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post Mar 11 2021, 12:25 PM

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post Mar 11 2021, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 11 2021, 12:22 PM)
Well, I am reserving judgement until this summer transfer window is over to see if there are any positive effects from this appointment. To see if the way we conduct ourselves is any different.

Right now, I'm not having any expectations that the appointments will amount to anything.
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Somebody draw this hierarchy at twitter


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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 11 2021, 02:45 PM)
Somebody draw this hierarchy at twitter


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Yeah, doesn't change things for me. Same ingredients that have been in the soup for years.
That said, let's not be too quick to criticise it. Let's see how we conduct ourselves this summer. If it is the same trainwreck results from last summer, then start the #GlazersOutWoodwardOut train again.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 11 2021, 02:45 PM)
Somebody draw this hierarchy at twitter


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What does the fans expect?
DoF and Ole same level as Woodward?
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post Mar 11 2021, 07:51 PM

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Nothing to expect. Same ingredients as someone mentioned
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post Mar 11 2021, 08:35 PM

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Suddenly we have DoF not so long after Bruno Fernandes refused the new contract negotiation because he wants to know the club's direction hmm.gif

Well, if that so, Bruno should stop holding further negotiation, until we have a new proven CB partnership cool2.gif

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post Mar 11 2021, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 11 2021, 02:45 PM)
Somebody draw this hierarchy at twitter


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John Murtough was from Everton that Moyes brings him together in 2013. The recipe of failure started from here

It just about changing the cover and box with the same item inside. And with Ed Wood at the top, you can see nothing much can change

Hope he proves me wrong but nothing to shout about.
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Mar 11 2021, 09:04 PM)
Suddenly we have DoF not so long after Bruno Fernandes refused the new contract negotiation because he wants to know the club's direction  hmm.gif

Well,  if that so, Bruno should stop holding further negotiation, until we have a new proven CB partnership cool2.gif
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The Board will give 3rd or 4th option or none of them

Just look at the previous transfer window Ole really wanted RW, LB, CB and CDM/CM

What the Board gave to Ole are half-fit striker, tho Cavani is a prolific striker/ promising RW Diallo (not yet 1st eleven material) /

CM, not Ole list but VDB is really good again Ole rarely use him / and Telles a decent LB


I don't expect anything much from the Board, and the history might repeating again
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post Mar 11 2021, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Mar 11 2021, 09:04 PM)
Suddenly we have DoF not so long after Bruno Fernandes refused the new contract negotiation because he wants to know the club's direction  hmm.gif

Well,  if that so, Bruno should stop holding further negotiation, until we have a new proven CB partnership cool2.gif
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Talking about Bruno, what an elite mentality. He is the only one amongst our current players that would thrive and be a model in Sir Alex's squad with the big characters in there.
He is the leader in the club. Probably the real captain in the eyes of most fans and he is using his position to force the club to match his (And the fans) ambition.

Bruno isn't committing because he is seeing what is happening in the club and wants assurances on the club's strategy to challenge for titles before he signs anything. New CB? Probably yes.
But also the situation with our other players like Pogba. If we do let him go, who are United bringing in to plug that world class gap? Woodward better not say James Garner (All due respect to him as he still needs time to grow). Bruno is one of the best players in the world right now and he knows the next couple of years is key for him in winning titles. We bloody need players with elite mentality like him.

I don't think we are in any risk of losing Bruno next season even. But the season after that, other clubs will start tapping him up if he continues to play for a club that challenges for no titles.
That'll be a sad day for fans.
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Mar 11 2021, 10:08 PM)
John Murtough was from Everton that Moyes brings him together in 2013. The recipe of failure started from here

It just about changing the cover and box with the same item inside. And with Ed Wood at the top, you can see nothing much can change

Hope he proves me wrong but nothing to shout about.
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The nightmare start not because of Murtough

When David Gill announce on Feb 2013 that he will step down by the summer 2013, SAF announce his retirement later on by May 2013.

When Moyes step in, he enter around July 2013 and he left about a month for preparation and get into summer transfer market. By right he should come in May or June 2013 and slowly took over the job and get proper hand over and seek guidance from SAF. Further that, he decided not to take over SAF coaching team like Mike Phelan and René Meulensteen and brought his own. When he left one month half on summer market, u think he can get player which the club want?


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 11 2021, 10:47 PM)
Talking about Bruno, what an elite mentality. He is the only one amongst our current players that would thrive and be a model in Sir Alex's squad with the big characters in there.
He is the leader in the club. Probably the real captain in the eyes of most fans and he is using his position to force the club to match his (And the fans) ambition.

Bruno isn't committing because he is seeing what is happening in the club and wants assurances on the club's strategy to challenge for titles before he signs anything. New CB? Probably yes.
But also the situation with our other players like Pogba. If we do let him go, who are United bringing in to plug that world class gap? Woodward better not say James Garner (All due respect to him as he still needs time to grow). Bruno is one of the best players in the world right now and he knows the next couple of years is key for him in winning titles. We bloody need players with elite mentality like him.

I don't think we are in any risk of losing Bruno next season even. But the season after that, other clubs will start tapping him up if he continues to play for a club that challenges for no titles.
That'll be a sad day for fans.
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Bruno still has contract until 2025, this would be his last contract because he will be 31/32 by then.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 11 2021, 10:54 PM)
Bruno still has contract until 2025, this would be his last contract because he will be 31/32 by then.
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when mata wages is higher than bruno.

feeling stronk sadge....ROFL

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 11 2021, 10:51 PM)
The nightmare start not because of Murtough

When David Gill announce on Feb 2013 that he will step down by the summer 2013, SAF announce his retirement later on by May 2013.

When Moyes step in, he enter around July 2013 and he left about a month for preparation and get into summer transfer market. By right he should come in May or June 2013 and slowly took over the job and get proper hand over and seek guidance from SAF. Further that, he decided not to take over SAF coaching team like Mike Phelan and René Meulensteen and brought his own. When he left one month half on summer market, u think he can get player which the club want?
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Part of a failure's Moyes not from Moyes side but Moyes "sacking" all the SAF coaching team that knew everything in and out of players was risky and proven he is made a wrong decision

And Moyes "forcing" Vidic and Ferdinand to watch a video of how Everton's defender play shows his standard is low from the beginning

Fixing something that is not broken is a fatal mistake.
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One of Ole's hallmark now is he finds a way to win whenever he is under pressure. It's just like Sir Alex's teams finding that late goal.

PL managers probably fear playing United at this point if there is media news of Ole's job being at risk. Because he's like the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.
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