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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - Present] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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2020's Summer Ins and Outs

https://www.premierleague.com/transfers/summer/2020

In
Odion Ighalo (Shanghai Shenhua) Loan
Donny van de Beek (Ajax)
Edison Cavani - Free Agent

Out
Cameron Borthwick-Jackson (Released)
Dion McGee (Released)
Angel Gomes (Released)
Ethan Hamilton (Released)
Michael O'Hara (Released)
Largie Ramazani (Released)
George Tanner (Released)
Alexis Sanchez (Inter Milan)
Tahith Chong (Werder Bremen) Loan
Aliou Traore (Caen) Loan
Joel Pereira (Huddersfield) Loan

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Poch is getting more and more airtime this few days... is this a sign for our club?
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Jota hatrick in ucl. He really blossom at liverpool 😅 he was good at Wolverhampton but increase a few level up once playing around world class players and coach.....
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QUOTE(damnself @ Nov 4 2020, 06:48 AM)
Jota hatrick in ucl. He really blossom at liverpool 😅 he was good at Wolverhampton but increase a few level up once playing around world class players and coach.....
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meanwhile most of our "world class" players we bought all regressed whether it's under moyes, lvg, jm or ole haha. bruno is exception.
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if jota come here maybe he also kena benched... like vdb
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if jota come here maybe he also kena benched... like vdb
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Yea because he's not a 100 mil player and coaching is a myth. Teams that beat us or have won the PL have 100 mil players in every position with no coaching required.

But on a serious note, it's against Atalanta. Let's see if he can keep it up.
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QUOTE(maserati @ Nov 4 2020, 11:28 AM)
Yea because he's not a 100 mil player and coaching is a myth. Teams that beat us or have won the PL have 100 mil players in every position with no coaching required.

But on a serious note, it's against Atalanta. Let's see if he can keep it up.
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atlanta were in the semis last season, rite?
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 4 2020, 10:31 AM)
meanwhile most of our "world class" players we bought all regressed whether it's under moyes, lvg, jm or ole haha. bruno is exception.
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Bruno's magic also slowly diminishing..unlike his first few matches
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 4 2020, 11:51 AM)
Bruno's magic also slowly diminishing..unlike his first few matches
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Fed up maybe...Mentality will affect performance after all..
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Nov 4 2020, 11:43 AM)
atlanta were in the semis last season, rite?
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Lost 2-1 to psg at quarter
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United seems like a good Cup team rather a mediocre League team at the moment... sighs...
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QUOTE(arvind13 @ Nov 4 2020, 02:01 PM)
United seems like a good Cup team rather a mediocre League team at the moment...  sighs...
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I actually don’t mind if ole can give ucl cup mcm di matteo with chelsea. Epl no brp belakang kira 😂😂
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Nov 4 2020, 01:40 AM)
#OleOut


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If only they put in more details regarding how much spending to get those results. Hahaha.
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 4 2020, 11:51 AM)
Bruno's magic also slowly diminishing..unlike his first few matches
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because he have to collect the ball himself from the deep and got people man-marked him.
if u noticed, Ole "the all time clueless and stupid manager" just let his player to play for fun, keep on relying to individuals movement , so the likes of rashfor-greenwood-dan james- just dribble the ball as they like ..bruno always got frustrated ..sometimes he make the runs to empty space but people just dribbble like stupid and lose the ball ..



QUOTE(arvind13 @ Nov 4 2020, 02:01 PM)
United seems like a good Cup team rather a mediocre League team at the moment...  sighs...
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its too early ..
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Nov 4 2020, 04:09 PM)
its too early ..
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Hmmm...only time will tell... But i don't think Ole is very tactically acute though... confused.gif

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Some idiots say Bruno started dropping either they watch football or mini ice hockey. The reason was the set up from the team which Ole planned it wrongly

When Matic is in DM and Fred is CM. Bruno more confidence to go forward without trying to find the ball. On Arsenal match the Kayu Mc Tom not even try to deliver the ball to Bruno on 1st half so he needs to find the ball for himself

I'm not sure those comments really from United fans or just fake fans from rivalry clubs

The main concern is not from Bruno but the Yoyo tactics from Ole that made the team unstable.

Even if United won 10-0 against Turkish Club it doesn't show Ole is a good manager when the inconsistency of selection to pleased all the players that made him look clueless
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Can't wait to hear what new praise for ole tonight by rio, gary and scholesy.
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Nov 5 2020, 01:11 AM)
vdb, bruno and mata starting. going to be good today.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 5 2020, 12:12 AM)
Can't wait to hear what new praise for ole tonight by rio, gary and scholesy.
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vdb+bruno+mata in diamond
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if win : ole genius
if lose : players bluff

whatever the result is,.. #OleOut
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jogba on bench. means he is starting vs everton? zzzzz.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Nov 5 2020, 01:15 AM)
vdb, bruno and mata starting. going to be good today.
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Finally, Bruno and VDB... Mata is a bonus.

And after a long time, we are playing in front of real live audiences... lol
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 5 2020, 01:59 AM)
Finally, Bruno and VDB... Mata is a bonus.

And after a long time, we are playing in front of real live audiences... lol
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Fans coming? Confirmed?
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Donny van de Beek just show those bluffers on how to play no.8. .. simple, quick, control, so awesome to watch

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Hahahahhahahahahaha.....why am I NOT surprise dry.gif
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wow... matic last man... lolx..

it was shaw all this while.. or lindelof.

we should still win....

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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Nov 5 2020, 02:09 AM)
Fans coming? Confirmed?
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Yeah... you didn't see the audience in the stand?

LOL. Ba did a Rashford on us.
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Yeah... you didn't see the audience in the stand?

LOL. Ba did a Rashford on us.
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lol i thought 4 am. lucky u reply lol
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The counter attacking team kena counter todei..kek
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We have 3 good ball supplier in the middle yet keep on trying to attack via the left flank. What la...

I think Cavani should be in there with the midfield that we have...
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 5 2020, 02:21 AM)
We have 3 good ball supplier in the middle yet keep on trying to attack via the left flank. What la...

I think Cavani should be in there with the midfield that we have...
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we have created nothing yet. sweat.gif

tuanzebe still 1 v 1 with Ba.. could end with 10 man on the pitch later.. lolx

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QUOTE(areankim @ Nov 5 2020, 02:26 AM)
we have created nothing yet.  sweat.gif

tuanzebe still 1 v 1 with Ba.. could end with 10 man on the pitch later.. lolx
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I'm a bit pissed now... alignment betul lari la Ole's wheel nie... always to the left...
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why havent we grab pochettino yet?
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Yes ... 2-0
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 5 2020, 02:37 AM)
Yes ... 2-0
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wa... siao liao... so clumsy goal.

try to pass like PRO and steady cool, end up losing ball left right centre...

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VDB, Bruno and Mata combined to help them score a goal biggrin.gif
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Relak la..can win wan..as they said..got vbd and bruno..conlanfirm can win
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 5 2020, 02:41 AM)
Relak la..can win wan..as they said..got vbd and bruno..conlanfirm can win
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I got a feeling that VDB will be replaced by Jogba at the start of 2nd half...
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maguire is so shit .. both matic and mata is soooOo slow ..

2nd goal was on bruno for sure but come on maguire is so shit just strip that armband off! communication fail big time at the back awful!
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omg mctomm coming in for axel .. he will cover shit maguire .. #OleOut
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matic play defend lel
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tuanzabe was very very shaky tonight. with a yellow.. rightly sub
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bruno is just so poor today sub him off .. that free kick, come on! bloody hell why he shot at the keeper? go for top corner la bruno .. suddenly he become shit under ole now ..and rashford dribble around like shit ..crazy !

#oleout!!
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jogba to save the day!! yay!
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WHY THE FUCK OLE SUB VAN DE BEEK !!!! WHAT THE FUCK OLE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Fuhh... my gut feeling was wrong about Jogba replacing VDB, but he still kena sub with Cavani... poor guy.

Edit: My bad. Double sub. And Jogba did replace VDB... as expected by Ole...

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jogba to save the day!! yay!
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WHY THE FUCK OLE SUB VAN DE BEEK !!!! WHAT THE FUCK OLE  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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im more suprised he subbed players so early biggrin.gif
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OLE GUNNAR SOLSKJAER YOU BASTARD HAHHAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHA

VAN DE BEEK IS THE BEST PLAYER AND HE SUB HIM OFF !! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA doh.gif doh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA

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pogba pass... wa.... jialat...
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What kind of gameplay and strategy is this..so predictable
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cant believe matic still on the field leh....

all looking for cheap fouls... not playing football. bunch of disconnect team mate.

Lost count all the missed passes.

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Change players but not strategy... so great...
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Kek..greenwood also duno how to dribble dy
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no shot on target in 2nd half? did we created anything?
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no shot on target in 2nd half? did we created anything?
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Nothing yet... Can see the face of frustration on Bruno..
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Bruno and vbd sure regret gao gao coming to this team..shud hav gone to liverpool..at least can win some titles
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What a clearance...
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that ball from mcsauce tell alot, what the midfield has been doing whole match.
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that ball from mcsauce tell alot, what the midfield has been doing whole match.
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Legendary Ole. Keep subbing out good performance player.

Really salute the guy.
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OLE SHIT
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midfield really shit. cant pass properly.
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why matic started(and play 90)? + mata sommore... ahdui hai...
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One step closer to be sacked for Ole?
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the fact that wan bissaka cant cross is a liability to the team when attacking. so useless.
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Should have sleep instead of watching this.. Ole put too much hope for individual brilliance instead of a decent gameplan..

All of them play like strangers.. cant put together string of passes up the field.. all become sideways and backpass masters
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4VD942W9v8

Tuanzebe sprinting back... MAtic feel asleep... Captain slow react. lolx

Diff manager, same set of player, not even sure if it makes any diff.

All the subs did nothing.

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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Nov 5 2020, 03:48 AM)
Legendary Ole. Keep subbing out good performance player.

Really salute the guy.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Nov 5 2020, 03:55 AM)
Should have sleep instead of watching this.. Ole put too much hope for individual brilliance instead of a decent gameplan..

All of them play like strangers.. cant put together string of passes up the field.. all become sideways and backpass masters
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His game play has always been individual brilliance ...
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In order to accommodate 80m defender, United always play 2 cdm and seem less concede but no exciting forward. Our CB gets the credit and honour with captaincy not the CDM

But today with 1 cdm it easy for Istanbul to penetrate the defenders.

Ole is so stubborn with his favourism with Maguire and Mc tom when he brings out Van Der Beek and Tuanzebe not the underperform ie Maguire

I can't see Ole will stay longer. Poch or any managers knocking United's door

I'm not Ole out from beginning but these mistakes some are from Ole. Yes even all in all it started from the Board


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Now I know why.

Big team purposely lose to us just to make sure Ole stay.

But with small club, we show our true colours 😂😂😂
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Now I know why.

Big team purposely lose to us just to make sure Ole stay.

But with small club, we show our true colours 😂😂😂
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we 5-0 against everton this saturday then
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Nov 5 2020, 07:47 AM)
we 5-0 against everton this saturday then
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wow, 2 stupid goals to concede.
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The one chasing the ball was Matic doh.gif

Where the hell is Tuanzebe and Maguire rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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Maybe they trying to play offside but forgot they still in their half laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 5 2020, 09:44 AM)
The one chasing the ball was Matic doh.gif

Where the hell is Tuanzebe and Maguire rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Maguire. Captain. Doing things like this. I really facepalm.

Change the captain to Bruno please. Permanently.

And ole need to step down before tarnishing his legend status.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 5 2020, 09:44 AM)
The one chasing the ball was Matic doh.gif

Where the hell is Tuanzebe and Maguire rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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i always says that maguire wants to do his showboat ball playing skills in front liao. then when ppl counter, he left his partner under the spot light cause fail defend. but maguire being english and shit wont be under spotlight for the goal. haha biggrin.gif guess for 80m we gonna keep him till retire.

ps not even jones do this
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Creating history every single game. Watched the first goal then turn off the TV. Even my weekend uncle team don't do silly amateur mistakes like this. Opponents show the counter team on how to play on the break.

Don't see that it's possible to sink any lower than this.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 5 2020, 09:44 AM)
The one chasing the ball was Matic doh.gif

Where the hell is Tuanzebe and Maguire rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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You go count the white shirt....almost everyone is in the penalty box doh.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 5 2020, 10:35 AM)
i always says that maguire wants to do his showboat ball playing skills in front liao. then when ppl counter, he left his partner under the spot light cause fail defend. but maguire being english and shit wont be under spotlight for the goal. haha biggrin.gif guess for 80m we gonna keep him till retire.

ps not even jones do this
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Communication is the key, Maguire like to go up also Matic and Tuanzebe has to stay back and defend also. Heck even corner kick i often see Shaw and AWB fall back to defend against any counter attack.
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Kek
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Attack = 100%!
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 5 2020, 10:57 AM)
Communication is the key, Maguire like to go up also Matic and Tuanzebe has to stay back and defend also. Heck even corner kick i often see Shaw and AWB fall back to defend against any counter attack.
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standard rule is always one player back on the line to prevent counter attacks. Even weekend league players know this. At least ole is learning something new on the job.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Nov 5 2020, 07:47 AM)
we 5-0 against everton this saturday then
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i think United gonna win against Everton.. they are more daring and adventurous now, maybe they will come out and attack... then maybe Ole's plan to absorb pressure and counter will succeed hmm.gif
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Some curious points from the loss.

Why the heck does Maguire, the Captain, leave the sole big striker Demba Ba to his young partner and leave himself as the free man?
Take some responsibility. He's done this from time to time. Vidic would've been all over Ba. Tuanzebe got himself done with a yellow and that was it.

Ole. Oh ho ho. Why does our manager substitute our best player on the night with 30 minutes to go?
Do you not want to win? Or does Ole really hate VDB? Did VDB break into Ole's home or something? At this rate, Ole is gonna sack himself with these tactics.


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Vidic on his worst day is still faster than Harry. Its not an offside trap if your line is above the half way line....
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Kek
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ini memang kek. i trying to find where are the defenders. it's like extremely far off from demba ba.

this performance is far worse than arsenal ones. no chance created at all apart from a rare martial goal.

matic so slow. def looks so weak without mctom/fred as backup cover.

bruno has not been his usual self for many matches d. most pass also astray. cavani barely touch the ball. jogba comes in also no contribution. waste of space aje. might as well let vdb continue on. in my opinion bruno/jogba should compete same spot. no competition, guarantee start makes bruno also lose form. jogba lagi speechless. he know he will play regardless of form. whether as start or at 60th mins.

ole very obvious looks clueless in this match
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 5 2020, 02:18 PM)
ini memang kek. i trying to find where are the defenders. it's like extremely far off from demba ba.

this performance is far worse than arsenal ones. no chance created at all apart from a rare martial goal.

matic so slow. def looks so weak without mctom/fred as backup cover.

bruno has not been his usual self for many matches d. most pass also astray. cavani barely touch the ball. jogba comes in also no contribution. waste of space aje. might as well let vdb continue on. in my opinion bruno/jogba should compete same spot. no competition, guarantee start makes bruno also lose form. jogba lagi speechless. he know he will play regardless of form. whether as start or at 60th mins.

ole very obvious looks clueless in this match
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captain marvel maguire in their box trying to look like beckenbaur...

ole has been clueless so many games already. this is his 101 or 102 games in charge... hopefully lotti can send ole out yawn.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 5 2020, 01:12 PM)
Some curious points from the loss.

Why the heck does Maguire, the Captain, leave the sole big striker Demba Ba to his young partner and leave himself as the free man?
Take some responsibility. He's done this from time to time. Vidic would've been all over Ba. Tuanzebe got himself done with a yellow and that was it.

Ole. Oh ho ho. Why does our manager substitute our best player on the night with 30 minutes to go?
Do you not want to win? Or does Ole really hate VDB? Did VDB break into Ole's home or something? At this rate, Ole is gonna sack himself with these tactics.
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First off, yes I have some sympahy for Ole in the tactics he is using.

Yes, this is all a direct consequence of Woodward completely failing to capture any of the summer transfer targets.
Even VDB was not an Ole target, which is probably why he is being used so sparingly. Woodward has been shit. This is known, now let's get on.

Without the right reinforcements, Ole has realized his preferred setup is left heavy without a RW and AWB cannot cross the ball. That makes it easy to defend against as opponents tend to flood their right defence. And he feels he is best served by the midfield diamond to negate overloading the LW and overcoming the RW problem. So far so good.

What I then struggle to understand is that if you are going to commit players into a midfield diamond, why are you not using the player most comfortable in a diamond? In world football, if you are talking about a diamond formation, you cannot get away from Ajax and the Dutch. Cryuff literally played his entire career in a diamond. VDB is so effective in a midfield diamond and yet he can barely start a game. And even when VDB does and becomes MotM, he still gets subbed after 60 minutes. It is almost like the point of having a midfield diamond isn't to get the best out of the team but to ensure Ole's favourite midfield players get to play. Our main problem remains in midfield, even though we are packed with midfielders. And the defence is now making it worse.

I can't fault Cavani or Martial even though they tend to become invisible in matches. It's because our strikers are feeding off scraps. Cavani probably gets 5 chances at PSG, at United he barely gets one clear cut chance.
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Lol...The situation now reminds me of jomo's final days when the whole environment feels so toxic and demotivated...Now probably not as toxic..but extremely demotivated..

Soon a new manager will come..suddenly form improves again and 2 seaons later back to the same stage...lol

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 5 2020, 01:12 PM)
Some curious points from the loss.

Why the heck does Maguire, the Captain, leave the sole big striker Demba Ba to his young partner and leave himself as the free man?
Take some responsibility. He's done this from time to time. Vidic would've been all over Ba. Tuanzebe got himself done with a yellow and that was it.

Ole. Oh ho ho. Why does our manager substitute our best player on the night with 30 minutes to go?
Do you not want to win? Or does Ole really hate VDB? Did VDB break into Ole's home or something? At this rate, Ole is gonna sack himself with these tactics.
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I beg to differ on vidic. Anyone can outrun vidic. The question is who dares to? 😂
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Funny how gnev is so silent after last night's match and as usual no united legend is criticising oles tactics.

If it was mou or any other manager, would be slaughtered.
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I beg to differ on vidic. Anyone can outrun vidic. The question is who dares to? 😂
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I beg to differ on vidic. Anyone can outrun vidic. The question is who dares to? 😂
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Vidic doesn't defend by pace.
Vidic defends by being all over and manhandling the striker. Which is what Maguire should be doing.

If you get the ball and Vidic is nearby, expect pain. biggrin.gif
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got many matches i don't think ole is clueless despite everyone saying he is clueless.

but yesterday match he really is clueless! haha
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what shaw is doing at that side of the pitch lol

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Bersangka baik.

Maybe it is Ole playing Total Football or a variation of it. DF can become ST, ST can become MF and MF become RB.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 5 2020, 04:15 PM)
Funny how gnev is so silent after last night's match and as usual no united legend is criticising oles tactics.

If it was mou or any other manager, would be slaughtered.
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Gnev would hog around board nt supporting his mate. But never question what his mate can do with tools he have in store. Not the first time maguire and co defend like that. Definitely not a premier league team
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poch rumors in
but it will be teh same with any other managers as long as woodward is there and no DOF
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Bersangka baik.

Maybe it is Ole playing Total Football or a variation of it. DF can become ST, ST can become MF and MF become RB.
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poch rumors in
but it will be teh same with any other managers as long as woodward is there and no DOF
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I think woody will pull the trigger the soon. The everton game could be the final nail on the coffin for ole. Even as bad that people claimed ed to be, i think he will put the club first and foremost.
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Lol...The situation now reminds me of jomo's final days when the whole environment feels so toxic and demotivated...Now probably not as toxic..but extremely demotivated..

Soon a new manager will come..suddenly form improves again and 2 seaons later back to the same stage...lol

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Hope the new manager has the balls to kick out virus Jogba.
The guy is the root of all evil, just play for himself and demotivate the rest
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poch rumors in
but it will be teh same with any other managers as long as woodward is there and no DOF
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as long as can bench maguire and pogba. i take it
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 5 2020, 06:59 PM)
what shaw is doing at that side of the pitch lol

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Matic also in blame for that goal, he is the last man standing there but he didn't close down demba ba

If u compare Fred/Mc Tom and this midfield combo, i rather stick with Fred/Mc Tom for the time being.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 6 2020, 10:16 AM)
Matic also in blame for that goal, he is the last man standing there but he didn't close down demba ba

If u compare Fred/Mc Tom and this midfield combo, i rather stick with Fred/Mc Tom for the time being.
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Matic can't run to save his life. So forget about that. In fact the only one who can run in the center is lindelof (not start) and Scott. Harry confirm cant run.
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Nov 6 2020, 08:15 AM)
Hope the new manager has the balls to kick out virus Jogba.
The guy is the root of all evil, just play for himself and demotivate the rest
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Dont think so the new manager will kick him out so fast..quite sure every new manager will be curious on how to use him on the field given his big name...only will realize he is a fraud later on..by then it will be their turn to get sacked
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 6 2020, 10:36 AM)
Matic can't run to save his life. So forget about that. In fact the only one who can run in the center is lindelof (not start) and Scott. Harry confirm cant run.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 6 2020, 10:36 AM)
Matic can't run to save his life. So forget about that. In fact the only one who can run in the center is lindelof (not start) and Scott. Harry confirm cant run.
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Matic should have keep the gap with Demba ba, not maintaining huge gap when both CB attack so high up. This is football basic and impossible Matic didn't aware of it.
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Nov 6 2020, 08:15 AM)
Hope the new manager has the balls to kick out virus Jogba.
The guy is the root of all evil, just play for himself and demotivate the rest
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 6 2020, 08:37 AM)
as long as can bench maguire and pogba. i take it
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Yes...pogba..time to cut losses on this fella
Board should have listened to JM instead of backing up pogba
A real virus
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 6 2020, 12:06 PM)
Matic should have keep the gap with Demba ba, not maintaining huge gap when both CB attack so high up. This is football basic and impossible Matic didn't aware of it.
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thats true la. maguire lindeloft will also blame why you so far away since you are last man and depend on you.
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what can harry do? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 6 2020, 12:06 PM)
Matic should have keep the gap with Demba ba, not maintaining huge gap when both CB attack so high up. This is football basic and impossible Matic didn't aware of it.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 6 2020, 01:00 PM)
thats true la. maguire lindeloft will also blame why you so far away since you are last man and depend on you.
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You put the big boys in the box and at least one player, preferably fast on or near the line to prevent or delay a counter. You don't put matic there..... All up but so little chances created. Thats just crazy..
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thats true la. maguire lindeloft will also blame why you so far away since you are last man and depend on you.
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Just accept the fact that the whole team is sampah.

Everyone from the management, coaches and players. Looking at the rate this club is going, I foresee a Barca 2.0 soon. Funds will dry up, especially commercially.

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Harry should be removed as captain right away as he dont deserve to be one especially for United!!! Bruno has been torn apart in every game, he deserves a break... I guess Ole under estimated the minor club which might be his final mistake as United boss. Transfers not controlled by manager thus this should be the key demand for whoever comes next. Pogba should go, Harry should be placed on bench for now, Lindelof and Tuanzebe should play more games. Fred and McTom should be among the first pick for any game. Not Frogba!!!
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Nov 6 2020, 02:06 PM)
Just accept the fact that the whole team is sampah.

Everyone from the management, coaches and players. Looking at the rate this club is going, I foresee a Barca 2.0 soon. Funds will dry up, especially commercially.
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How sampah barca also reach UCL final and 2nd place in la liga. Let's compare to 2000s Leeds or Selangor.
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So I take it you guys have had enough of Ole? For me since I write off the season for him to learn because God says he deserves it. Just make sure next time when I become manager you all don't call for my head only.after 2 season yeah.

If we are to demand success, then should've let him go early this season. Now rotten to the core. Dont even know how to defend anymore....and Ole already clueless how to answer.
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QUOTE(ray_WD @ Nov 6 2020, 02:06 PM)
Harry should be removed as captain right away as he dont deserve to be one especially for United!!! Bruno has been torn apart in every game, he deserves a break... I guess Ole under estimated the minor club which might be his final mistake as United boss. Transfers not controlled by manager thus this should be the key demand for whoever comes next. Pogba should go, Harry should be placed on bench for now, Lindelof and Tuanzebe should play more games. Fred and McTom should be among the first pick for any game. Not Frogba!!!
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How sampah barca also reach UCL final and 2nd place in la liga. Let's compare to 2000s Leeds or Selangor.
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how isit possible that the players we have were one of the top players in their positions before joining and become crap after half a season of coaching? Keep on buying top players under this manager will also turn to crap after awhile.
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harry can "hug" you. No matter you are opposition or the same team, just beware. Then you can't outrun him
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He wil sumo wrestle own teammate in a defending setpiece. Amazing what 80m brings u these days
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 6 2020, 02:32 PM)
how isit possible that the players we have were one of the top players in their positions before joining and become crap after half a season of coaching? Keep on buying top players under this manager will also turn to crap after awhile.
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to be fair, not only ole. all others who join also become crap post fergie haha. only homegrown are getting better like rashford, greenwood.

i don't support oleout not because i jilat him, but i don't believe whoever comes in cannot win title in this or even next season. might as well gamble with existing and hope got miracle winning run like when he is interim coach, since it's a 1-2 years wait again.

tactic he good or not i tak tau. but he is the only one where we able score 5 goals a match post fergie. and if not wrong the best records again top6 post fergie. but of cos kena belasah and creating record at other end too.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 6 2020, 03:41 PM)
to be fair, not only ole. all others who join also become crap post fergie haha. only homegrown are getting better like rashford, greenwood.

i don't support oleout not because i jilat him, but i don't believe whoever comes in cannot win title in this or even next season. might as well gamble with existing and hope got miracle winning run like when he is interim coach, since it's a 1-2 years wait again.

tactic he good or not i tak tau. but he is the only one where we able score 5 goals a match post fergie. and if not wrong the best records again top6 post fergie. but of cos kena belasah and creating record at other end too.
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Obviously Ole is tactically inapt.

The day he made Maguire crap his captain, I lost faith in him. Score 5 goals a match is an achievement? What about losing 1-6 to Spurs? Come on, don’t be blinded by nostalgia, just because he’s an idol for the club. Clearly he’s not suitable for the job.

What the club needs now is to get rid of Kayu and Ole. Get a DOF and let footballing people handle football tasks. Also, a manager who has aura, commands the respect of the dressing room and tactically wise - not some high offside trap kantoi by Demba Ba nonesense.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Nov 6 2020, 04:07 PM)
Obviously Ole is tactically inapt.

The day he made Maguire crap his captain, I lost faith in him. Score 5 goals a match is an achievement? What about losing 1-6 to Spurs? Come on, don’t be blinded by nostalgia, just because he’s an idol for the club. Clearly he’s not suitable for the job.

What the club needs now is to get rid of Kayu and Ole. Get a DOF and let footballing people handle football tasks. Also, a manager who has aura, commands the respect of the dressing room and tactically wise - not some high offside trap kantoi by Demba Ba nonesense.
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yes score 5 goals certainly achievement. if it's so simple to do that, moyes, lvg, or even jm should be able to do so. i enjoy alot watching high scoring matches, players scoring hatrick. more like the hate on ole clueless face, and duduk watch ipad at bench, ppl conveniently swept aside all his mini achievements. i would prefer he stand on touchline too like conte though.

again no players able score hatrick under the last 3 managers. i don't want the days like lvg time, 0-0. 1-0, 0-1. snore fest. remember we curse jm who park the bus when we go 1-0 up and end up 1-1? malaysians mudah lupa haha.

i don't get how julian nagelsmann kena belasah 5-0 and we are forgiving on him. because he don't have 180M pogba and maguire combo and managing a cheap team? if we give these 2 fellow to spurs, arsenal, i don't even know jm, arteta want to use them or not. for sure can't even get a starting spot at city/pool.

unfortunately getting rid of kayu is impossible and don't even need to talk about it. can only get rid of ole.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 6 2020, 04:46 PM)
yes score 5 goals certainly achievement. if it's so simple to do that, moyes, lvg, or even jm should be able to do so. i enjoy alot watching high scoring matches, players scoring hatrick. more like the hate on ole clueless face, and duduk watch ipad at bench, ppl conveniently swept aside all his mini achievements. i would prefer he stand on touchline too like conte though.

again no players able score hatrick under the last 3 managers. i don't want the days like lvg time, 0-0. 1-0, 0-1. snore fest. remember we curse jm who park the bus when we go 1-0 up and end up 1-1? malaysians mudah lupa haha.

i don't get how julian nagelsmann kena belasah 5-0 and we are forgiving on him. because he don't have 180M pogba and maguire combo and managing a cheap team? if we give these 2 fellow to spurs, arsenal, i don't even know jm, arteta want to use them or not. for sure can't even get a starting spot at city/pool.

unfortunately getting rid of kayu is impossible and don't even need to talk about it. can only get rid of ole.
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eh?

LvG = FA Cup
Jose = League Cup, Charity Shield, Europa League, EPL 2nd place
Ole = 5-0 Liepzig, 4-1 Newcastle?

so u prefer more goals in some matches and lost to crystal palace than win ugly and become champions? doh.gif



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...so i have a bunch of star player in my squad that only want to attack but lazy to defend.. when play attacking football they fail to deliver .. so i switched to "park-the-bus" tactic to get results and win some trophies.. and fan is not happy i win ugly.. thats fucked up!

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QUOTE(arvind13 @ Nov 5 2020, 02:49 PM)
Yeah absolutely shambolic defending... 10 united players in Opponent half...
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thats attacking football for you.. with a bunch of incompetent coaches, a clueless manager, and a Maguire .. and the same fans complaint about it ..

u see .. the current squad under ole is shit... cant defend well, and u know what is scarry? they cant event attack.. even bruno still playing full when he play shit .. rmember, this set of players at 2nd half all attacking minded players.. but if u hv clueless manager, idiot coaches, even prime maradona and pele can flop.. and make cruyff request for transfer

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Nov 6 2020, 04:56 PM)
eh?

LvG = FA Cup
Jose = League Cup, Charity Shield, Europa League, EPL 2nd place
Ole = 5-0 Liepzig, 4-1 Newcastle?

so u prefer more goals in some matches and lost to crystal palace than win ugly and become champions?  doh.gif

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truth is i memang enjoy watching ole team than lvg jose team. for those who don't watch match and see result only, of course it's different thing. and feel lvg is good with fa cup. for those who watch every match. lvg matches are so hard to watch. except vs pool. he has superb record vs pool. passing sideways and backwards is tactically good?

lvg jose are nowhere near of winning the league as well and even out of ucl spot when managing here. if day day win 1-0 and win the epl, i take it anyday. but it's not also. if want rank in terms of purely entertainment, for me is ole > jm > lvg. of course jm 1st season is the best to watch, but we also have a hard time on 2nd and 3rd season is almost unwatchable just like certain ole matches until #jmout mari.

now it's #oleout and the cycle continues lol
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 6 2020, 05:29 PM)
truth is i memang enjoy watching ole team than lvg jose team. for those who don't watch match and see result only, of course it's different thing. and feel lvg is good with fa cup. for those who watch every match. lvg matches are so hard to watch. except vs pool. he has superb record vs pool. passing sideways and backwards is tactically good?

lvg jose are nowhere near of winning the league as well and even out of ucl spot when managing here. if day day win 1-0 and win the epl, i take it anyday. but it's not also. if want rank in terms of purely entertainment, for me is ole > jm > lvg. of course jm 1st season is the best to watch, but we also have a hard time on 2nd and 3rd season is almost unwatchable just like certain ole matches until #jmout mari.

now it's #oleout and the cycle continues lol
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ole tactic is not fun too.. just counter attack and clueless

yes, #OleOut and the cycle continue to another manager, it doesnt matter as long as not ole

jose just got MU to 2nd place and want more transfer to come in .. he want to sell pogba but got blocked .. the board failed him like they did to ole .. at least he won us europa league, not like ole losing to sevilla with his shit maguire and pogba

anyway, ole is not good enough.
with the atracking power of vdb+bruno+martial+rashford+pogba+greenwood+cavani but still lost shows how bad he is.. simply clueless

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Nov 6 2020, 05:49 PM)
ole tactic is not fun too.. just counter attack and clueless

yes, #OleOut and the cycle continue to another manager, it doesnt matter as long as not ole

jose just got MU to 2nd place and want more transfer to come in .. he want to sell pogba but got blocked .. the board failed him like they did to ole .. at least he won us europa league, not like ole losing to sevilla with his shit maguire and pogba

anyway, ole is not good enough.
with the atracking power of vdb+bruno+martial+rashford+pogba+greenwood+cavani but still lost shows how bad he is.. simply clueless
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ya i believe jose will thrive if get backing from board. but we reset haha. vdb+bruno+martial+rashford+pogba+greenwood+cavani. take jogba out of the equation then should be better outlook. if he got sacked, i can't say it's undeserved also due to his stubborness on jogba.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 6 2020, 05:56 PM)
ya i believe jose will thrive if get backing from board. but we reset haha. vdb+bruno+martial+rashford+pogba+greenwood+cavani. take jogba out of the equation then should be better outlook. if he got sacked, i can't say it's undeserved also due to his stubborness on jogba.
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What if I told you the board went behind the manager to buy a replacement player and wanted to sell pogba at a lower valuation but was blocked by ole.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 6 2020, 05:29 PM)
truth is i memang enjoy watching ole team than lvg jose team. for those who don't watch match and see result only, of course it's different thing. and feel lvg is good with fa cup. for those who watch every match. lvg matches are so hard to watch. except vs pool. he has superb record vs pool. passing sideways and backwards is tactically good?

lvg jose are nowhere near of winning the league as well and even out of ucl spot when managing here. if day day win 1-0 and win the epl, i take it anyday. but it's not also. if want rank in terms of purely entertainment, for me is ole > jm > lvg. of course jm 1st season is the best to watch, but we also have a hard time on 2nd and 3rd season is almost unwatchable just like certain ole matches until #jmout mari.

now it's #oleout and the cycle continues lol
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And you don't see plenty of sideways and backwards passing now?? What's worse is I can't even point out what the team is actually good at now. Not a single thing. But let's also stick with carrick and mckenna and hope they can coach multiple trophy champions out of the current team.
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What if I told you the board went behind the manager to buy a replacement player and wanted to sell pogba at a lower valuation but was blocked by ole.
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possible. because jogba is ole's son

#OleOut
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What if I told you the board went behind the manager to buy a replacement player and wanted to sell pogba at a lower valuation but was blocked by ole.
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If this is true, Ole need to leave... soon...
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imagine if poch is MU manager.. do u think he will take out van de beek in that game against basaksehir? obsolutely not ..

"SOLSKJAER NEED MORE TIME"

look.. if we play good attacking football and losing , the anti-ole agenda wont happen .. the thing is, HE IS CLUELESS
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 6 2020, 06:05 PM)
What if I told you the board went behind the manager to buy a replacement player and wanted to sell pogba at a lower valuation but was blocked by ole.
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Bro, you always seem to know the inner workings of MUFC, biar betik leh...
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 6 2020, 06:05 PM)
What if I told you the board went behind the manager to buy a replacement player and wanted to sell pogba at a lower valuation but was blocked by ole.
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if ole put his head on the line for jogba, since jogba fail, kena sack also is deserved

QUOTE(maserati @ Nov 6 2020, 06:31 PM)
And you don't see plenty of sideways and backwards passing now?? What's worse is I can't even point out what the team is actually good at now. Not a single thing. But let's also stick with carrick and mckenna and hope they can coach multiple trophy champions out of the current team.
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Bro, you always seem to know the inner workings of MUFC, biar betik leh...
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maybe he is staff in MUFC. better tell ole to stop using jogba

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talk about diamond formation .. poch diamond vs ole diamond

spurs 0 - 1 manutd

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62% possesion, 567 passes

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38% possesion, 363 passes

i remember this game, where i expect ole's MU to lose ... but rashford won the game for ole .. this was last year

pogba and herrera plays box-to-box with herrera doing all the dirty work, to cover pogba lazy defensive duty .. jones+lindelof at the center back ..

i did talk shit about poch. but after that game against basaksehir, i change my mind , poch is better ...and suddenly i have this feeling if poch have this current MU squad under him.. using his diamond formation with van de beek, bruno, cavani, martial, telles, .. and if MU can sell pogba, poch just need to get CB and CDM , he can do wonders.. ONLY IF POGBA GO



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if poch mari, later you will see jogba in line up again haha. then godlike mode for 10-15 games as pogba.....then revert back to jogba
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We all know the problem..it’s the bod..

Dulu ada saf which is a genius to cover the bod..

But now.. ole is just not good enough..

Change manager pun won’t help..
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The way we are talking. I wonder if Wood is feeling the same. Next match lose and get sacked?

Win?
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if poch mari, later you will see jogba in line up again haha. then godlike mode for 10-15 games as pogba.....then revert back to jogba
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sell pogba and buy a new CDM

...diamond under poch.. this could work

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Bro, you always seem to know the inner workings of MUFC, biar betik leh...
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I just copied the entire msg from our chat group, just changed the words 'the boss' to 'ole'

Most of the replies from us were profanities FYI.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 6 2020, 06:05 PM)
What if I told you the board went behind the manager to buy a replacement player and wanted to sell pogba at a lower valuation but was blocked by ole.
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Source?
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post Nov 6 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 6 2020, 10:27 PM)
Source?
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Unverified whispers at the club from someone with more than 5 years working at the club. We hear stories like these few times a month. Met him during pilgrimage to OT.
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Rasa macam xnak tengok game esok if pogba still play..haha
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QUOTE(aa1985 @ Nov 7 2020, 12:01 AM)
Rasa macam xnak tengok game esok if pogba still play..haha
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now the momentum is i rather see james/bruno play than pogba/bruno haha.

bruno form ain't good either
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...Basaksehir.html

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The greatest Man Utd's manager of all time:
1) Sir Alex Ferguson
2) Ole as interim manager
3) Ole in the brink of being sacked

Don't worry guys, we will win the next few games
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post Nov 7 2020, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(bansai @ Nov 6 2020, 10:42 PM)
Unverified whispers at the club from someone with more than 5 years working at the club. We hear stories like these few times a month. Met him during pilgrimage to OT.
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I'll take that with 10 handfuls of salt, thanks.

Either way let us know when Ole's times up. Preferably before the press.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Nov 7 2020, 11:18 AM)
I'll take that with 10 handfuls of salt, thanks.

Either way let us know when Ole's times up. Preferably before the press.
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It was neither confirmed or denied by him. He just posed us a what if. Drink that salt up.

Go join red cafe. The long time members there are very knowledgeable of inside workings and once you get to know some special. Some lyn members also there with similar nicks albeit very quiet.
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dailymail on jm:

He also managed to win three trophies, the most of any of the managers, but did have the highest net spend at a staggering £315m. The final 10 games of his reign were much worse than Solskjaer's too.

reading this article give me dejavu. jm is for sure tactical sound, but players decide to throw manager under bus, or relax aje, manager cant do shit about it and lose like clueless/toxic manager. current team performance gives same feeling aje.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 7 2020, 03:52 PM)
dailymail on jm:

He also managed to win three trophies, the most of any of the managers, but did have the highest net spend at a staggering £315m. The final 10 games of his reign were much worse than Solskjaer's too.

reading this article give me dejavu. jm is for sure tactical sound, but players decide to throw manager under bus, or relax aje, manager cant do shit about it and lose like clueless/toxic manager. current team performance gives same feeling aje.
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one thing for sure, these players like Ole.. Mr. Nice Guy.. it is very much different from JM.. JM criticized them in public in front of the press.. only few players like playing for JM that time

the current performance very similar to Moyes time.. the players playing with mid-table style of approach and mentality.. hope for some individual brilliance happen while opponent already know how to shut his gameplan down..

and also that was the time United hired a manager based on sentiment too..
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Somehow I felt United gonna win against Everton

Poch in and Ole out won't make any difference in term winning EPL or CL

Both managers demand players high pressure and early block which United lost 2 games in a row (Arsenal and Istanbul) the team doesn't make any effort to block early and high press. And very contrary with PSG and RB Leipzig games but Ole more defensive mindset than Poch


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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Nov 7 2020, 05:34 PM)
Somehow I felt United gonna win against Everton

Poch in and Ole out won't make any difference in term winning EPL or CL

Both managers demand players high pressure and early block which United lost 2 games in a row (Arsenal and Istanbul) the team doesn't make any effort to block early and high press. And very contrary with PSG and RB Leipzig games but Ole more defensive mindset than Poch
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Its not just the play styles and tactics, the training regime and personnel plays a huge part too. If Poch in and he can overhaul the coach and training crew, the possibilities of the team improving their performance will be significant.
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Nov 7 2020, 07:31 PM)
Damn, I feel really bad for wanting the team to lose tonight... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Morale and anger is high in the team. Seems like players want ole to stay.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Nov 7 2020, 04:55 PM)
one thing for sure, these players like Ole.. Mr. Nice Guy..  it is very much different from JM.. JM criticized them in public in front of the press.. only few players like playing for JM that time

the current performance very similar to Moyes time.. the players playing with mid-table style of approach and mentality.. hope for some individual brilliance happen while opponent already know how to shut his gameplan down..

and also that was the time United hired a manager based on sentiment too..
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Wonder whr jm team is currently sitting
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Come on utd..make it a hat trick loss

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 7 2020, 06:11 PM)
Its not just the play styles and tactics,  the training regime and personnel plays a huge part too. If Poch in and he can overhaul the coach and training crew, the possibilities of the team improving their performance will be significant.
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As much as I like carrick..haish.. 🥴
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Nov 7 2020, 06:11 PM)
Its not just the play styles and tactics,  the training regime and personnel plays a huge part too. If Poch in and he can overhaul the coach and training crew, the possibilities of the team improving their performance will be significant.
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agree with this, our training still not good enough
players still doing same mistake, never learnt from the past
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Nov 7 2020, 07:31 PM)
When life onnthe line suddenly he will bench pogba.. but harry jones still on
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Thank you note from Everton for our MBE:



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post Nov 7 2020, 08:37 PM

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looks like 2 lose in a row not making us learn anything

still the same boring tactic

i dont remember the last time we have a creative pass
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Cave is open for all yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif
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Yes.. bocor bocor bocor...

I feel like a crazy person.. MU score I jerit, Everton score I jerit... lol
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3 more and poch in or not
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ole on the touchline. that something new lol
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post Nov 7 2020, 08:51 PM

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Long term rental or long term ownership? lolx

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Nov 7 2020, 08:51 PM)
3 more and poch in or not
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should start looking for replacement already. by the time we found 1, maybe already lost 10 lol
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Easy win if u are a punter. Jus take MU no clean sheet every game je