these guys also very powderful

https://murai.my/2020/93496/siapakah-lau-li...enang-peraduan/

If I type Lau Li Kung here will google pick it up? 🤔

Famous now.

I have read all the replies above.

I still dont understand why would some people die die defending llk.
Okay, if you think he might have his own skill, then fine.
But die die defend is something different.
For me there could only be two reasons for this:
1. These people did not read all the information available in this thread;
2. These people are involved directly or indirectly in this scandal, probably but not necessarily involved in gaming/defrauding the contests.

Let me get this straight.
LLK won 9 cars in last 4 years.
His father won 1.
For me, the probability for this to happen without any cheating element is very very low.
It is a 5-sigma incident.

Then this guy, YetiMan. He keep saying there are professional contesters out there; you dont want to spend so lkk will get away with all the prizes; take this as a challenge to try a new product etc.
Personally, he sounds like someone from event management company.
Kek

Easy only. People don't like idiots who spout nonsense conspiracy theory like "fake contest" and "insider".
At the end there are many ways to game the system to increase your chance of winning significantly with very low outlay. It is a matter if you are willing to put in the effort or not. It's some sort of gambling too.

So many people already gave you how those people actually game the system. Only useless people cry when someone win and call them cheating instead of trying to find out the method they win.

He won 4 cars in 2020.

Are you saying he is master in gaming the system?

there's no actual calculation, including his family members, wife, daughter, son, father total up i guess it will be more than that.
Like he said, he used proxies because the games allowed. why not win all the lucky draw contest in Malaysia?

You orang baru la bodo duno use this loophole, like ktard only know keyboard...
lol

He is right, and you guys didnt join or study it's your fault according to his logic.

more like he won all contest that have Car as prize. His winrate is 99.9%

So sad.

Top spenders sound suspicious, because there is certain complexity when u want to resell the goods, or how you submit the receipt, and how to duplicate the transaction.
Possible, but harder than he can get grand prize to be honest.

People saying there's audit for this contest in Malaysia.
But seriously...u believe that?
Bagi rasuah sikit, everything will be okay lar.
First time living in Malaysia meh...

In Malaysia, cash is King.
who know he bribe the organizer but who knows, maybe im in fault to have such guessing and naive idea.

Even a government frontdesk staff can own Bentley, Vellfire, Audi etc at once, why this type of crooks can't even exists?

Malaysia...apa apa pun boleh la.

Done read every single page thoroughly since yesterday in total combined hour of 8 hours. im gonna get some sleep and dream of winning.

Correct mind set will take him/her self forward. Learning is a process

Yup, instead of trying to figure out or learning just cry "cheat" "cheat". These kind of people will never go far in life wan.
Other ppl get promoted before them, then say "kaki jilat", people win stuff say "cheater", some people get project instead of them say "bribe" la , "cable" la.
Even if really bribe or cable, go find out who and what or how. See if you can get a cable yourself or not. Learn the method and fight to win. Not just cry father cry mother.

I am not from event mgmt company neither am i LLK or an associate of LLK.

I just happen to know how these games work and why contest organizers choose to run them.

it is all about ringgit and sen.

Simple logic, if the tnc says whoever sends in the most milo box packagin top flap will win a car..... what would be ur first strategy?

you think, hey i drink milo every day. 1 day 2 packs. 30 days 60 already. Wow! I CAN WIN la!

Then the next smarter guy says, i also consume 60 per month. But i am sure there will be other families who drink more per month. So i think 60 wont win me a car la. But i still want to win wo. So how leh? Okla, i buy 120 packs and cut out the flaps and store the milo in containers n keep in fridge. Also workable, right?

Then another smarter guy also think, maybe 120 wont win me the car. I need to do more. Why not i rope in friends to join me and we split the prize? Also can

Then dont forget got people sell Milo drinks in cafeterias wo. They too can join as they also sell the drinks daily. Now this group will easily beat the other normal consumers. Then people like Submerged will cry why sent in 120 flaps also cant win. Organizer cheat la. If LLK wins again thenLLK and org cheat la.

And if LLK steps in to play, he needs to beat this group of canteen owners too. So how leh? Die die also want to win a car. So what u think his strategy would be?

Buy in bulk, cut out flaps, store some, give away and just pour away the rest. Might be possible too.

Dont think like a wood that why would anyone spend thousands of ringgit and get products which they cant resell or resell at a loss. They dont care about all this. Focus on the prize. There will be wastages. companies that run such contests are basically roping in u guys to become resellers for them. Nowadays Milo dont ask for flaps. because wastages happen. So now they ask for receipts like rm5 per entry. So it means u can buy in bulk, stock up in ur house. slowly u resell to ur friends at a lower price. U get ur receipt and a chance to win. This is call thinking outside the box.

So when i come in to share something which is against ur wooden head thinking u say i m LLK dupe. I am teaching u. I am opening up ur minds to think and accept what is happening out there. U either join them and fight them in their game, ganging up and raise enough funds (which u can risk and dont lose and come here cry like a baby)

Or you can just boycott such contests and move to the next.

And got another idiot out there who says "i" hacked into contest cos he thinks i m llk. Go learn english. I m saying there are online contests out there which are hackable and those u should be wary of. Programmers can do it and you play the game only to lose. That one u also can cry scandal. And btw, Umobile contest tallies ur ponts to the amount u spent. So i dont think anyone would be foolish enough to hack the scores without paying the same amount of money.

Now i know why Submerged is so sore, Cos he spent rm5000 and won nothing that is of value. So now u know you are no the only one who plays. So i ask u, why did u spend rm5000? You wanted to win the car? And you think only u deserve to win the car with 5k and no one else? And u lsot the game and u came to cry?

I hv been in your shoes before. I hv played in such money game before and i hv lost before. I dont cry like u. I knew what i was doing. Me and my friends we calculated our cost and risk. There was no leaderboard. Just mail in wrapper. We sent 3 sacks of wrappers by hands. We lost. So what? Others sent in more. Did we consume the product? No. we resold them at a loss. Overall we won a TV. We spent rm14000. resold products rm8k+. Sold the tV. Each of us lost Rm1500. That wasnt the only money game we played. So now here u hv a leaderboard to rack ur progress and yet u say not fair. Then go take it up with UMobile if u suspected foul play.

We eat popcorn.

Not associated to LLK but need to create dupe account to defend him. So suspicious

belip and you can

And now accuse im TS

Some may think YetiMan is the organizer or LLK or whatever.

Whatever it is, what he explained is correct. Though quite long but really it's quite common sense. The answers to how LLK won so many are in the Terms & Conditions of the various contests.

Many still can't accept despite many already commenting that he literally spends A LOT to get many entries or be the highest spender. What's wrong with buying a lot of products?? It's up to him to resell or throw it away or donate to food kitchen or anything else.

There may be minority cases where the online system is not secure enough and it managed to be hacked. But I don't think ALL of LLK contests are hacked. Many are even offline contests.

This post has been edited by fisherman10: Dec 4 2020, 10:43 PM