Neither, it should be 2.29888 still

my friend repeat paper almost of every semester but how could be his final CGPA now is higher than mine?

all have been explained in the first post.

the CGPA system is to reward people to not worry about failing. education is lifelong. if first u dont succeed, try harder. just bcoz somebody learns something a little slower than others, doesnt mean they cant earn a degree at the end .

that is not fair for IPTS to allow students to resit as many time as they can..

after all, if we talk about the quality of the graduates , IPTA should always be the best one!!=)

and why is not fair? are u saying slow people do not deserve the education? or do u categorize slow as being stupid?

no, i dun mean like that..i am just saying that compare to IPTa, IPTS should never let their students resit as many failed papers as they can, this will degrade the quality of that insititutions.

My comments are that make sure they r well prepared before taking the tests. there shud never be a lame excuse or reason for failing the papers if u din work hard.

i wish to hear more from you regarding the systems of IPTA and IPTS..how diff the students there and how about the lecturers there?
do u think students at IPTA would be more disciplined than that of IPTS?

Hi, mr azarimy , nice to hear from you then=)

id rather get a 2nd class lower than retaking to get a 2nd class upper.
some1 with a 2nd class lower + 1 sem of working experience > some1 with a 2nd class upper with 0 working experience.
retake costs money
start working earlier earns money
taking up a post graduate diploma or masters in the "retake" time frame would be a better choice.
and in the end of the day, the results of your PhD will cover the results of your masters.
the results of your masters will cover the results of your degree
the same way the results of you spm covers the results of your upsr.

its all superficial and only important if ur a perfectionist who wants to have a clean record

This post has been edited by EmperorMeng: Jun 12 2009, 10:38 PM

my uni only allows 1 retake.
failing twice in any subject will cause one to be barred from engineering entirely.

i'm not sure if IPTS would allow unlimited retakes. i know IPTA could only retake twice maximum (meaning taking the same subject 3 times in total), but i'm not sure about IPTS.

yes, people should work hard to score. but being in a university is not just about studying. i failed a 5 credit subject in 1999 bcoz i wanted to concentrate on organizing the 14th architectural workshop, a national event for architectural students where i was the programme director. that position in my resume outweighs most of other things that i've ever achieved. so retaking a 5 credit subject is a worthy sacrifice.

there are other causes which caused us to fail. death in the family, health problems, money issues, life... u just never know. not everybody have a perfect life through university. since everybody is different, it's only fair to have a fail-safe system to accommodate such situations.

on the 2nd part, i dont think IPTA students are more disciplined than IPTS. i believe it's bcoz of the system, we see more "disciplined" students in IPTA. IPTS does not normally enforce such moral order on the students. whether it's good or not is open to interpretations.

well, if u get a 2nd class lower, u wont be able to do ur masters. masters require a 3.00cgpa minimum or 2nd class upper. if u plan to get ur masters to "cover" ur results, then yes, u would need to mark up ur CGPA. the same as ur degree would cover ur SPM/STPM. that's IF ur SPM/STPM is good enough to get u into a degree course, right? if it didnt, what would u give to retake ur SPM/STPM?

it's not for perfectionists. in fact, we dont allow students to simply retake subjects that they didnt fail. they MUST fail the subjects first, and to my experience, hardly anyone would intentionally fail a subject so that they could retake them again without apparent reason.

Nope not all uni and not all subject if u fail they will paste the result.for certain uni,once ur failed its already registered at ur CGPA.

which means.if u take same subject twice ur credit pint twiece alse

Oh.my CGPA
really scarry ough.

which is odd, bcoz if passing a degree requires 70 credits, then u could repeat a 2 credit subjects 35 times and u will qualify for ur degree. even if they limit the retakes to 2 or 3 times, means u could still save urself the hassle of studying all the subjects by repeating several subjects twice.

it would also mean that there is no need to study hard anymore if u've failed 1 subject, bcoz u're gonna be haunted with that failure in the CGPA and will carry on until u graduate. learning is about taking time mastering a particular subject. not kill urself and be haunted with it forever.

Does this apply to local Uni or most Uni's?

most unis in the world. although US have a slightly different system.

but do note that sometimes universities cut a little slack for their own graduates .

As far as I know Australian universities do allow retakes but your failures will greatly affect your overall CGPA.

Each failed subject will add on to your existing number of subjects with a very low score of 1.0.

Meaning if you failed 1 subject and your course has 20 modules, your CGPA will be calculated as 21 subjects with a very low 1.0 point added as a penalty and divided by 21 subjects.

there are list of compulsary+elective and minimum cgpa of 2.0.if u repeat 35 times and last paper oni u pass (A) which will make ur cgpa 8/70=0.11.And could repeat many times but more u repeat more it reduce ur cgpa.

Yes.it will carry on till graduate.that what some uni implement in malaysia.i try ask the registrar but what they said is u have to make sure u not fail and score good grades first time u take.but dun worry,in my uni even 2.75 can secured job at schlumberger.

waaa bro... which uni are u from? i think i went to the wrong uni... just grad dunno how to enter OnG industry. pointer <3.

if i fail one subject that(4 credit) , i get C after repeating will it increase the cgpa ?

This post has been edited by csjohson: Sep 13 2009, 12:56 AM

assuming u comply to the scenario stated in the 1st post, yes.

so can i know how much will increase if i get C?0.2 ?or must count depend on previous cgpa?