990 evo plus vs legend 960, which should i go? AI says 990, price about 100 difference

This post has been edited by jwgs0010: Sep 18 2025, 09:35 AM

990 evo plus is DRAMless

legend 960 is with DRAM

For OS bootdrive, I would prefer SSD with DRAM

How does the NV3 compared with the MP44L? Not sure which PNY is decent there are so many models. I haven't been keeping track on SSDs in general.

Im guessing about the same, these cheapo SSD usually DRAMless and have the crappiest controllers plus QLC NAND (TLC if your lucky), however NV series are often the cheapest price and just for game/storage the hardware specs isnt as critical.

For PNY generally any thats cheapest but careful that you didnt get M2 SATA version as that runs on SATA speeds.

Another choice team group

t-force g70 pro 1tb

or

Crucial T500 1tb





This post has been edited by adamtayy: Sep 18 2025, 08:49 PM

Yup, good choice basically same hardware as Adata S70, and also others like Acer Predator GM7000, Lexar NM800 Pro

Their all very similar so buy whichever cheapest.

I looked at the specs again and was surprised to see that the TBW specs were so low on par with planar tlc or lower.
Maybe I should get something a little better like the G50. How Fanxiang looking like these days?

If you look at TBW objectively it will only be achieved in years of daily constant full drive writes & rewrites. Doubtful this is actual usage. However I have MLC SSD which supposed to last very long died on me right after warranty period (back then was just 3 years). So YMMV

Fanxiang? I would reco stick with reputable name brands. At least you have local warranty.

viewnet is selling

This post has been edited by jwgs0010: Sep 18 2025, 07:18 PM

Like all things China branded, make sure you know what your gonna get. There are pros, cons & risks. Thats all Im saying.

just sharing from my research, do ur own diligence

This post has been edited by jwgs0010: Sep 19 2025, 05:27 PM

I am using 990 EVO Plus as my boot drive, good, no complaints

I don't trust ADATA as much

While yes, DRAM is important, it's also not really noticable in day to day use

If you still haven't bought yet..

can consider wd sn8100 / sn850x



or a cheaper wd black sn850 1tb





or Wd pc sn810 1tb





This post has been edited by adamtayy: Sep 25 2025, 01:29 PM

Are we even looking at the same video?
Jay wasn't using any non-retail firmware, he showed that the versions in his testing was not engineering or prerelease versions for the ssd and motherboard. MSI quietly pulled their bios without giving a reason.
The reason is clear, a windows update caused the problem. Windows 10/11 updates are way more buggy compared to the past. Microsoft doesn't care and doesn't want to own up to the problem. And the hardware manufacturers are going along with it.

Any recommendation for cheapest 256GB external SSD (don't mind buying SSD and a casing also)? PNY maybe?

thats what i said. so what is it u think i said was wrong?

basically he was moaning he had the ssd + win update issue, when he never did. since it was a msi bios issue. My point here was, he was muddying the water and after all that headlines "worse than we thought", it wasn't even related to the so called windows update causing some ssd to fail.

hope that's clear enough?





proof? i'm not agreeing or disagreeing. im just genuine asking what proof u have to say this? i personally dont know.

I did have my own pc up and die (bsod and couldnt boot up) which only got solved by format and reinstall windows, but i cannot say 100% it was related to this. there are many reasons why it would not boot, like malware or whatever other reason. all i know was, after the reformat and reinstall windows, i no longer had boot issues.




this i agree. but at the end of the day i still have to use an os. i did try going linux desktop os, but there were somethings i still needed on windows. so unfortunately i could not kick windows to the curb just yet. but i did however debloat as much as i could to regain performance and reduce the privacy issues as much as possible. If u were still getting by win10, well they r no longer going to maintain it for security patches and bugs, so no choice but go win11 or go linux.



i agree. but we still need proof to backup our claims. otherwise it's just mere hearsay and fear mongering. My point in regard to jay, he was doing just that, fear mongering without proof for the windows 11 update + ssd.

So his conclusion in the end was, there is no smoke without a fire analogy.

For my ownself since i dont seem to be affected, i've already moved on.



My only issue right now is with this new motherboard i bought, a MSI X870 MAG tomahawk wifi. I experience weird issues with the 5gbe and the wifi 7 on the mothherboard. the 5gbe has I/o error, and the wifi7 driver has issues waking up from sleep and causes BSOD crashes 90% of the time if you sleep the pc. For this issue i might have fixed it by attempting to do a clean reinstall for the network and wifi drivers. I checked event viewer and no issues yet. Still testing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comment...lan_issues_fix/

But anyway i digress. have a good day

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Sep 26 2025, 05:59 AM

need rec for 4/8tb SSD, purpose is warm storage, not necessarily boot drive
warranty and TBW is priority

ive seen almost all pcie 4 tlc 4tb in the range of 1.3k-1.4k so is 990pro the go to? or is there something significantly cheaper?

couldnt find a single well priced 8tb ssd but if you guys know any it would be appreciated

Corsair MP600 Pro | WD Black SN850X | Crucial T500 https://www.techspot.com/bestof/storage-25/
"For those needing 8TB of storage, the WD Black SN850X currently provides much better value than the Corsair drive."

For now avoid Phison based SSD and get other controller types. WD850X is solid option to 990Pro

After 8 years in service, finally going to retire my SX8200 Pro 512GB from being the OS drive. Drive remaining health left 68% after 53.8TB written as stated by HWINFO


The replacement is KC3000 2TB. Using Macrium Reflect 8 I cloned and expand the drive and reboot to bios to change first boot to KC3000. PC restart and runs as normal without any drama. Hopefully this new SSD can last 10 years.

Before change drive, I benchmarked the SX8200 Pro

Looks like still running optimally as it can for PCIe Gen 3x4 SSD

With KC3000 the speed bumped up nicely as a PCIe Gen 4x4 SSD

Phison based drive...

Just dont install the 2 Phison SSD killer Windows updates: