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 CGPA - how to calculate, and why u should dare to fail!

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Valkrie
post Feb 17 2009, 02:44 PM

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got formula for ths CGPA?
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QUOTE(Valkrie @ Feb 17 2009, 06:44 AM)
got formula for ths CGPA?
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oh for god's sake go and read the first post!
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post Feb 17 2009, 09:44 PM

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Haih.. Too bad, i m taking aus degree prog.. dammit.. fail 2 sub and retake back liao... sien..


Added on March 6, 2009, 10:25 amQuestion here... what is the difference between credit hour taken and credit hour completed when i calculate my CGPA???

my total grade value = 59.75
credit hour taken = 27
credit hour completed = 24

My Result
My total cgpa is 2.21 wor... rclxub.gif

then if total grade value for ITC and LAW = 15, then my cgpa got any changes???

seriously need help... sad.gif

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Aww this is what I looking. Wondering my diploma cgpa can reach 2.20 or not. I have many resit subjects so its mean I only calculate for the pass paper only? those failed just ignore?

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QUOTE(tcken @ May 31 2009, 09:21 PM)
Aww this is what I looking. Wondering my diploma cgpa can reach 2.20 or not. I have many resit subjects so its mean I only calculate for the pass paper only? those failed just ignore?
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which university/college are u in now? for IPTAs, u can follow this guide, but if u're in a private college, there are different ways of calculating CGPAs.

if u're referring to the system i've explained in this thread, then yes, u only calculate the grades based on the subjects u've retaken/resit and ignore the first ones that u failed. but if u havent retaken the subject, the failure will be counted. biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 1 2009, 05:30 AM)
which university/college are u in now? for IPTAs, u can follow this guide, but if u're in a private college, there are different ways of calculating CGPAs.

if u're referring to the system i've explained in this thread, then yes, u only calculate the grades based on the subjects u've retaken/resit and ignore the first ones that u failed. but if u havent retaken the subject, the failure will be counted. biggrin.gif.
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I'm just graduated from tarc this year. I was a repeated student so i took 3 years to finish my diploma. Kinda shame - - Now I'm applying for uni south aus for continue my studies degree. Unisa required at least 2.20 cgpa, and my college need 1 month to get done the transcript for me, so i want to count it myself 1st ;<

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 22 2008, 10:02 AM)
sorry for the late reply.

no, attendance or commitment in class does not directly affect ur CGPA. what usually happens is that the lecturer puts 5% attendance marks in ur semester grades. this 5% mark normally is not enough to significantly affect ur overall grade, but a 0 is a definite 1 grade down. meaning if u're supposed to score A-, a 0% attendance is immediately a B+. the GPA difference between an A- and B+ is usually 3.70 and 3.30.

so that's how attendance could affect ur CGPA. but do remember that not all lecturers or subjects have a 5% attendance marks. it is up to the school's discretion to add that. if u're lucky, u might end up in a class that does not emphasis on attendance, so u can ponteng all u want wink.gif
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Attendance carry a weight on its own too in Univ. I had a fair share of experience in a local Univ. Yu have to maintain a healthy a.k.a 80% of attendance if yu really want to sit for the final examinations.

There's a few friends of mine, they were barred from taking the final examinations because of attendance issues. They were required to write letters to state their justification(s) on why their attendance were low. MUAHAHAHA~~~~poor souls.

Regards, Joey~~~

p.s: There's a 5% marks for attendance too back in my Univ days. But this varies from one lecturer to another. Sometimes your "attendance in class", "participation/involvement", etc in class, plays a pivotal fulcrum in getting an "A" or a "A-". So there's an effect on attendance as well as your CGPA, so to speak.

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QUOTE(tcken @ Jun 1 2009, 06:40 AM)
I'm just graduated from tarc this year. I was a repeated student so i took 3 years to finish my diploma. Kinda shame - - Now I'm applying for uni south aus for continue my studies degree. Unisa required at least 2.20 cgpa, and my college need 1 month to get done the transcript for me, so i want to count it myself 1st ;<
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tarcian here

when you fail the cgpa they count in the transcript does include your failure subject, counting it as 0. They will however update it to whatever grade you obtained in your resit paper.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 1 2009, 01:30 PM)
tarcian here

when you fail the cgpa they count in the transcript does include your failure subject, counting it as 0. They will however update it to whatever grade you obtained in your resit paper.
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so it mean failed subjects doesn't mean anything to cgpa as long as resit paper grade will replace it? And just the transcript result look bad since there are many C- and F. Isn't it?

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QUOTE(tcken @ Jun 1 2009, 05:02 PM)
so it mean failed subjects doesn't mean anything to cgpa as long as resit paper grade will replace it? And just the transcript result look bad since there are many C- and F. Isn't it?
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yes it will stand as it is until you pass, sry i made a mistake if C- or D u still get points but its low. Your resit result which pass will replace it later on.

yup, it will look bad when you get the full transcript. but who ask you to show it when you can just show your diploma cert? biggrin.gif
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even if they could see the full transcript, u could just explain to them that at that time u dont like that particular lecturer or vice versa, or u got into an accident during exam day or whatever. the point is, u retook the subject and passed. that's all that matters.
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I see. Thanks guys for helping. Anyway, do you think 2.20 is easy to reach ? Sigh..
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QUOTE(tcken @ Jun 1 2009, 05:58 PM)
I see. Thanks guys for helping. Anyway, do you think 2.20 is easy to reach ? Sigh..
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yes, hv faith in yourself and work hard.

i was retained as well for a year because i have failed subjects in diploma(i was always failing and in the end my cgpa is 2.4), i made it through and i've never fail again in advanced diploma. my cgpa for adv dip is above 3.00

good luck to u

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Just to be clear..uiam did not apply this type of cgpa calculation..so never dare to fail in uia..all uia's student can't replace the credit of fail subject..it still in your transcript eventhough you repeat billion of times..but beware that..if u just fail 3 times after repeat the same subject..huhu....say goodbye to uia..u have to be kick out..that's why study in uia is quite tough n their student are really scared of repeat..if u want to have a short period of study,never stdy in uia...hahaha u will lost about 1 year of your life here..haha i lost it already.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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if i get 2.29888
it should be 2.29 or 2.3 ?
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QUOTE(lpfan182 @ Jun 10 2009, 12:51 PM)
Just to be clear..uiam did not apply this type of cgpa calculation..so never dare to fail in uia..all uia's student can't replace the credit of fail subject..it still in your transcript eventhough you repeat billion of times..but beware that..if u just fail 3 times after repeat the same subject..huhu....say goodbye to uia..u have to be  kick out..that's why study in uia is quite tough n their student are really scared of repeat..if u want to have a short period of study,never stdy in uia...hahaha u will lost about 1 year of your life here..haha i lost it already..  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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i never said it will replace entry of the failed subject in the transcripts. no IPTA would do that.

retaking a subject will replace the failed credit points, which means ur cgpa will be recalculated. if the failed credit points is not recalculated, then it will create a loophole where a student can take a 2 credit subject 35 times to fulfill the 70credits requirement for a degree. since UIA is still an IPTA, i'm pretty sure they use the exact same method i've mentioned in this topic.

but like i've mentioned before, it will not replace the entry in the transcripts. if u failed a subject and passed it the second time, u will have two entries: the first entry is the one u failed, the second is the one u passed. look at the cgpa, and u'll realize that it has been recalculated.
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but... like in local uni... not every subjects are being offered every semester... failing one subject may cause you to extend one semester to grad just to take that particular subject...
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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Jun 10 2009, 05:43 PM)
but... like in local uni... not every subjects are being offered every semester... failing one subject may cause you to extend one semester to grad just to take that particular subject...
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not many knows this, but actually there are 3 semesters in a year - two normal semesters (about 16 weeks each) beginning july and another in december. there's a shorter semester called 'semester pendek', about 10 weeks, and begins in may. u can request the university to sit for that subject during that time, so that if u pass, u could graduate with ur friends. some universities might not allow this on the grounds that the lecturers would be engaged in research or paper writing, especially when they're short staffed. but normally they do allow it.

with that option now open, now think. do u really want to graduate with a minimum pass for certain crucial subjects? or what if u just need another 0.01 points to get a 1st class or 2nd class upper? wouldnt u wish u could retake certain subjects?

the option is open to u. an extra semester spent on another class might make the difference between getting the job of ur dreams or just lay back and whine about ur shortcomings.
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I heard my frens say that IPTS allow students to resit as many failed papers as they can...until the students grow old, and despite taking several years to complete their diploma...they still make it till the end..huh? true?

I supose IPTA won't give us that kind of priviledge cos we rarely see many ppl spend 6-7 years completing their bachelor degree. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 12 2009, 09:13 AM)
I heard my frens say that IPTS allow students to resit as many failed papers as they can...until the students grow old, and despite taking several years to complete their diploma...they still make it till the end..huh? true?

I supose IPTA won't give us that kind of priviledge cos we rarely see many ppl spend 6-7 years completing their bachelor degree. rclxub.gif
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Resit=more $$$ for the institution.

Well from the discussion here it seems that if you failed you still have a chance to redeem yourself by repeating in order to improve your CGPA. Is this the case in Malaysia only?
Cause for my uni(australia) or probably for my faculty only(engineering) if you failed a course you have to repeat again and the maximum you will get by repeating will be cap to 50 marks(PASS grade) out of 100. Any comments?

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