now the pressure is on lpool and klopp

With lpool we need to play Fred thou Matic is good
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Really worried it will be a borefest if ole choose to play 3 CB bailly-maguire-lindelof and pair it with fred-mctominay. Think counter attack is the best chance we have at scoring but with our strikers not on form we will be looking at bruno. Sadly, teams already know to man mark bruno kao kao to eliminate his threat. I dont see us winning Liverpool tbh but who knows.

For me, our best chance of winning the league is securing draws over top teams and win the rest of the small teams then hoping Liverpool will go on a bad run of form
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 08:38 AM)
Really worried it will be a borefest if ole choose to play 3 CB bailly-maguire-lindelof and pair it with fred-mctominay. Think counter attack is the best chance we have at scoring but with our strikers not on form we will be looking at bruno. Sadly, teams already know to man mark bruno kao kao to eliminate his threat. I dont see us winning Liverpool tbh but who knows.

For me, our best chance of winning the league is securing draws over top teams and win the rest of the small teams then hoping Liverpool will go on a bad run of form
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hope to get all 3 points this weekend. btw mc if win games on hand will be 1 point behind only. and they are on mad form now laugh.gif
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 06:21 AM)
Dont think we've gotten top of the league since SAF lol
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If I am not mistaken, during Jose's era we did get to top spot too.
Just that we didn't manage to sustain.

Now the question is, can our current team hold on? Its still long way to finish line.
With MC trailing 1 point behind (assuming the bag the 2 games on hand).
And we facing Pool next.
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post Jan 13 2021, 09:11 AM

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Nv rated rashford as main striker. At least for time being. His finishing is just not clinical enough.
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post Jan 13 2021, 10:04 AM

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Liverpool fan and Klopp ni takut sangat ke dengan us 😂 it’s not a team under saf pun, it’s ole on the wheel 😀
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we need to win games like this...even with 1 goal. i think during previous seasons, we would just draw. thats what causing us points.
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yes martial and rashford off form but still martial should play LW when opponent play deeper with tight line, rashfod can play LW when opponent give space.
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 13 2021, 10:04 AM)
Liverpool fan and Klopp ni takut sangat ke dengan us 😂 it’s not a team under saf pun, it’s ole on the wheel 😀
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yeah so scared for wat, current team still consider quite shitty laugh.gif
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ole ole ole lol.

i can't see any foul on maguire goal. the def just go down when got contact. cavani left his shooting boots at home. few shots inside penalty box but lame. he got himself with those chances though. baily is much more commanding in the center than maguire. he should always start.

this season we are taking most of the chances to climb up and up not screwing it up. pool is up for the taking. judging by city form on kerbau cup, now city is much more a threat. it's good to hope other teams drop point standing at the top!
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 13 2021, 10:56 AM)
ole ole ole lol.

i can't see any foul on maguire goal. the def just go down when got contact. cavani left his shooting boots at home. few shots inside penalty box but lame. he got himself with those chances though. baily is much more commanding in the center than maguire. he should always start.

this season we are taking most of the chances to climb up and up not screwing it up. pool is up for the taking. judging by city form on kerbau cup, now city is much more a threat. it's good to hope other teams drop point standing at the top!
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Bailey is good even during Jose time. But too bad that he always injured. Hope this season he can be fit. 🤞
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https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-city...ing-in-training

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 13 2021, 11:24 AM)
It is very Guardiola actually. Let me explain.

Guardiola's strategy has always revolved around the 3Ps : Play, Possession, Position.
The most important is Position. If you are positioning well, you do not have to run as much. Running could almost be seen as compensating for poos position. Like defenders who are quick can make up for their lack of positioining by chasing them down. But what if everyone was in the right position all the time? That is powerful. Think of Barca of 2008. They barefly seem to run at all but the ball does all the work fizzing around the pitch.

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Brady should have been sent off for his challenge regardless of Shaws foul. It's just setting a percedent for dangerous plays in the future, if a small foul happen and game goes on then a player studs an opponent and breaks his legs. No foul?
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 13 2021, 07:11 AM)
Hope Ole able to see that Bailly saving us so many times.

His quick decision covering Maguire mistakes so many times that make United defensive solid

Against Liverpool, Ole needs to stick with Wan Bissaka, Bailly, Maigure and Shaw
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if no maguire, then no so much mistakes liao... hmm.gif

hope rashford got wear shooting boot that day.. he tend to score vs big teams.. no matter how shit or poor his decision is prior...
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jan 13 2021, 01:04 PM)
Brady should have been sent off for his challenge regardless of Shaws foul. It's just setting a percedent for dangerous plays in the future, if a small foul happen and game goes on then a player studs an opponent and breaks his legs. No foul?
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+1

the rules is a joke, this is abit like the Pickford tackle on VVD.

Dangerous play should get a card, regardless of anything. The players need protection.

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What a waste at the end, that counter attack. Cavani's lob to martial. And he shoot straight at keepr wtf
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jan 13 2021, 02:38 PM)
What a waste at the end, that counter attack. Cavani's lob to martial. And he shoot straight at keepr wtf
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Learning from his best mate Rashford
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 13 2021, 03:29 PM)
Learning from his best mate Rashford
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It could have been such a nice team goal arghhh
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relax guys, they are saving the goals for Liverpool haha
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Let's not be overly critical. We didn't play to our best and still we got 3 points. Last season, we would have drawn to Villa and we would have drawn this game as well.

Enjoy the view from the top of the table, and have fun entertaining the rants from Pool fans.

This Sunday now becomes a massive game.

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This coming Sunday's match will either prove MU is a pretender or title challenger team.
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 13 2021, 08:38 AM)
Really worried it will be a borefest if ole choose to play 3 CB bailly-maguire-lindelof and pair it with fred-mctominay. Think counter attack is the best chance we have at scoring but with our strikers not on form we will be looking at bruno. Sadly, teams already know to man mark bruno kao kao to eliminate his threat. I dont see us winning Liverpool tbh but who knows.

For me, our best chance of winning the league is securing draws over top teams and win the rest of the small teams then hoping Liverpool will go on a bad run of form
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Yup true,

The only thing that United can do if Bruno not perform well or mark by the opponent others should step up.

Last night Pogba did a great job so does with our defender ie Bailly and Luke Shaw

If Fred and Mc Tom start for liverpool then United will play counter attack since Mc Tom can't deliver or bring the ball forward

either Mc Tom is that kind of player or Ole told to do so

VDB can make the attacking more organise but Ole not trust him

Hope our strikers can step up the game and fully utilise any chances that they get

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jan 13 2021, 10:43 AM)
yeah so scared for wat, current team still consider quite shitty  laugh.gif
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And they are current epl champion and previous ucl winner. Patut we yang takut dengan them. Seeing them scared us mcm jumpa Bayern aje dlm fa cup. Hilarious 😂😂😂
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 13 2021, 02:06 PM)
if no maguire, then no so much mistakes liao...  hmm.gif

hope rashford got wear shooting boot that day.. he tend to score vs big teams.. no matter how shit or poor his decision is prior...
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Maguire is undroppable he is the captain, he is anchor, he is the pioneer for United defender on Ole perspective

One of the reasons United paid so much for him 80million

even last night Rashford not score and play quite reserved but he creates the chances, maybe he wants to save his legs against liverpool

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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 13 2021, 07:13 PM)
Maguire is undroppable he is the captain, he is anchor, he is the pioneer for United defender on Ole perspective

One of the reasons United paid so much for him 80million

even last night Rashford not score and play quite reserved but he creates the chances, maybe he wants to save his legs against liverpool
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Thats the thing about rash. He can be pretty poor in final 3rd decision making and finishing for 2 3 games but big games time he somehow can get goals. From my observation la...

Hopefully he turn up on sunday.
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 13 2021, 07:13 PM)
Maguire is undroppable he is the captain, he is anchor, he is the pioneer for United defender on Ole perspective

One of the reasons United paid so much for him 80million

even last night Rashford not score and play quite reserved but he creates the chances, maybe he wants to save his legs against liverpool
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Maguire, as a defender, prefers to use his positioning to be the spare man.
This usually manifests itself in 2 ways on the pitch.

His adjacent fullback usually stays back unless there is a CDM covering the space. Among all our CDMs, Matic does this the best via positioning although he lacks pace. That frees up the fullback to bomb forward.

The demands on his CB partner. As Maguire becomes the free man, his partner is then saddled with defensive marking and chasing down balls. With Bailly, he's quick enough to cover fast runners. While Lindelof is not. So with Lindelof and the threat of fast breaks, Maguire takes a deeper position which pushes the defensive line deeper. It's not a knock on Lindelof, because Lindelof is the same type of defender Maguire is. They both look better when paired with a CB who is fast and physical. I'd like to see a pairing of Maguire - Bailly, covered by Lindelof - Tuanzebe as backup.

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 14 2021, 08:38 AM)
can we try... after TFM who else, Romero, Rojo... Pogba not likely this window.
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Pogba suddenly perform laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 14 2021, 01:13 PM)
Pogba suddenly perform  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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good. hope he cont to perform until next window and sell biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 13 2021, 07:09 PM)
And they are current epl champion and previous ucl winner. Patut we yang takut dengan them. Seeing them scared us mcm jumpa Bayern aje dlm fa cup. Hilarious 😂😂😂
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Yeah because they would like to defend their Premier League while we do not seriously think that we are the title contender at the beginning of the season blush.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 14 2021, 03:18 PM)
good. hope he cont to perform until next window and sell  biggrin.gif
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True. Bahahahaha biggrin.gif Is he a prima donna?
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 14 2021, 07:45 PM)
Yeah because they would like to defend their Premier League while we do not seriously think that we are the title contender at the beginning of the season  blush.gif
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All of sudden it’s all sarahan Manchester United 😂😂😂😂
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All of sudden it’s all sarahan Manchester United 😂😂😂😂
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If im not mistaken, going into the game, liverpool would have more rest days than manchester united. In b4 klopp say his players legs become too cold due to long rest, asking FA to let him arrange his own schedule sweat.gif
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The 35-year-old, who had been in interim charge since Phillip Cocu was sacked on 14 November, has now also officially retired as a player.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55646923

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The Manchester United midfielder has become the first player to win the award four times in a calendar year, having also done so in February, June and November 2020."
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Happy retirement as a player Rooney and good luck!

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It is laughable Lpool's Klopp spoke about the penalty as they always get a soft penalty.

Fair play for Klopp for mind games but Ole is brilliant he does not react about it. And the most important thing he told that not his place to say about the decision of the referees

While Klopp begging to get a soft penalty and I do believe Salah, Ferminho will dive in the penalty box


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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 16 2021, 09:38 AM)
It is laughable Lpool's Klopp spoke about the penalty as they always get a soft penalty. 

Fair play for Klopp for mind games but Ole is brilliant he does not react about it. And the most important thing he told that not his place to say about the decision of the referees

While Klopp begging to get a soft penalty and I do believe Salah, Ferminho will dive in the penalty box
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jan 16 2021, 09:38 AM)
It is laughable Lpool's Klopp spoke about the penalty as they always get a soft penalty. 

Fair play for Klopp for mind games but Ole is brilliant he does not react about it. And the most important thing he told that not his place to say about the decision of the referees

While Klopp begging to get a soft penalty and I do believe Salah, Ferminho will dive in the penalty box
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I don't think it will happen as I think Ole will go with the Mc-Fred midfield, but I'd like to see VDB start ahead of McTominay. Liverpool at Anfield are going to play one way, and they are going to charge us from the first whistle. They will play the high press.

VDB has better control and is more press resistant. We do not want to risk our CDMs losing the ball in deep positions. I can see Ole wanting to play the counter but if we get pressured to the point we resort to hoofing the ball away, that is not going to work. Banking on VDB to absorb the press and thread those passes forwards. Pogba's passing range from deep is great too, but Klopp will probably put someone on him fulltime to prevent that if he plays.



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but so far still failed to beat top team
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That's how we won the league last time.
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QUOTE(bob @ Jan 16 2021, 01:09 PM)
but so far still failed to beat top team
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Beat top team, 3 points. Beat bottom team, 3 points.
Best example : Arsenal.

Beat United 1-0. Then 7 match winless streak.
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Beat top team, 3 points. Beat bottom team, 3 points.
Best example : Arsenal.

Beat United 1-0. Then 7 match winless streak.
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its either gonna be a very close game (smash and grab) or we are going to get our asses handed to us by liverpool aka a total beatdown
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Wtf in ole’s mind? Why Lindelof?
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 17 2021, 11:33 PM)
Wtf in ole’s mind? Why Lindelof?
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Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Henderson, Fabinho, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Thiago, Shaqiri, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

62 Kelleher, 7 Milner, 15 Oxlade-Chamberlain, 17 Jones, 18 Minamino, 27 Origi, 46 R. Williams, 47 Phillips, 76 N. Williams

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Shaw, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof, Pogba, Fred, McTominay, Bruno Fernandes, Martial, Rashford.

26 Henderson, 3 Bailly, 7 Cavani, 8 Mata, 11 Greenwood, 27 Telles, 31 Matic, 34 Van de Beek, 38 Tuanzebe
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jan 17 2021, 11:38 PM)
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and that ours will be wearing their shooting boots.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 17 2021, 11:40 PM)
I know Lindelof is Ole’s god son but against Salah Mane and Firmino we need someone who has pace and aggressive to cover Maguire. Both Maguire and Lindelof are cool type
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But then Bailly who has tendency of over committing in tackles vs these few with quick feet ..... its double edge sword......
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Gg, it will be 90 minutes park the bus. Cant move forward as no pace CB. Hoping Rashford and martial pace to win the game
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bailly is too unpredictable. he can be brilliant but he can be a disaster waiting to happen, seeing as this is a big game, its natural that ole is risk-averse coming into the game. however im not convinced by the pairing of lindelof - maguire.......
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its gonna be close game. but we can win 1-0
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 18 2021, 12:42 AM)
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Tight match, just 1 goal I believe

Our passing is loose. Grrrrr Fred + mcsauce

Captain got bypassed few times d hahaha

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QUOTE(john_white @ Jan 18 2021, 12:56 AM)
erm maguire
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Maguire clearance always half hearted one. Or ability camtu je
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The more we sit deep the more lpool create chances. Mc sauce with 90 successful passing rate is because side passing n back passing no forward
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Liverpool usual style, possession 70 80% then second half they always get equalised
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they play high line.. bruno need to calm his tits down.. dont go panic mode..
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Nerve half. Hope Rashford check the line before making the run. James seems useful for this kind of game
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fred and mctominay really cannot. doesnt hold the mid properly to attack liverpool
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 18 2021, 01:08 AM)
wtf bruno.. panic attack?
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Okok half only. Maguire a lot half heart clearance and ball watching..luckily doesnt lead to goal yet..

Rash shud have done better and watch his shoulders before making run.. so many offsides
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Bruno has been absolutely awful.

Rashford. Well, what more can be said other than offsides.

McT and Fred - god awful at midfield. No forward passes and not winning balls in the middle. Whats the point even playing 2 holding

Shaw - beast of a player despite everyone else is shit

Liverpool plays really good football though. Definitely looks better coached than ManUtd. Well composed and organized in the attack. On the other hand, we looked awful with the ball. Not interested in passing the ball forward, instead just lob the ball forward to nowhere.

Hope liverpool falls off the second half from all the intense pressing and man marking they did all first half.
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Shaw is our best player at the moment. Constantly dealth with Salah and Mane. Won our freekick.

Mc-Fred lacks the composure to resist the high press. This recycles the ball back to Liverpool. One of them would better be off subbed for VDB or Matic.

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bissaka defend is good
but his releasing pass are slow....zzzz

hate to see FW need to see own player before dashing....
with rashford pace, i wonder why he bother to look at own player before dashing.....
should have keep eye on opponent player line .....keep offiside.....
definitely need cavani......

cavani will track down n hold ball for rashford to dash......
martial should replace by cavani n rashford move to left while cavani centre

suck to see some player dont have those passion to track down when ball not around....

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 01:23 AM)
Shaw is our best player at the moment. Constantly dealth with Salah and Mane. Won our freekick.

Mc-Fred lacks the composure to resist the high press. This recycles the ball back to Liverpool. One of them would better be off subbed for VDB or Matic.
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when they get pressured they pass the ball back to defender. then defender get pressured kick high ball forward. repeat.
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We jz need a bit more juice from our midfield man. Cmon test the 2 CM in the centre back positions! Dont waste this opportunity to step on liverpool while theyre down with injuries
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We jz need a bit more juice from our midfield man. Cmon test the 2 CM in the centre back positions! Dont waste this opportunity to step on liverpool while theyre down with injuries
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Wrong kind of game for our midfield two.
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i dont expect much from fred n mctominay for attacking....
they are more on DM mission

but definitely need to consider take out Martial
did he play in the match?
almost like transparent.....
should have sub him with cavani n switch with rashford....

cant blame bruno....
who else can he look up when he having ball?
rashford keep offside while martial like not around....
pogba need to release himself more


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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jan 18 2021, 01:25 AM)
when they get pressured they pass the ball back to defender. then defender get pressured kick high ball forward. repeat.
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Hard to get the forward pass too as there are only 2 players in front of them for passing options, and Liverpool are quick to smother those two options.
Especially under pressure. Matic or VDB would be technical players to deal with it.

The first half went well. This is exactly how Ole sets out to play and we didn't give too many chances.
Don't criticize the team yet. This is part of the plan.

Expect us to pick it up later in the 2nd half. If we nick one in the last 10 minutes, it's turtle up.
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More like a 442 or a 4411 to me, this tactic suitable to all round defence but at the same time makes Bruno macam useless today. Best is to swap Bruno to the left and put martial back in the middle.

Pogba was really hardworking in the first half, track back and sending ball to left

Slowly play and wait for the chances...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 01:32 AM)
Wrong kind of game for our midfield two.
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Its always the same 2 for big games though which is sad to see. How are we expecting bruno to bless us with his magic touch every game let alone the fact that Bruno is absolutely awful today.



Game started the same way for liverpool though... don't see how we can win this honestly. A draw would be a good result for us?
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Its always the same 2 for big games though which is sad to see. How are we expecting bruno to bless us with his magic touch every game let alone the fact that Bruno is absolutely awful today.
Game started the same way for liverpool though... don't see how we can win this honestly. A draw would be a good result for us?
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jan 18 2021, 01:59 AM)
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What a chance....

Lindelof is playing well

Fernandez out of steam d

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Pogba... u can do better

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Too self centre player.
Give up on the team work
Stupid rashford.
Two ppl around to pass but decide to take himself
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Bruno need to show respect, he has his time and chance and now it’s up

Looks like a draw. Grrrrrr rashford need to off

Greenwood came too late

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Don’t mind u want aim for individual brilliance if the team is winning

But doing that when the game was 50-50

Speechless
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QUOTE(areankim @ Jan 18 2021, 02:18 AM)
Bruno need to show respect, he has his time and chance and now it’s up

Looks like a draw. Grrrrrr rashford need to off

Greenwood came too late
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QUOTE(Darren @ Jan 18 2021, 02:14 AM)
Too self centre player.
Give up on the team work
Stupid rashford.
Two ppl around to pass but decide to take himself
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Shud have run to left to free up space. Damn
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Man city got chance to take top for winning 2 games in hand.
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We could have won ...

and why OGS can't even use the 3rd sub to give VdB some chances?
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We played really well. Liverpool was contained.
Good chances to Bruno and Pogba, another day we would've taken it.

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jan 18 2021, 02:17 AM)
Rashford undroppable??
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I think its high time we think about the favoritism towards rashford. Has been awful all game. I think he made 1 good pass forward whole game?

QUOTE(areankim @ Jan 18 2021, 02:18 AM)
Bruno need to show respect, he has his time and chance and now it’s up

Looks like a draw. Grrrrrr rashford need to off

Greenwood came too late
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Rather, i think it was good that Bruno wanted to stay on the pitch and try to win the game since liverpool definitely looks like for the taking.


I guess the sub was for pogba to fill bruno's spot? And greenwood to go wide?
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Brainsless rashford. He got no footballing brain this kid
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City win both games in hand wil be top... now top 4 is wide open again
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QUOTE(areankim @ Jan 18 2021, 02:18 AM)
Bruno need to show respect, he has his time and chance and now it’s up

Looks like a draw. Grrrrrr rashford need to off

Greenwood came too late
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should have sub trashford instead of him.
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Shaw n linde my motm
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Also, how the hell did Thiago left the pitch today without a fucking yellow card? Am i hearing it wrong or pool fans are just syok sendiri plus double standards when they say ref helps MU
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 18 2021, 02:22 AM)
Shud have run to left to free up space. Damn
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There are one more player coming on the right
Not sure who it is but definitely one of the option

But for me, I will be definite release to more experience cavani
Cavani been ready to dash but he go straight up

Speechless
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i hope cavani chop rashford, stupid decision ever.
on the side note, luke shaw good in defending
maguire doing what he love to do, menyusahkan his partner
pogba and bruno try hard, tomato play too safe


MOTM : luke shaw and lindelof

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For lindelof who just back from injuries.. he is doing good this match, shaw totally dominate salah, actually Liverpool front 3 as sucks as us... Lol... We gt more on target than them at least 🤣🤣
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Shaw masterclass. MoTM.
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Jan 18 2021, 02:25 AM)
should have sub trashford instead of him.
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For a champion and home team... I wonder why the fool need to make so much desperate tackles and makan kuning... Lol... Our attack mati pucuk anyway
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QUOTE(Darren @ Jan 18 2021, 02:26 AM)
There are one more player coming on the right
Not sure who it is but definitely one of the option

But for me, I will be definite release to more experience cavani
Cavani been ready to dash but he go straight up

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i thought jogba going win us 3 point again. alison save zzz.

jogba play well apart from a usual jogging at one point that left roberson free cross.

jogba, maguire, lindeloft, shaw, ddg is on top of the game. 1 point is not that bad, but kinda miss opportunity to race clear.
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 18 2021, 02:26 AM)
Also, how the hell did Thiago left the pitch today without a fucking yellow card? Am i hearing it wrong or pool fans are just syok sendiri plus double standards when they say ref helps MU
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same tot, that double lunge... with no yellow card.
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Our attack is so blunt...when can we have real, dependable clinical striker?
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MOTM for me
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QUOTE(tekkaus @ Jan 18 2021, 02:31 AM)
Our attack is so blunt...when can we have real, dependable clinical striker?
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If we have chances like the fool we would have scored already... Too bad today totally no wing play from us... So we can stretch their defense... Everything go thru the middle
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Not just draw but clean sheet.. I think we did good liverpool got many shot but no clear chances while we got 2 good ones.

MOM likely alisson.. United best player is shaw
Greenwood came bit too late shoud be earlier.
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MOTM for me
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Theres no question about it. Made Salah real frustrated. Shaw has been good for us for quite a few games now. Really picked up where Telles has disappointed.
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we lost almost all the ball from throw in immediately.
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QUOTE(areankim @ Jan 18 2021, 02:31 AM)
same tot, that double lunge... with no yellow card.
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He has been fouling to stop our break all game long too. Real shocker here. Mr klopp, the mr complain doesnt seem to have a problem with this.
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Hey, let's get a little positivity round. We played really well!

- Liverpool fans will be the more frustrated bunch. They would've lost based on the second half performace.
- This was a disciplined approach. We should be proud that we can grind out a result.
- Our attack was fine. We were always going to take chances on the counter. If we never created a single chance, yes our attack sucks. But we made more clear chances than Liverpool! Bruno, and then Pogba had winning chances. De Gea made ONE good safe from a long range shot from Thiago.

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Good result
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Good result I would said

1. We let Liverpool pressing for almost entire first half, keep a clean sheet in the first half and second half they hold back a little considering of tiredness. Everyone was discipline including Pogba himself

2. Second half really open play, we did hit Liverpool with few counter attacks, Bruno, Pogba, Rashford creating chances and wasted chances as well

3. Shaw improving a lot since the arrival of Telles. He makes Salah frustrated for the entire match

4. Lindelof was good, I was wrong at first on his selection but he did good

5. Expected Bruno to be poor today cuz we are playing like a 442 or a 4411 formation, both Martial and Pogba were sit quite back which makes Bruno quite invincible for some times, Greenwood should have coming in earlier knowing this game is all about attacking from the wide area

1 point, clean sheet, and still on top of the table
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Don't forget liverpool were playing their midfielders henderson and fabinho as CB and United still cant score.
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haha now leicester is trying 2 win their 2nd title

same with peps city

its going 2 be very close now

and defending champs drop 2 3rd already

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Lpool are lucky to get a draw that 2 brilliant saves by Allison

Overall United grew confidence but our strikers need to learn less selfish and more teamwork. If Rashford passes the ball to Cavani it made all the game different.

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Lpool are lucky to get a draw that 2 brilliant saves by Allison

Overall United grew confidence but our strikers need to learn less selfish and more teamwork. If Rashford passes the ball to Cavani it made all the game different.
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Rashford off field no selfish and distribute foods to the community but on the field he was selfish and don’t distribute the ball to his teammates
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a good result. But our first half was playing with fire. This highlights how far we are from the top. First it was MC during the Carabao Cup, and next it is Liverpool today.

If we keep playing this two teams for the whole season we will end up last.

Liverpool will be frustrated no doubt but at least they tried. Man, Thiago is a beast compared to our no.6. Maestro, conductor whatever. Today it is only from their not so top form front 3, that we are spared. Just 1 goal from them would have opened the floodgates (just refer MC in Carabao cup).

Our play right now is just enough for us to scrap by into top 4 because whenever we meet top teams itll be 2 DM+ Pogba in the deep, the forwards are gonna be starved of service. You look at Salah, Firmino and Mane, they run, but they don't have to run 30 yards everytime they get the ball. Rashford has to run 30 yards to hit a wall. Because no one is near him to interchange. All our forwards including Bruno is just a man unto himself everytime they get the ball.

We will not conquer England and Europe if we don't play like Liverpool, This is the way. I'm looking for improvement in this aspect, of course the fact that we are somehow top of the league is significant and some say all that matters. To me I am really more interested in finding a way to match Liverpool in the first 60 minutes. I think the way we played, is a typical Stoke city/Bournemouth etc etc defending and long ball approach with better players.

Overall, for the performance 7/10, result 6/10. After taste 5/10.


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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 18 2021, 08:16 AM)
a good result. But our first half was playing with fire. This highlights how far we are from the top. First it was MC during the Carabao Cup, and next it is Liverpool today.

If we keep playing this two teams for the whole season we will end up last.

Liverpool will be frustrated no doubt but at least they tried. Man, Thiago is a beast compared to our no.6. Maestro, conductor whatever. Today it is only from their not so top form front 3, that we are spared. Just 1 goal from them would have opened the floodgates (just refer MC in Carabao cup).

Our play right now is just enough for us to scrap by into top 4 because whenever we meet top teams itll be 2 DM+ Pogba in the deep, the forwards are gonna be starved of service. You look at Salah, Firmino and Mane, they run, but they don't have to run 30 yards everytime they get the ball. Rashford has to run 30 yards to hit a wall. Because no one is near him to interchange. All our forwards including Bruno is just a man unto himself everytime they get the ball.

We will not conquer England and Europe if we don't play like Liverpool, This is the way. I'm looking for improvement in this aspect, of course the fact that we are somehow top of the league is significant and some say all that matters. To me I am really more interested in finding a way to match Liverpool in the first 60 minutes. I think the way we played, is a typical Stoke city/Bournemouth etc etc defending and long ball approach with better players.

Overall, for the performance 7/10, result 6/10. After taste 5/10.
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During ferguson time, we can also win treble the ugly way bro... U dont need to play good football pretty football all the time to win things... Our semi final with barca in UCL with scholes score the only goal shows it... And our treble final with bayern also show it... We are not playing pretty football like arsenal but we won everything... Lol... Chill down on the playing style bro... And enjoy the point haha
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Good point somehow...
Even better when the ref blowing whistle for half time oso set lot of pool off...
wonder what if its for a penalty against them...hahaha..
its always ref against them imagination..wakaka

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 18 2021, 08:16 AM)
a good result. But our first half was playing with fire. This highlights how far we are from the top. First it was MC during the Carabao Cup, and next it is Liverpool today.

If we keep playing this two teams for the whole season we will end up last.

Liverpool will be frustrated no doubt but at least they tried. Man, Thiago is a beast compared to our no.6. Maestro, conductor whatever. Today it is only from their not so top form front 3, that we are spared. Just 1 goal from them would have opened the floodgates (just refer MC in Carabao cup).

Our play right now is just enough for us to scrap by into top 4 because whenever we meet top teams itll be 2 DM+ Pogba in the deep, the forwards are gonna be starved of service. You look at Salah, Firmino and Mane, they run, but they don't have to run 30 yards everytime they get the ball. Rashford has to run 30 yards to hit a wall. Because no one is near him to interchange. All our forwards including Bruno is just a man unto himself everytime they get the ball.

We will not conquer England and Europe if we don't play like Liverpool, This is the way. I'm looking for improvement in this aspect, of course the fact that we are somehow top of the league is significant and some say all that matters. To me I am really more interested in finding a way to match Liverpool in the first 60 minutes. I think the way we played, is a typical Stoke city/Bournemouth etc etc defending and long ball approach with better players.

Overall, for the performance 7/10, result 6/10. After taste 5/10.
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i say defensively including ddg would be a good 8/10.. shaw and lindelof good 9/10... given how we manage to shut them in first half... they tried to get a result from the first min.. our midfield not much to offer... but today pogba has been good.. if only rashford timed his run better and decided to pass to cavani....

will take this one point and move on... looking at the table once mc get level on games they will be first. no 1 to no 6 can overtake each other in one or two games.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 18 2021, 08:44 AM)
During ferguson time, we can also win treble the ugly way bro... U dont need to play good football pretty football all the time to win things... Our semi final with barca in UCL with scholes score the only goal shows it... And our treble final with bayern also show it... We are not playing pretty football like arsenal but we won everything... Lol... Chill down on the playing style bro... And enjoy the point haha
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this is more to leicester title run than united treble season. If you watched the finals in 99, we were toe to toe with bayern, only thing off was with the possession.


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Good point, but still a missing opportunity. The tactic were okay, only missing a good finish. It also showed we are far from a proper title contender, as Liverpool played without proper CB.
But winning consistently against mid table teams is a mustnow, as results against big teams showed Ole not good enough tactically.
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ok result but considering liverpool are playing midfielders as their CB...pretty disappointing performance for me from United. rashford is really hot and cold..
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Walao City clean sheet again. Many many clean already. Foundation to title
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jan 18 2021, 08:57 AM)
this is more to leicester title run than united treble season. If you watched the finals in 99, we were toe to toe with bayern, only thing off was with the possession.
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Yea, but still we won from set pieces rather than open play in the end 🤣🤣 which we didn't do it... We just need rashford or martial to be as clinical as vardy and this season can be ours... Considering counter is what ole likes the most
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First 30mins or first half, Liverpool midfield and striker keep pressing and hope we can commit mistake and the backline did good to contain the pressure, 2nd half they stop pressing like mad due to strategy change or stamina issue. Not many threat apart from the 2nd ball which cause havoc in the box.

U can see Martial even drop back as LB and Shaw move inside on the left while Pogba covering right side. Leaving Bruno and Rashford upfront for counter attack. A very very organize play by the team and the bad side of it will be the passing, quite often reach the opponent third and the ball can easily snatch away by Liverpool player.

Bruno issue on the pitch i think still can sort out internally by Ole, no doubt he has the winning mentality to strive better, on one scene where Pogba shot was saved and he was down, Bruno faster hug Pogba up and ask him to continue play instead of showing face.
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The only complaint I have is rashford. Really really poor. Should have sub him with vdb. And pogba was quite good last nite. Cant believe i said that ahah

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 18 2021, 09:56 AM)
First 30mins or first half, Liverpool midfield and striker keep pressing and hope we can commit mistake and the backline did good to contain the pressure, 2nd half they stop pressing like mad due to strategy change or stamina issue. Not many threat apart from the 2nd ball which cause havoc in the box.

U can see Martial even drop back as LB and Shaw move inside on the left while Pogba covering right side. Leaving Bruno and Rashford upfront for counter attack. A very very organize play by the team and the bad side of it will be the passing, quite often reach the opponent third and the ball can easily snatch away by Liverpool player.

Bruno issue on the pitch i think still can sort out internally by Ole, no doubt he has the winning mentality to strive better, on one scene where Pogba shot was saved and he was down, Bruno faster hug Pogba up and ask him to continue play instead of showing face.
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First half our game plan was to keep it 0-0. We did that. Well organized.
See Salah who kept trying to beat Shaw in the first half. In the second half, he stopped running at Shaw and became more cautious.

We started probing Liverpool in the second half and this started to unsettle them with our breaks. They sank deeper to adjust for the danger of our counterattacks, and this took some pressure off the defence to press up. We even had all the Liverpool players in their own half at one time! I really like the fact you noticed Martial on the LW, who never allowed Shaw to get double teamed. Not many forwards are willing to make that sort of sacrifice for the team.

Bruno is a non issue. It's a winning mentality. He slapped hands with the manager and staff, he didn't storm down the tunnel. If people can recall, Rooney and Ronaldo was like that too coming off.

Rashford will learn, he's getting too much flak over one move. Our best chances fell to Bruno and Pogba.
The only reason Liverpool came out with a point was that Allison's positioning was on point on both occasions.

You don't need to constantly dominate and joga bonito to be considered a good performance. There are some which needs discipline and tactics.
Liverpool escaped with one point at Anfield. Not United. That fact outlines the progress we have made.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 18 2021, 08:44 AM)
During ferguson time, we can also win treble the ugly way bro... U dont need to play good football pretty football all the time to win things... Our semi final with barca in UCL with scholes score the only goal shows it... And our treble final with bayern also show it... We are not playing pretty football like arsenal but we won everything... Lol... Chill down on the playing style bro... And enjoy the point haha
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I'm chill, as I said it was a good point against a top side. Now, back to the pretty football. I'm not talking about Arsenal pretty, because that's just fallacy. Its never been pretty, and we've never really had a problem getting a result from them. I'm talking gegenpress high energy, up the field urgency. Not even tiki taka.

By the end of Fergie's era, it was already quite evident that Pep and MC game has reach a very high level. And don't forget we usually get whipped when we faced them. Suppose Fergie becomes immortal (yay!) and is still managing today. I would be asking for the same from him, as from Ole.

So, now that Pool has achieved this, with White Teeth Klop, I am also hoping we aspire for the same. They are not Champions of Europe multiple times by fluke. They are a good, organized, resilient, talented, and very very well drilled in the opponent's half.

We are relying on Rashford when he feels like it and Bruno when the sun is rising from the east (IE all the time).

Yes, grinding results is important method. Yes, I have seen winning ugly and enjoyed it. But those need to be tempered with playing well most of the time as Plan A.

Ask any calm Liverpool fan, they will tell you they are not so worried about this match and result. Whereas here I am saying we need to improve. We need to learn to defend and attack at the opponent's half. By then we can play with 2 emergency center backs and no issue.

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I'm chill, as I said it was a good point against a top side. Now, back to the pretty football. I'm not talking about Arsenal pretty, because that's just fallacy. Its never been pretty, and we've never really had a problem getting a result from them. I'm talking gegenpress high energy, up the field urgency. Not even tiki taka.

By the end of Fergie's era, it was already quite evident that Pep and MC game has reach a very high level. And don't forget we usually get whipped when we faced them. Suppose Fergie becomes immortal (yay!) and is still managing today. I would be asking for the same from him, as from Ole.

So, now that Pool has achieved this, with White Teeth Klop, I am also hoping we aspire for the same. They are not Champions of Europe multiple times by fluke. They are a good, organized, resilient, talented, and very very well drilled in the opponent's half.

We are relying on Rashford when he feels like it and Bruno when the sun is rising from the east (IE all the time).

Yes, grinding results is important method. Yes, I have seen winning ugly and enjoyed it. But those need to be tempered with playing well most of the time as Plan A.

Ask any calm Liverpool fan, they will tell you they are not so worried about this match and result. Whereas here I am saying we need to improve. We need to learn to defend and attack at the opponent's half. By then we can play with 2 emergency center backs and no issue.
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And dun forget that they played 2 CM as CB. Nevertheless, it's a good 1 point. If you ask me before the match, I would say we go back without a point.
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The only complaint I have is rashford. Really really poor. Should have sub him with vdb. And pogba was quite good last nite. Cant believe i said that ahah
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Our counter attacking just not in sync. Rashford always looking for a quick one two, Martial prefer to beat a player or two, Pogba producing Hollywood - esque long ball, Fernandes is more versatile and rich of ideas, but all didn't came off.

1 point is valuable point, but long way to go. Just happy to be involve in a title race.
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a good result. But our first half was playing with fire. This highlights how far we are from the top. First it was MC during the Carabao Cup, and next it is Liverpool today.

If we keep playing this two teams for the whole season we will end up last.

Liverpool will be frustrated no doubt but at least they tried. Man, Thiago is a beast compared to our no.6. Maestro, conductor whatever. Today it is only from their not so top form front 3, that we are spared. Just 1 goal from them would have opened the floodgates (just refer MC in Carabao cup).

Our play right now is just enough for us to scrap by into top 4 because whenever we meet top teams itll be 2 DM+ Pogba in the deep, the forwards are gonna be starved of service. You look at Salah, Firmino and Mane, they run, but they don't have to run 30 yards everytime they get the ball. Rashford has to run 30 yards to hit a wall. Because no one is near him to interchange. All our forwards including Bruno is just a man unto himself everytime they get the ball.

We will not conquer England and Europe if we don't play like Liverpool, This is the way. I'm looking for improvement in this aspect, of course the fact that we are somehow top of the league is significant and some say all that matters. To me I am really more interested in finding a way to match Liverpool in the first 60 minutes. I think the way we played, is a typical Stoke city/Bournemouth etc etc defending and long ball approach with better players.

Overall, for the performance 7/10, result 6/10. After taste 5/10.
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Im more leaning towards our defenders playing well to silent the front 3. Shaw totally kept Salah in his pockets while Lindelof was actively covering for Maguire against Firminho. Not sure what happened to Mane though lol, did not see him at all yesterday night. Would have thought AWB silenced him but AWB was horrible yesterday. Lazy to the say the least and bad in positioning again.

Rashy needs better football brain. He is just pressing sprint on the controller headlessly. Never felt like scoring too, so it baffles me that Martial went off instead of him. I see Martial preferring to link up at the wing with Shaw while Rashford is adamant on going into centre. Although Martial is not finishing, it would be less punishing for him to be at the wings while Cavani charges mid.

I kinda miss having a real striker in the team. Cavani's sub in made me realize how much we lack a true striker. Not in terms of scoring, but in terms of positioning, pulling defenders away and always looking to run. Our other players just looks uninterested in giving a run but instead falling back to receive a side pass from our famous side and back passer, McTominay. More often than not, the break from our team meets a wall when no supporting players are running with him.

Definitely wanted a good midfield to bolster our team but doesn't look like it will happen. The favoritism towards McT is stronk lol.

I dont see us winning the league this season unfortunately. We are just currently the least shittiest team right now, not sure if it will last another half of the season or not. Hopefully it does though lol

QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 18 2021, 08:44 AM)
During ferguson time, we can also win treble the ugly way bro... U dont need to play good football pretty football all the time to win things... Our semi final with barca in UCL with scholes score the only goal shows it... And our treble final with bayern also show it... We are not playing pretty football like arsenal but we won everything... Lol... Chill down on the playing style bro... And enjoy the point haha
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Ferguson era only 4 top teams kan lol. I think its less likely this season to just settle for draws against big team and win smaller teams if there are like 6 title contenders this season. I can get behind not playing beautiful football, but rely on counter attack. However, when we are just back passing from midfield all the way to CB and rely on lindelof to lob the ball out (expecting him to be van djik no 2) it just feels a tad bit hopeless. Especially when i see McT getting the ball, even with space in the front, I just get the feeling that a side pass or back pass is coming. I also realize that we step up our gear after the 70 min mark and usually its either a goal to win us a point or frustratingly draw 0-0.
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And dun forget that they played 2 CM as CB. Nevertheless, it's a good 1 point. If you ask me before the match, I would say we go back without a point.
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Yes they play wt 2 CM as CB.. But both did very well esp fabinho. Liverpool best player is allison and fabinho. Liverpool issue right now actually their forward

Anfield also a fortress for years now unbeaten.. Consider good we almost score twice
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 18 2021, 02:02 PM)
Im more leaning towards our defenders playing well to silent the front 3. Shaw totally kept Salah in his pockets while Lindelof was actively covering for Maguire against Firminho. Not sure what happened to Mane though lol, did not see him at all yesterday night. Would have thought AWB silenced him but AWB was horrible yesterday. Lazy to the say the least and bad in positioning again.

Rashy needs better football brain. He is just pressing sprint on the controller headlessly. Never felt like scoring too, so it baffles me that Martial went off instead of him. I see Martial preferring to link up at the wing with Shaw while Rashford is adamant on going into centre. Although Martial is not finishing, it would be less punishing for him to be at the wings while Cavani charges mid.

I kinda miss having a real striker in the team. Cavani's sub in made me realize how much we lack a true striker. Not in terms of scoring, but in terms of positioning, pulling defenders away and always looking to run. Our other players just looks uninterested in giving a run but instead falling back to receive a side pass from our famous side and back passer, McTominay. More often than not, the break from our team meets a wall when no supporting players are running with him.

Definitely wanted a good midfield to bolster our team but doesn't look like it will happen. The favoritism towards McT is stronk lol.

I dont see us winning the league this season unfortunately. We are just currently the least shittiest team right now, not sure if it will last another half of the season or not. Hopefully it does though lol
Ferguson era only 4 top teams kan lol. I think its less likely this season to just settle for draws against big team and win smaller teams if there are like 6 title contenders this season. I can get behind not playing beautiful football, but rely on counter attack. However, when we are just back passing from midfield all the way to CB and rely on lindelof to lob the ball out (expecting him to be van djik no 2) it just feels a tad bit hopeless. Especially when i see McT getting the ball, even with space in the front, I just get the feeling that a side pass or back pass is coming. I also realize that we step up our gear after the 70 min mark and usually its either a goal to win us a point or frustratingly draw 0-0.
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masial did well on the left. rashford too far up on the right i thought he was playing a 9... and often caught offside for taking off too early...

too bad didnt get the on form rash and get the usual rash.. bad decision making on final third. sweat.gif

ytd game we lack the mid engine that can direct passes and act as link between defense and attack.. macam vacuum je our midfield ytd..
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Rashford off field no selfish and distribute foods to the community but on the field he was selfish and don’t distribute the ball to his teammates
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Dont consider rashford selfish.. He likes to hold the ball too long. He need to be smarter when to pass and hold. Same goes to martial

Can see he try to pull fabinho and henderson away maybe then made the pass but clearly wrong decision. Should made the pass early
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I do not think we can challenge title this season, but putting a dent on Pool's chance is good enough for me. Seeing them on 4th now with Everton has a chance to push them to 5th. Is indeed strangely satisfying
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I do not think we can challenge title this season, but putting a dent on Pool's chance is good enough for me. Seeing them on 4th now with Everton has a chance to push them to 5th. Is indeed strangely satisfying
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chill guys, u cannot win anything under ole. he is clueless . lower down ur expectation..

top of the league is just to annoyed rivals..

thers no "if ole can win it", no he wont. u can see how his favortism ruin a game.. most of the time its bruno saving his ass.. without bruno, he got sacked already
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 18 2021, 02:13 PM)
masial did well on the left. rashford too far up on the right i thought he was playing a 9... and often caught offside for taking off too early...

too bad didnt get the on form rash and get the usual rash.. bad decision making on final third. sweat.gif

ytd game we lack the mid engine that can direct passes and act as link between defense and attack.. macam vacuum je our midfield ytd..
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We have one player that can link mid with atk and def. He just can't fit into God oles team even though only used 2 subs last night. Rather burn the sub than put in someone that might make a difference.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jan 18 2021, 06:13 PM)
We have one player that can link mid with atk and def. He just can't fit into God oles team even though only used 2 subs last night. Rather burn the sub than put in someone that might make a difference.
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We have one player that can link mid with atk and def. He just can't fit into God oles team even though only used 2 subs last night. Rather burn the sub than put in someone that might make a difference.
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Yeah, I wonder what is going through his head. At the very least, I hope he gets started in the FA Cup tie.
Heard rumours of a swap with Erikkson at Inter.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 18 2021, 02:13 PM)
masial did well on the left. rashford too far up on the right i thought he was playing a 9... and often caught offside for taking off too early...

too bad didnt get the on form rash and get the usual rash.. bad decision making on final third. sweat.gif

ytd game we lack the mid engine that can direct passes and act as link between defense and attack.. macam vacuum je our midfield ytd..
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bad decision and poor ball control
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it will be a good 1point last night if United get full 3 points against Fulham..

Shaw is a beast.. looks like he really thrives on competition.. now hopefully Telles step up and United will have 2 top LB to rotate..

Ole need to realize that he need top coaches to help him.. not his mates
why not call Meulensteen instead of Fletcher to help him out? for sure he would rather be back at United training ground than being a pundit..
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i notice mctomato can do very well if he dare to bring the ball forward. dunno instruction or he scared to do so. second half, got flashes of him bringing the ball forward solo and creating.

we need ppl to bring the ball forward and create chances like shaw yesterday. not keep pass pass pass.
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i notice mctomato can do very well if he dare to bring the ball forward. dunno instruction or he scared to do so. second half, got flashes of him bringing the ball forward solo and creating.

we need ppl to bring the ball forward and create chances like shaw yesterday. not keep pass pass pass.
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Good pick out. Glad someone noticed it too.

McT is more of a box to box midfielder, who is strong going forward. He played as a center forward in his youth days, before the coach moved him to center midfield.
He is disciplined, which is why he is being used at CDM because he's not one to bomb forward thinking he knows better. But he is not a CDM, that is why he doesn't look good alongside Fred when he is instructed to sit. First half, like many times this season, his instructions were to sit and never venture forward. He never once ventured beyond Bruno's midfield position.

He looks better when he is given the freedom to venture forward. The last game I can remember him doing so was at Leeds, which caught me by surprised. Must've caught Leeds by surprise too with those two quick goals. You can see the difference in that game, he kept venturing forward and overlapping Bruno as the advanced midfielder. It is easy to see if McT is instructed to sit, see if he ever overlaps the advanced midfielder's position. If he never does, he's been told to sit.

He can do the job but it makes him look like half the player he is, because he does not display his strength. It is like if Frank Lampard during his playing days was told to sit in deep midfield and never make forward runs. He can do it, but he's mediocre there and takes away his strength.

Ole at times needs a double pivot for defensive strength. That's not a bad thing. That's just tactics.
Fred is one spot. The other natural fit is Matic, but at his age there is no energy. Ole doesn't trust Pogba in the double pivot and we can see why. So McT plays the role.

In his natural position, McT is closer to Pogba. Minus the creative passing range, but much more disciplined.

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Its time to build around mctomato lol. Build around jogba long enough 😄
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 11:58 PM)
Good pick out. Glad someone noticed it too.

McT is more of a box to box midfielder, who is strong going forward. He played as a center forward in his youth days, before the coach moved him to center midfield.
He is disciplined, which is why he is being used at CDM because he's not one to bomb forward thinking he knows better. But he is not a CDM, that is why he doesn't look good alongside Fred when he is instructed to sit. First half, like many times this season, his instructions were to sit and never venture forward. He never once ventured beyond Bruno's midfield position.

He looks better when he is given the freedom to venture forward. The last game I can remember him doing so was at Leeds, which caught me by surprised. Must've caught Leeds by surprise too with those two quick goals. You can see the difference in that game, he kept venturing forward and overlapping Bruno as the advanced midfielder. It is easy to see if McT is instructed to sit, see if he ever overlaps the advanced midfielder's position. If he never does, he's been told to sit.

He can do the job but it makes him look like half the player he is, because he does not display his strength. It is like if Frank Lampard during his playing days was told to sit in deep midfield and never make forward runs. He can do it, but he's mediocre there and takes away his strength.

Ole at times needs a double pivot for defensive strength. That's not a bad thing. That's just tactics.
Fred is one spot. The other natural fit is Matic, but at his age there is no energy. Ole doesn't trust Pogba in the double pivot and we can see why. So McT plays the role.

In his natural position, McT is closer to Pogba. Minus the creative passing range, but much more disciplined.
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Mc Tom is a decent player, he is work hard, discipline and got physical attribute.

For the whole 38 matches, Mc Tom can play but I don't convince against 6 big teams that need a fine line or being an intrusive decision that made the whole different

He does not dare to move forward most of 90 minutes that made us lack of attacking option. Bruno need to step back to receive the ball and bring the ball forward

If Pogba play at his position he could deliver the ball forward with his strength long passes that kind find Martial, Rashford, Cavani or even James if Ole decide to play more defensive






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Dont consider rashford selfish.. He likes to hold the ball too long. He need to be smarter when to pass and hold. Same goes to martial

Can see he try to pull fabinho and henderson away maybe then made the pass but clearly wrong decision. Should made the pass early
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You can see from Cavani’s body language when Rashford dribble the ball away, he didn’t even continue to run and hope Rashford can pass the ball, he just turn around and shout at the coach area, this showing how disappointed of him on Rashford, may be this is not first time did this even during training. Fabiano and Henderson don’t even care Cavani was there and they know Rashford’s playing style by just closing him down cuz if normal defender, 1 will follow and the other normally close down Cavani, if they split, then chances of Rashford pull one defender away and shoot was high cuz that’s what he did for many times

6 years playing more than 100 games and his decision making was still very poor. Yes, his stats look good but he is not that type of forward that can lead us to win the league.
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Let's talk the Fulham game.

I think McFred will be rested. Might start with Matic-Pogba in the middle.
Cavani to start in the number 9 spot. VDB to stay frozen on the bench.

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Let's talk the Fulham game.

I think McFred will be rested. Might start with Matic-Pogba in the middle.
Cavani to start in the number 9 spot. VDB to stay frozen on the bench.
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If nothing changes, expecting cavani, Greenwood, rash and bruno behind them, matic, pogba in the mid, Shaw, Harry, bailly and AWB behind.
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If nothing changes, expecting cavani, Greenwood, rash and bruno behind them, matic, pogba in the mid, Shaw, Harry, bailly and AWB behind.
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Exactly the lineup I had with one exception.
I was thinking Telles might start in place of Shaw at LB. Matic playing means Telles is better covered then going forward.
But I see the case for Shaw, how do you drop him after a MotM performance at Liverpool.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 20 2021, 12:41 AM)
You can see from Cavani’s body language when Rashford dribble the ball away, he didn’t even continue to run and hope Rashford can pass the ball, he just turn around and shout at the coach area, this showing how disappointed of him on Rashford, may be this is not first time did this even during training. Fabiano and Henderson don’t even care Cavani was there and they know Rashford’s playing style by just closing him down cuz if normal defender, 1 will follow and the other normally close down Cavani, if they split, then chances of Rashford pull one defender away and shoot was high cuz that’s what he did for many times

6 years playing more than 100 games and his decision making was still very poor. Yes, his stats look good but he is not that type of forward that can lead us to win the league.
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Rashford has to change, either Ole or the coaching team has to do something on it, he is like the young Ronaldo who keep on dribble and refuse to pass the ball, someone has to guide him using soft or hard approach.

It recall me the season of 04/05 of Ronaldo, i almost curse him every match for dribbling the ball and lost possession easily.
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Let's talk the Fulham game.

I think McFred will be rested. Might start with Matic-Pogba in the middle.
Cavani to start in the number 9 spot. VDB to stay frozen on the bench.
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Pogba is on form while Bruno is off form, maybe it is time for VDB-Matic-Pogba combination?
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Pogba is on form while Bruno is off form, maybe it is time for VDB-Matic-Pogba combination?
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Bruno is the opposite of VDB, I don't think Ole dares drop him.
Ole already said in the press conference Fulham are going to be hard to break down. You'll need Bruno's creativity in this game, possibly paired with Pogba too if Fulham sits deep with 2 banks of 4.

Bruno hopefuly will be rested during the FA cup tie and VDB given a run out there.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 20 2021, 11:09 AM)
Bruno is the opposite of VDB, I don't think Ole dares drop him.
Ole already said in the press conference Fulham are going to be hard to break down. You'll need Bruno's creativity in this game, possibly paired with Pogba too if Fulham sits deep with 2 banks of 4.

Bruno hopefuly will be rested during the FA cup tie and VDB given a run out there..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 20 2021, 11:09 AM)
Bruno is the opposite of VDB, I don't think Ole dares drop him.
Ole already said in the press conference Fulham are going to be hard to break down. You'll need Bruno's creativity in this game, possibly paired with Pogba too if Fulham sits deep with 2 banks of 4.

Bruno hopefuly will be rested during the FA cup tie and VDB given a run out there.
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we have FA cup tie on Monday 1am against Liverpool, i think he will get some rest.
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sure or not. later sub in 89 mins  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 20 2021, 10:53 AM)
Rashford has to change, either Ole or the coaching team has to do something on it, he is like the young Ronaldo who keep on dribble and refuse to pass the ball, someone has to guide him using soft or hard approach.

It recall me the season of 04/05 of Ronaldo, i almost curse him every match for dribbling the ball and lost possession easily.
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Ronaldo was selfish during his young days but then get improved on that, this kind of situation Ronaldo will pass to Cavani. Ronaldo will only do dribbling when his teammates did not have clear chances

Rashford needs to change, 6 years playing top fight football and yet he keep repeating the same act. If he keeps on for another 2 years, I don’t think he will listening to someone by that time
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 20 2021, 12:47 PM)
Ronaldo was selfish during his young days but then get improved on that, this kind of situation Ronaldo will pass to Cavani. Ronaldo will only do dribbling when his teammates did not have clear chances

Rashford needs to change, 6 years playing top fight football and yet he keep repeating the same act. If he keeps on for another 2 years, I don’t think he will listening to someone by that time
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Agreed, with now his status as MBE and regular player for England and Man Utd, he will be hard to coach on this matter. Ronaldo improvise his play according to age, above age 30 he dribble less and focus on positioning more.

Martial on the other hand is more willing to pass in this situation, but his shooting for this season is really bad sweat.gif

Maybe can ask Fletcher to conduct one session and keep tackle Rashford until he pass the ball.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 20 2021, 12:47 PM)
Ronaldo was selfish during his young days but then get improved on that, this kind of situation Ronaldo will pass to Cavani. Ronaldo will only do dribbling when his teammates did not have clear chances

Rashford needs to change, 6 years playing top fight football and yet he keep repeating the same act. If he keeps on for another 2 years, I don’t think he will listening to someone by that time
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rashford not a natural striker, but play like he is a striker
martial not a natural striker, but he think he is the best no.9
greenwood IS a natural striker, but OLE the clueless think he need to play winger until he can learn to head the ball properly
ighalo is a natural striker, but too heavy and lucky to be in this team out of last minute desperate shit bodo FUK
cavani is a natural striker, but already past his prime
haaland is a natural striker, but raiola is a shit-bag

OLE is a natural striker, but failed to identify his own team finishing problem., instead he keep on chasing player like grealish, sancho,


i wonder why ..maybe he really clueless, or coach is shit, ..or dont know
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 20 2021, 09:30 AM)
Exactly the lineup I had with one exception.
I was thinking Telles might start in place of Shaw at LB. Matic playing means Telles is better covered then going forward.
But I see the case for Shaw, how do you drop him after a MotM performance at Liverpool.
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Telles could also come in, but Shaw won't be happy, unless it's to keep him fresh for the next game. Might be good if it's to let him play for 45-60 then swap in telles.

Sub decision is still a weakness for ole but win or lose, he knows how to make players happy and content.
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i dont think vdb will come in, kesian lol. because too long no play, i also no confident in him d to win 3 points at fulham haha

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 20 2021, 12:41 AM)
You can see from Cavani’s body language when Rashford dribble the ball away, he didn’t even continue to run and hope Rashford can pass the ball, he just turn around and shout at the coach area, this showing how disappointed of him on Rashford, may be this is not first time did this even during training. Fabiano and Henderson don’t even care Cavani was there and they know Rashford’s playing style by just closing him down cuz if normal defender, 1 will follow and the other normally close down Cavani, if they split, then chances of Rashford pull one defender away and shoot was high cuz that’s what he did for many times

6 years playing more than 100 games and his decision making was still very poor. Yes, his stats look good but he is not that type of forward that can lead us to win the league.
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I dont know what is the hype on Rashford.
I know some (if not most) will disagree with me, I really feel he is very selfish on the pitch.
I dont want to comment his off the pitch personality.
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Solskjaer: I've proven I can take Manchester United forward

https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...-united-forward

Dia start poyo dah. Tunggulah menang trophy dulu 😅
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Jan 20 2021, 04:05 PM)
I dont know what is the hype on Rashford.
I know some (if not most) will disagree with me, I really feel he is very selfish on the pitch.
I dont want to comment his off the pitch personality.
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not wrong. haha he has proven to have bad decision making in final third over and over again. just that he will run and vs big teams he will finish. but too bad vs lfc he didnt do that. biggrin.gif
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I am still OleOut. He's proven he is something but not yet MUFC grade. Our standards cannot be so low. But he is improving, I'll give him that. Perhaps I will the first to build him a statue...
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I am still OleOut. He's proven he is something but not yet MUFC grade. Our standards cannot be so low. But he is improving, I'll give him that. Perhaps I will the first to build him a statue...
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at least he usually start bad but end better, so hopefully more improvements to come, doesnt matter he in or out, just do what he need to do to keep us at close to the title challenge will do.. not like lampard every season also started flying then collapse half way thru the season... lol... this season they spent 200mil somemore...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 20 2021, 06:23 PM)
at least he usually start bad but end better, so hopefully more improvements to come, doesnt matter he in or out, just do what he need to do to keep us at close to the title challenge will do.. not like lampard every season also started flying then collapse half way thru the season... lol... this season they spent 200mil somemore...
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Even now, I wouldn't be so quick to judge lampard. Or even arteta.
To me they + ole are in the same category of serious probation and not yet achieved anything of note. Except ole has spent a lot too, and has the longest time and managing the biggest club.
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Jan 20 2021, 04:05 PM)
I dont know what is the hype on Rashford.
I know some (if not most) will disagree with me, I really feel he is very selfish on the pitch.
I dont want to comment his off the pitch personality.
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I think fans are too harsh on him after that noob decision not to pass to cavani. I actually feel during live that time cavani is blocking his run, cavani cross in front of him which I feel wrong run. But then he still can pass but sendiri stumbled after dribble into penalty spot lol.

He has load of potential, scoring sublime goals but equally frustrating sometimes. Can't expect him be messi for now but he will be better and better for sure.

His number of goals this season is pretty healthy. A few mediocre performances then kena bash seems too high standard d.
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Jan 20 2021, 04:05 PM)
I dont know what is the hype on Rashford.
I know some (if not most) will disagree with me, I really feel he is very selfish on the pitch.
I dont want to comment his off the pitch personality.
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If you judge a single game for the whole as your conclusion about Rashford then you are unfair

Yes that game is one of the most important or the most important that he made fool decision but you need to look at the contribution of his other games as well

He is the one who crosses the ball to Pogba against Southampton that 3 vital points for United, he scored vital goals against other teams that we won 9 games 2 draws

So it is biased to blame him for a single game but he needs to learn not to do the same mistake ever again

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Bad one AWB
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Bad one AWB
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Good goal
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Almost bruno magic lol

edit: bruno magic happened a few seconds later lol

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greenwood playing negatively with his back passes. not doing anything
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the lack of movement, football intelligence and tactical acumen is worrying
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What a hit
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What the fuck was that pogba!!!?????? holy shittttt
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that control from pogba is super class .. and that shot from there.. not many can do that ..
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Kinda weird sub for Ole. Shouldnt VDB come in for bruno after we scored the goal? Instead we let our player run for 85 minutes and sub greenwood out?
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A good win
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Its mind boggling how we always sit back and let pressure mount on us during the final minutes. And its always in a situation where we're only 1 goal up.

Mix that with Ole's 85 , 89 , 90+3 min sub, i just cant wrap my head around it
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Enjoy the win guys... Its nerve wrecking but fulham has been playing very good lately... Just that they not easy to score goals.. if they have good strikers they wouldn't be at relegation battle...
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 21 2021, 06:11 AM)
Its mind boggling how we always sit back and let pressure mount on us during the final minutes. And its always in a situation where we're only 1 goal up.

Mix that with Ole's 85 , 89 , 90+3 min sub, i just cant wrap my head around it
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he should have sub greenwood earlier. he has been useless all day. AWB do all the dribbling and run past players on his own.
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pogba control, skip pass players, with weaker foot ..thats magic.. but shaw tracking back and intercept that cross won the game..

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 21 2021, 06:23 AM)
pogba control, skip pass players, with weaker foot ..thats magic.. but shaw tracking back and intercept that cross won the game..
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Shaw man. What a beast of a player. I used to think he doesn't have the stamina for full 90, but holy shit, he's been running all game for so many in a row tiredlessly. Could it be the Telles factor?

Now we need someone to challenge AWB in the RB position doh.gif
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Suddenly no Jogba this Jogba that?
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Suddenly no Jogba this Jogba that?
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lol no more Jogba.. play him further up, he will come good.. why the hell keep playing him deep, of course he'll loose the ball in dangerous position..

Shaw keep getting better n better.. hope he gets a goal or two soon..

Good 3 points.. Fulham is a better coached team but United have way better players on the pitch.. individual brilliance strikes again lol.. long may it continue
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Cavani has been good the whole match, hardworking, positioning, pressing, could have second goal if not the keeper gila on form
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bruno really needs a good rest
but martial greenwood and rashford have been missing badly this few matches
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Dirty win but we take it all day then winning 7-0 then not scoring 4 the next 7 games hahahaha
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i already told u guys that pogba long shot is better than others.
instead make him pass in final third, ole better instruc him to shot while he can. this season, rashford, martial, greenwood seem missing hope ole can boost their morale
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Rest Fernandes, and play Pogba as proper AM.

The likes of VDB and Telles also need a run of games.
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Kinda weird sub for Ole. Shouldnt VDB come in for bruno after we scored the goal? Instead we let our player run for 85 minutes and sub greenwood out?
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Another good win to keep up our run of games.
With enough quality players, we don't need to depend on one. When Bruno isn't on fire, it's good to see Pogba stepping up. That was magic.
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i cant believe it either
but that is like 1-2 good games, 8 games shitty games tongue.gif
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world cup winning jogba macam sudah return. won 6 points for us already. though the first goal is partly his fault, choose the easy offside trap instead of tracking.

QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jan 21 2021, 06:23 AM)
pogba control, skip pass players, with weaker foot ..thats magic.. but shaw tracking back and intercept that cross won the game..

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lucky shaw got the awareness and track that mitro. saw mitro open and shaw also saw that too. if awb, sure gg. awb is getting worse and worse zzzz. as usual 2 corners header from maguire and fly to stand. more training please.

cavani is a proper center fwd. can start him all day long
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i cant believe it either
but that is like 1-2 good games, 8 games shitty games tongue.gif
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now is 3-4 good games, then shitty games? haha. i thought this match will return as shitty games when he give in the first goal

silently breaking record.
As it was, United remain the only unbeaten Premier League team on the road and have now equaled their club record of 17 Premier League away games without defeat, a tally originally set by Ferguson's all-conquering 1999 Treble-winning side.

on the other hand, city another clean sheet win. sudah lost count how many already this season

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shaw has actually been stepping up since last year? just that didnt get consistent run and was injured on off previously.

cant believe he is just 25 and joined us for 7 8 years liao. just hope he stay fit and keep on improving..
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shaw has actually been stepping up since last year? just that didnt get consistent run and was injured on off previously.

cant believe he is just 25 and joined us for 7 8 years liao. just hope he stay fit and keep on improving..
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He survived and hopefully will continue to maintain high performance.
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City's form been good recently... only 2 points behind with a game on hand. Need to keep our form like this.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jan 20 2021, 06:59 PM)
Even now, I wouldn't be so quick to judge lampard. Or even arteta.
To me they + ole are in the same category of serious probation and not yet achieved anything of note. Except ole has spent a lot too, and has the longest time and managing the biggest club.
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well ole have the luck that they dont have... under ole we broke alot of records, the bad and the good ones... for lampard.. i dont think he has it yet, he is younger than ole and also way lesser managing experience.. plus he dont have that sort of luck to come back from a slump... lol
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just noticed that we scored more goals in EPL this season than Man City, and just one goal lesser than liverpool ni... imagine if rashford and martial are on form... we would cruise to the title already... haiz
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 21 2021, 12:09 PM)
well ole have the luck that they dont have... under ole we broke alot of records, the bad and the good ones... for lampard.. i dont think he has it yet, he is younger than ole and also way lesser managing experience.. plus he dont have that sort of luck to come back from a slump... lol
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Lampard not much of managing experience and recently he is under pressure, if cannot delivery confirm the Russian boss will sack him after investing 200mil on the squad.

Ole replicate what SAF best in man management, that's why the dressing room always is positive mood and always fight for winning.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 21 2021, 12:18 PM)
Lampard not much of managing experience and recently he is under pressure, if cannot delivery confirm the Russian boss will sack him after investing 200mil on the squad.

Ole replicate what SAF best in man management, that's why the dressing room always is positive mood and always fight for winning.
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yeah at least i dont feel the changing room is like LVG or Jomo era despite we were on losing streak.. can see that the dressing room still behind ole.. at least during PC, players will blame themselves rather than speechless because of their relationship with the manager.. Ole still got alot of naivety but this unavoidable for a young manager... and ole wont just give up in front of the press like lampard and arteta did... you cant tell the public 'i just dont know what to do to make the club go forward'... lol
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Hard to believe we have a semi working Pogba now, but I'll be damned if he can cut out the extra pull back everytime he touches the ball. It works well 50% of the time and 50% get tackled because he dwell too long.

Doesn't he realize that a simple touch and go is better?

And he also needs to wake up immediately from whistle. Not take 6mins to start the match....other than that, yeah he is world class.

Fulham was dull as a rock and yet we struggle to penetrate or create clear chances....we got by by the skin of our teeth this time. Another time of I'll take those 3 points win ugly?

At least this time we push up and press very high, maintain high pressure on Fulham. Leadership by example from Cavani.

Just imagine if our wing play is better. I mean Martial did nothing, and neither did Greenwood. On the left we have a better LB in Shaw, but on the right, it is looking fragile for 2 years, with AWB. Attacks break down by themselves on the right.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 21 2021, 12:23 PM)
yeah at least i dont feel the changing room is like LVG or Jomo era despite we were on losing streak.. can see that the dressing room still behind ole.. at least during PC, players will blame themselves rather than speechless because of their relationship with the manager.. Ole still got alot of naivety but this unavoidable for a young manager... and ole wont just give up in front of the press like lampard and arteta did... you cant tell the public 'i just dont know what to do to make the club go forward'... lol
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Ole will protect their player at all cost, unless they commit serious mistake on that game, most of the time he will just answer lightly and move away. He know how SAF man manage the player and using the same tactic. LVG and JOMO will hantam the player in front of press, making the player demotivated and influence the others.

Lampard at Derby didn't achieve much at Derby, then all of sudden got Chelsea job. Arteta used to be Guardiola assistant and jump as Arsenal manager. Both of them still inexperience for me, at least Ole has manage Molde for 5-6 seasons and Cardiff in short stint, before that he was youth coach for us. That's why these big jobs aren't easy to handle, which u can understand why Gerrard opt for Ranger job and Xavi turn down Barca manager role.
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Hard to believe we have a semi working Pogba now, but I'll be damned if he can cut out the extra pull back everytime he touches the ball. It works well 50% of the time and 50% get tackled because he dwell too long.

Doesn't he realize that a simple touch and go is better?

And he also needs to wake up immediately from whistle. Not take 6mins to start the match....other than that, yeah he is world class.

Fulham was dull as a rock and yet we struggle to penetrate or create clear chances....we got by by the skin of our teeth this time. Another time of I'll take those 3 points win ugly?

At least this time we push up and press very high, maintain high pressure on Fulham. Leadership by example from Cavani.

Just imagine if our wing play is better. I mean Martial did nothing, and neither did Greenwood. On the left we have a better LB in Shaw, but on the right, it is looking fragile for 2 years, with AWB. Attacks break down by themselves on the right.
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their defensive drill also like rock bro... lol... there are reasons why they able to stole points from the great teams.. scott parker have drilled them really well.. if only their strikers performing better... they would not be at relegation places... lol... but yea we reli need proper wingers... our right hand side cacat since last season... with greenwood lost his shooting boots... it got worse off... and at such a crucial season where we might get something out of it..
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yesterday match can see martial very frust with shaw wavelength haha. i also frust with both of them. not on same wave length. communicate more in training la.

Really wow. Another record broken. I was aware of this during the game but i thought fulham rarely lead in the game, of course record nice la. but wow 40 games streak.

"Scott Parker's Fulham had never lost a game in which they had taken the lead. They had previously gone ahead in 40 games, winning 34 and drawing the other four. But they lost that record here."

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 21 2021, 10:47 AM)
world cup winning jogba macam sudah return. won 6 points for us already. though the first goal is partly his fault, choose the easy offside trap instead of tracking.
lucky shaw got the awareness and track that mitro. saw mitro open and shaw also saw that too. if awb, sure gg. awb is getting worse and worse zzzz. as usual 2 corners header from maguire and fly to stand. more training please.

cavani is a proper center fwd. can start him all day long
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That was due to AWB for sure. Facing across the field, he should follow the offside line set by others.
Pity VDB. Still cant get a game. Should have subbed him in instead of Rashford.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 21 2021, 12:35 PM)
their defensive drill also like rock bro... lol... there are reasons why they able to stole points from the great teams.. scott parker have drilled them really well.. if only their strikers performing better... they would not be at relegation places... lol... but yea we reli need proper wingers... our right hand side cacat since last season... with greenwood lost his shooting boots... it got worse off... and at such a crucial season where we might get something out of it..
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Greenwood got the ball and then pass back for the whole 90mins. Din even try to take on the opponent once. I think he lost some of the confidence compare to last season.
Btw, watched City game for the last 20min. Their first goal not consider offiside? New rule?

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 21 2021, 01:56 PM)
Greenwood got the ball and then pass back for the whole 90mins. Din even try to take on the opponent once. I think he lost some of the confidence compare to last season.
Btw, watched City game for the last 20min. Their first goal not consider offiside? New rule?
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yea... look like offside... close call or no protest? hmm.gif
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anyone subs to MUTV? if watch live game.. gt?
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yea... look like offside... close call or no protest?  hmm.gif
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anyone subs to MUTV? if watch live game.. gt?
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got protest until the manager kena sent off
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yea... look like offside... close call or no protest?  hmm.gif
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anyone subs to MUTV? if watch live game.. gt?
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definitely no live game due to programming rights.

i also don't think u can get full 90m video (after final whistle) unless u use VPN and hide your Malaysian IP.

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got protest until the manager kena sent off
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I missed the game.. tot its tonight 🙁

QUOTE(tohff7 @ Jan 21 2021, 02:31 PM)
definitely no live game due to programming rights.

i also don't think u can get full 90m video (after final whistle) unless u use VPN and hide your Malaysian IP.
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Im watch live streaming go find working link but seems bot all are working well and some link too much ads.. lol.. want to subs but not sure can watch live stream
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astro on the go is quite good. that's a + for me. can record on the cloud. no need wake up midnight see haha

just watch city first goal too. how the heck rodri not interfering with play is beyond me. if rodri is onside and beside mings, mings will never chest the ball down. or maybe mings noob dun understand the rule of football like most players on the pitch also lol. even pep is bemused.

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I missed the game.. tot its tonight 🙁
Im watch live streaming go find working link but seems bot all are working well and some link too much ads.. lol.. want to subs but not sure can watch live stream
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https://live.footybite.com/

Usually I watch Weak_Spell or EddenSport.

Install Adblock Plus extension if you are using Chrome. It will block all the popups and ads. Those 2 links only need to click once and no pop-ups (since blocked)

Watching on smartphone will be another matter lol
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 21 2021, 01:56 PM)
Greenwood got the ball and then pass back for the whole 90mins. Din even try to take on the opponent once. I think he lost some of the confidence compare to last season.
Btw, watched City game for the last 20min. Their first goal not consider offiside? New rule?
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he kinda feel like ashley young at the season where he have no confident to take on opponent... a winger that dont dare to take on opponent is like a broken wing already... even AWB also try to be more adventurous than him... one season wonder reli best describe him now greenwood
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 21 2021, 05:58 PM)
he kinda feel like ashley young at the season where he have no confident to take on opponent... a winger that dont dare to take on opponent is like a broken wing already... even AWB also try to be more adventurous than him... one season wonder reli best describe him now greenwood
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 21 2021, 05:58 PM)
he kinda feel like ashley young at the season where he have no confident to take on opponent... a winger that dont dare to take on opponent is like a broken wing already... even AWB also try to be more adventurous than him... one season wonder reli best describe him now greenwood
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It's partly the club's fault for Greenwood. It is the Rooney syndrome.

It is when a young player keeps playing in a position that best suits the club but not his own development. Rooney was an explosive forward when he joined us. At the end of his time at United, what was Rooney's best position? There is an argument that Rooney never scaled the heights of his potential like Ronaldo because he was always willing to cut a shift in whatever position Sir Alex deployed him in. Even tracking midfield runners in front of defence. Everyone knew Ronaldo would be out on the wing cutting in. Tevez would be upfront. Rooney would float to whatever role he was needed.

Greenwood did so well last season because he played in his best position. This season he's been asked to play on the wing which is a different set of skills. He is there not because he is the best at RW or because it aids his development, it is because the club has no options at RW and ends up sticking him there. Even Pogba got stuck on the RW at Liverpool and even though he did a good job, it wasn't anywhere near his best. We, Manchester United, are wrecking one of the best young strikers coming out of the academy. Stick Greenwood back into a striker role when subbing him in. If there is no place for him beyond Cavani and Martial, let him out on loan where he can start frequently being the main striker. Then recall Tahith Chong or a proper winger to play on RW.

TLDR - It's not fair to fault Greenwood this season.

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QUOTE(tohff7 @ Jan 21 2021, 04:44 PM)
https://live.footybite.com/

Usually I watch Weak_Spell or EddenSport.

Install Adblock Plus extension if you are using Chrome. It will block all the popups and ads. Those 2 links only need to click once and no pop-ups (since blocked)

Watching on smartphone will be another matter lol
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Could have been us that does it lol

But still a cheerful morning in an awful pandemic lel

And what better way to end it than with a penalty too
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that's happen when the team depending on single/selected player & single tactic.
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Everyone can see this coming. Players will get injured or burned out.
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hold ur horses... we need a good results in fa first.. play vdb pls
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Read only, not gonna troll them. biggrin.gif
We United fans are better than that!

Yes, if VDB doesn't start in the FA Cup tie, his United future looks very bleak and he probably has to leave to save his national team spot.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 22 2021, 10:22 AM)
Read only, not gonna troll them. biggrin.gif
We United fans are better than that!

Yes, if VDB doesn't start in the FA Cup tie, his United future looks very bleak and he probably has to leave to save his national team spot.
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hopefully he plays... he can take that mcT spot... Fred at the moment is undroppable. so much energy..

hope to see some new faces from the lineup in fa cup. but its liverpool. ole might go field a similar strong lineup too..

maybe bruno can get a rest and comes in at 60 mins..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 22 2021, 10:28 AM)
hopefully he plays... he can take that mcT spot... Fred at the moment is undroppable. so much energy..

hope to see some new faces from the lineup in fa cup. but its liverpool. ole might go field a similar strong lineup too..

maybe bruno can get a rest and comes in at 60 mins..
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I would prefer Fred to get a rest, and go with Matic - VDB instead.
Bruno should absolutely not start this one in my opinion. He's gonna burn out.

Give someone else a chance at trying that no.10 spot as we need to prepare for contingencies.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 22 2021, 10:34 AM)
I would prefer Fred to get a rest, and go with Matic - VDB instead.
Bruno should absolutely not start this one in my opinion. He's gonna burn out.

Give someone else a chance at trying that no.10 spot as we need to prepare for contingencies.
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Bruno past 2 games does look frus... maybe a little bit trying to do too much on his own and definitely deserved a rest after so many games.. the 10 roles pogba can go back at it..

Fred doesnt seem to be slowing down though... and rather have him with VDB together than to completely change the two midfield in front of dinosaur Maguire.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 22 2021, 10:28 AM)
hopefully he plays... he can take that mcT spot... Fred at the moment is undroppable. so much energy..

hope to see some new faces from the lineup in fa cup. but its liverpool. ole might go field a similar strong lineup too..

maybe bruno can get a rest and comes in at 60 mins..
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probably need to rest fred. mct din start last game. so maybe start him alongside vdb.

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