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 [2020]iPhone 12 Pro/Pro Max Discussion Thread | V1, It’s a leap year.

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post Oct 14 2020, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Oct 14 2020, 04:01 PM)
i dont intend to keep it lar... since my dad is the one using 6s... so i will pass him my 7+ instead...
hence the trading in... icon_idea.gif
do let me know which outlet has the best deal for trade in...
i can use RM300 for many things (case / power adapter and other accessories)
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I'll be passing mine down to my mum and retiring her 5S although she still prefers the compact size of the 5S (and she uses it more like as if it was a Nokia feature phone).
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post Oct 14 2020, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(red1982 @ Oct 14 2020, 03:42 PM)
gonna miss free earpods sad.gif
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i still using my iphone 5s earpod, Meanwhile the 1 from ip8 seldom use bcos it come with lighting head instead 3.5mm. (which cant use it with my pc)
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Oct 14 2020, 03:45 PM)
Flagship Android phones prices getting higher because they make profit via the hardware with excuses like Qualcomm 5G modem expensive etc. Apple is now getting more revenue from Services, hence they no longer sell iphone at such high margin. Makes sense for Apple to get more people into their eco system so that they earn from Services revenue.

I thought I will get iphone and make the painful switch from Android to Apple. Apple software much more stable than Android and the support cycle much longer. But the 120Hz screen... I need faster refresh rate because I read a lot from phones... my eyes getting painful...

120Hz does help reading?
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Technically it just makes scrolling smoother, so depending on how much you scroll when you read? Hahaha... no idea, but I've tried 60hz, 90hz and 120hz refresh rate displays throughout this year and for me personally, the difference is negligible but maybe because I'm old and my eyes aren't as good as before laugh.gif

QUOTE(silencer5089 @ Oct 14 2020, 04:03 PM)
Just dig around sirim database and confirmed they have registered for the 12/12pro respectively. Expect the launch to be same like last year 11 seriess 1 week after US launch.

quoted from apple newsroom website
iPhone 12 Pro will be available in India, South Korea, and more than a dozen other countries beginning Friday, October 30.

if everything goes well, we shall expect it to launch on october 30th.

I'm going back to the smaller pro size this round, pro max simply too big to carry around  shakehead.gif

Screen protection wise will still get imos sapphire glass, always best.  icon_idea.gif
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But the Pro Max has the better cameras this round too, apparently. Not a selling point for you?

"The iPhone 12 Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max would seem to have the same camera setup — three rear lenses aided by a LiDAR sensor. But even though each phone has a wide, ultrawide and telephoto lens, Apple has has changed the optics ever so slightly. On the iPhone 12 Pro, the main camera now features an f/1.6 aperture, which should let in more light when shooting photos or video. (Apple promises a 27% improvement.) The iPhone 12 Pro Max has the same 12MP camera with the same aperture, but the sensor itself is larger, meaning an even bigger improvement for low-light photos. Both phones have the same 12MP ultrawide angle lens with an f/2.4 aperture and a 120-degree field of view. But the telephoto lenses are different — the iPhone 12 Pro has an f/2.0 aperture while the iPhone 12 Pro Max's is f/2.2. More to the point, they have different focal lengths — 52mm for the iPhone 12 Pro and 65mm for the iPhone 12 Pro Max. That leads to different zoom capabilities, with the iPhone 12 Pro offering a 4x optical range to the iPhone 12 Pro Max's 5x range."

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post Oct 14 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Oct 14 2020, 04:10 PM)
Yes. So damn convenient. No need to tape around ur SIM card. I was telling this to uncle Benny since the launch of esim on iPhone XS which benefit travellers but everyone goes on and rant about wanting a dual sim card.
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Which country and telco that you went to that allowed esims for prepaid cards?
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post Oct 14 2020, 04:31 PM

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My main concern with e-SIM is I cant switch phone easily.

Sadly the border is closed this year else I will get the dual-sim slot variant from HK.
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Oct 14 2020, 04:31 PM)
My main concern with e-SIM is I cant switch phone easily.

Sadly the border is closed this year else I will get the dual-sim slot variant from HK.
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Can still get from sellers like T&L which specializes in selling imported sets.
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post Oct 14 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 14 2020, 04:23 PM)
Technically it just makes scrolling smoother, so depending on how much you scroll when you read? Hahaha... no idea, but I've tried 60hz, 90hz and 120hz refresh rate displays throughout this year and for me personally, the difference is negligible but maybe because I'm old and my eyes aren't as good as before laugh.gif
But the Pro Max has the better cameras this round too, apparently. Not a selling point for you?

"The iPhone 12 Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max would seem to have the same camera setup — three rear lenses aided by a LiDAR sensor. But even though each phone has a wide, ultrawide and telephoto lens, Apple has has changed the optics ever so slightly. On the iPhone 12 Pro, the main camera now features an f/1.6 aperture, which should let in more light when shooting photos or video. (Apple promises a 27% improvement.) The iPhone 12 Pro Max has the same 12MP camera with the same aperture, but the sensor itself is larger, meaning an even bigger improvement for low-light photos. Both phones have the same 12MP ultrawide angle lens with an f/2.4 aperture and a 120-degree field of view. But the telephoto lenses are different — the iPhone 12 Pro has an f/2.0 aperture while the iPhone 12 Pro Max's is f/2.2. More to the point, they have different focal lengths — 52mm for the iPhone 12 Pro and 65mm for the iPhone 12 Pro Max. That leads to different zoom capabilities, with the iPhone 12 Pro offering a 4x optical range to the iPhone 12 Pro Max's 5x range."

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i don't need pro quality camera and the sensor shift stabilization is not a selling point for me hahaha. As long as it takes better night shots than 11 pro ok liao~ thumbup.gif
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post Oct 14 2020, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Oct 14 2020, 03:45 PM)
Flagship Android phones prices getting higher because they make profit via the hardware with excuses like Qualcomm 5G modem expensive etc. Apple is now getting more revenue from Services, hence they no longer sell iphone at such high margin. Makes sense for Apple to get more people into their eco system so that they earn from Services revenue.

I thought I will get iphone and make the painful switch from Android to Apple. Apple software much more stable than Android and the support cycle much longer. But the 120Hz screen... I need faster refresh rate because I read a lot from phones... my eyes getting painful...

120Hz does help reading?
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No 120Hz doesn't help in reading. It only supports smoother scrolling and app switching animation. Most essential for gaming.

So if you are on a webpages and trying to read while scrolling with a much more fluid animation it might probably[I] reduces eye strain like trying to read as soon as the scrolling animation stops. But then that is under the assumption that your phone has not used up the RAM and CPU not high utilized.

If you a reading a page and the page is not moving it is essentially useless.
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post Oct 14 2020, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(silencer5089 @ Oct 14 2020, 04:03 PM)
Just dig around sirim database and confirmed they have registered for the 12/12pro respectively. Expect the launch to be same like last year 11 seriess 1 week after US launch.

quoted from apple newsroom website
iPhone 12 Pro will be available in India, South Korea, and more than a dozen other countries beginning Friday, October 30.

if everything goes well, we shall expect it to launch on october 30th.

I'm going back to the smaller pro size this round, pro max simply too big to carry around  shakehead.gif

Screen protection wise will still get imos sapphire glass, always best.  icon_idea.gif
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really? where to buy?
i see mobilereviewseh recommending this brand FLOLAB Nanoarmour
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Oct 14 2020, 04:51 PM)
really? where to buy?
i see mobilereviewseh recommending this brand FLOLAB Nanoarmour
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imos brand has been in malaysia for few years already, just for the price not much people really willing to fork out for it, rm335 for a piece whistling.gif
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post Oct 14 2020, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(TSEyeCare @ Oct 14 2020, 12:41 PM)
Can the nano sim tray support nano memory card?
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you can use this san disk ixpand thingy.
i bought at shopee 128gb around rm160.
the size quite small. i put inside my wallet only

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Migrating from android to apple but dilemma whether go for iphone 12 or 11. What make me bother is the price different. What my job need is camera and efficieny of iOS. I dont really need those 5G stuff. Any suggestion guys?
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post Oct 14 2020, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(hafizlew @ Oct 14 2020, 05:16 PM)
Migrating from android to apple but dilemma whether go for iphone 12 or 11. What make me bother is the price different. What my job need is camera and efficieny of iOS. I dont really need those 5G stuff. Any suggestion guys?
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iPhone 11 camera is actually pretty already. If u don't mind and older model. Grab it now. You might be able to find some good deals.

I myself will definitely going for 12 Pro Max
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post Oct 14 2020, 05:26 PM

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Well well.
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QUOTE(ahlin @ Oct 14 2020, 05:26 PM)
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Well well.
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wow, that fast... probably start selling next Friday 23rd laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ryanice8888 @ Oct 14 2020, 03:02 PM)
overall i'm happy with apple return of small phone. definitely gonna purchase iphone 12 mini.

but fak apple seriously, no USB-C, no 120hz display (would have purchased pro if they ProMotion display), removal of charger/earpods. even battery they didn't even bother to elaborate like + how many hours etc, i expect the battery to be worst if not similar.

I mean at least 90hz should be there at 2020 at that price point.
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I have iPad Pro with 120hz display...to be honest, It is really nice to see when surfing Safari but I don't actually miss it when I used my iPhone. So, this is not a deal breaker for me...Maybe it is just me. But I do agree with this price point, they should have included the ProMotion.

But then, still Lightning when their Macbook and iPad Pro are all USB C?? come on Apple....

However, when I think about it. With MagSafe, they might remove the charging port entire in their future phone (maybe iPhone 13) when everyone is accustomed to this new way of charging. U know, u can now finally "wireless" charge you phone while still holding it with your hand and use the phone. So, that's' why they don't even bother wasting time, money and resources in updating the port to USB-C doh.gif

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I can’t imagine anyone would want to buy an iPhone 12 when there is no 5G in Malaysia.

I remember last time when iPhone 5 was released in Malaysia, there was no 4G.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Oct 14 2020, 04:36 PM)
No 120Hz doesn't help in reading. It only supports smoother scrolling and app switching animation. Most essential for gaming.

So if you are on a webpages and trying to read while scrolling with a much more fluid animation it might probably[I] reduces eye strain like trying to read as soon as the scrolling animation stops. But then that is under the assumption that your phone has not used up the RAM and CPU not high utilized.

If you a reading a page and the page is not moving it is essentially useless.
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Ya it is the scrolling down of webpages to read, plus pictures etc. And when outside or abroad for watching youtube, netflixs etc. So I guess it matters. I guess I will wait for more reviews before making the painful switch from Android to Apple. I don't think 2021 Malaysia will have above 80% coverage for 5G especially for DIGI, I could be wrong.
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QUOTE(PHI_1.618 @ Oct 14 2020, 05:32 PM)
I have iPad Pro with 120hz display...to be honest, It is really nice to see when surfing Safari but I don't actually miss it when I used my iPhone. So, this is not a deal breaker for me...Maybe it is just me. But I do agree with this price point, they should have included the ProMotion.

But then, still Lightning when their Macbook and iPad Pro are all USB C?? come on Apple....

However, when I think about it. With MagSafe, they might remove the charging port entire in their future phone (maybe iPhone 13) when everyone is accustomed to this new way of charging. U know, u can now finally "wireless" charge you phone while still holding it with your hand and use the phone. So, that's' why they don't even bother wasting time, money and resources in updating the port to USB-C  doh.gif
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no doubts 120Mhz is a plus and should have move to usb-c, these two seems everyone are hoping to be at least in the 12 lineup

and next year Apple remove port, then remove cable... further cut down carbon emission... doh.gif
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QUOTE(hafizlew @ Oct 14 2020, 05:16 PM)
Migrating from android to apple but dilemma whether go for iphone 12 or 11. What make me bother is the price different. What my job need is camera and efficieny of iOS. I dont really need those 5G stuff. Any suggestion guys?
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12 for the screen, new design, new chips

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