Hello,

Struggling to decide whether do I need to coat my new vehicle.

The reason is I just want it to stay glossy as long as possible then coating has come to my mind. Has done lots lf research and check and come to conclusion that coating will denifinitely not able to protect your car from chips and water marks and also will need to maintain it by washing and drying it often.

Then i also come across few brand and coating product and would like to know anyone here has used/tried any of the product below? Can tell your feedback? Whether your car still remain as gloss as new after some time?(more than 6months)

Brand i checked as below:
Supahado ( claimed that not afraid rain but not with tap water as the chlorine is bad for the coat. Can come to do detail cleaning every few months to clear the water marks)

Revivify self healing LPPF coat. ( haddness is 6H so not like other 9H hardness that is so hard and those chips mark will remain there. Can self recover when heated by heat gun at 80degree so can send back to workshop to recover by letting them to heat the LPPF thus it able to recover and remove some minor stone chips stain)

Gtech ( one car a day coating so provide you a good quality coat)

Ceramic coating ( coating with most reviews. Provide free touch up anytime within the warranty period. Price higher then other coating by 1k)

ULGO ss2 ( coating with japan brand. 5layers coating)

Anyone can share your experience on those coating above or any good recommendations? Thanks alot

This post has been edited by lkhdungeon: Sep 23 2020, 01:04 PM

Thanks for bringing this up, would like to know as well. What's the price range like?

The purpose of PPF or coating is to reduce the maintenance/washing of the car right?

With PPF or coating, is waxing still necessary? Can you use other products such as wax/sealant/clay?

got budget, do PPF as ppf is really meant to avoid rock chips, simple wash scratches, easier to remove highway bugs.

i did both PPF for front part of the car and ceramic coating. i highly regret doing ceramic coating (at some reputable brand also) as its honestly useless. the shine and water bead can be obtain if you wash,clay,wax your car.

Ppf is too expensive 😂

Cheap range 1k
Normal range 2-3k
Expensive - 3k and above

Ppf can protect your car. It is like a layer of plastic on your car. Actually to me it is not that useful because you dont really enjoy the benefit of ppf as you only remove the ppf when you wan to sell your car with better pricing in future so the next owner will only benefit from it.

For coating it is just a thin layer of liquid coated on your car surface and the thin layer will works to protect your car paint from uv light and etc. But it doesnt means you no need to wash your car. In fact you need to wash your car regularly to maintain the coating condition and cannot wash by those car wash shop under tree as the shampoo they used is usually cheap brand which will harm the coat. Also if you dont clean regularly it will have water marks which stay on your car which is ugly.

There is one new coating which is graphene coating which claims can reduce 90% of water mark compare to normal coating. But i can only found one shop doing this in kl so i do not have much information to compare. Still doubt on the graphene product as not much information can be compare.

With coating, you should not do any wazing or polishing as you will remove the coat and yeah then your money is gone.

This post has been edited by lkhdungeon: Sep 23 2020, 03:09 PM

Best solution with best bang of bucks is PPF on the front only. Then ceramic coating the rest. Should cost around 2k for PPF and ceramic coating if you let same company do, might be 500-1000.

TS is right in terms of maintainence for PPF and ceramic. A lot of people never do proper research and got duped by ceramic company saying their ceramic can protect even stone chips.

For ceramic coating, they range from 300 to 2500. I am not sure the difference as I am using the 300 one. You just need to always go back to them for car wash and maintenance. As long as you go back to them, they will make sure your car as shiny as new.

The warranty for ceramic or PPF, you still have to pay. Even when they say will touch up for you, you still need to pay during warranty period. Maybe first or second time have included FREE touch up. But most of the times you need to pay and it is not cheap either.

So for me, if you want to maintain the shine and mint paint condition you will need to invest lots of time and money. You need to go weekly back to the shop for them to wash your car and spend more money on them. If you DIY, you will need to R&D on good product like Meguairs, TurtleWax or Sonax. Constantly wash your car too.

That is why you see tons and tons of coating and car wash shops are cropping up like crazy.

Just finished my Ceramic Coating today. Got the car for around a month and the staff already spotted several stone chips while prepping it, mostly at bonnet and front bumper. My initial plan was to do PPF, but ended up with ceramic coating. Firstly, is due to cost saving, and second is the possibility of changing car after 3 years.

If you gonna use your ride for years, then go PPF the front of ur car and coating the remaining area. I usually request them not to coat the windscreen as to avoid wiper juddering.

This post has been edited by Xccess: Jun 6 2022, 06:22 AM

Any recommendations for ppf? As if your ppf quality is bad it will turn yellow after some time

You can always do a "light coating" with off the shelves products (IGL Ecocoat Premier or OSREN Luminous Paintwork Coat) by yourself. These last several months.

I had supagard coating on my car. Supposed to last 5 years. It doesn't and I think maximum protection you get is probably 1.5 years at the most.

I am planning to do graphene coating by myself when I have time. Now considering either Adam Polishes or Ethos Graphene Matrix.

Actually water beading is bad for your paint as these water beads tends to deposit minerals on the paintwork as it dries. Water sheeting is better property to look out for.

This post has been edited by Cheeky: Sep 24 2020, 08:41 AM

For PPF, kindly do your due diligence on Getto Car Wrap & Magnus Pro, check the reviews and also survey those that were recommended by forummers here. For PPF, they have shelf life too. I have certain parts of my ride wrap at Getto, when enquire on PPF, the boss said have to replace once hit a 5 year mark or else it will turn yellow and cracks will appear.

My coating is done with Ceramic Pro, took the gold package with 7 years warranty at RM3,640.00 including free PPF for headlights, side mirrors and 4 handle cups guard (Magnus Pro).

This post has been edited by Xccess: Sep 24 2020, 11:39 AM


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Agreed ceramic coating is basically useless. It does neither protection for chips nor the usual rain tears drop stain. Those stain will have to be removed by using wax as normal car wash wont be able to do that esp light color cars where those black marks are easily visible

Like i mentioned at the start, coating cannot protect from chips or raindrops. It just help your car to stay glossy with sufficient maintenance.

that's the wrong perception of these products currently boggling the mind of the general public.

these are just additional protections on top of the clear coat that your car originally already has. think of it as an "insurance policy", if there's any impact then these layers are the first to be sacrificed without harming the original layers. they are by no means be taken to "lessen" the regular maintenance of a car's paintwork however they do make it less tedious to complete.

if you have either a PPF wrap or coating already applied then you don't need to apply any additional wax or sealant (although you can) on them because they become redundant. wax/sealant bonds to paintwork itself but doesn't bond well on PPF wraps or coatings (especially those with high hydrophobicity).

claying is part of a process for preparing the surface to ensure good bonding between the product and the paintwork, it will (performed properly) remove most of the particles/contaminants that bonds to the paintwork.

a good PPF or coating will prevent particles/contaminants from bonding with the car's paintwork (as they slide off the smooth surface of the product) so you don't need to clay but then again, if you let these contaminant sit for a prolonged period of time, they may eventually corrode the PFF or the coating.

it's not useless

it appears "useless" because consumers bought into the false representations/advertisements made by unscrupulous people, the perception that coating removes the necessity for regular maintenance of paintwork (aka car wash) is the one that kills the product.

coatings are for all intents and purposes, like putting on another layer of clear coat, it basically just "thickens" the layer of protection on top of the actual paintwork.

it's not an iron curtain

I just did my car at XG Detailers near Equine AEON- good price, car is shiny and glossy. Only thing is, have to wipe after rain, cant leave the water beads, might leave watermark. This is pretty normal even with standard paint. Advised to wash frequently too. Pretty happy so far.

i'm the user who use get ceramic pro gold package coating and been few year since coating , i think my opinion can give some guide line for those who tend to get ceramic pro coating.


1 st year the ceramic pro coating is in damm good shinning plus water repellent condition, just wash with car shampoo and the wipe it, all the dirty thing is just gone and shining as like just wax

2nd year, it start degrade even you wash the car as per recommend by them , water mark appear but still have some sort of water repellent affect. but glass portion, definitely no more water repellents effect

so from 2nd year , you should do once a year coating maintenance which is free under warranty package .

3rd year on ward until the warranty period over, the coating effect will not last more then a year, maintenance should be go for twice a year ( which is free as well)

my suggestion,

for those who are lazy to polish/ wash car, you may go for ceramic pro coating as their perform free maintenance during the warranty period. even you got car accident, after repaint they still free coating back for you.

after coating or coating maintenance, you just need use shampoo wash and easily water repellent effect appear. The only disadvantage is that you need spend two day a year for booking to perform coating maintenance your car.

For those who keep on saying ordinary polish/ wax will get the same affect. Yes , i agree, but it only last two to four week depend on your environment condition. AND you WILL NOT so damm hardworking every month go wax / polish your car ( perhaps for the 1st year of new car you will doing that )

another thing i need to emphasize, DUN BELIEVE about the stone chip prevention regardless of what kind of wrap or coating method! It will not help . unless you always drive 40-50 mph.

conclusion, ceramic pro is not a permanent coating but their package is charge inclusive of yearly maintenance under warranty period .

so if you have extra budget and is a lazy people like me for wax your car every month, go for it .DONNOT expect within the warranty period, you no need send back your car for perform coating maintenance .

I have another will go for coating for next month, I will not go for ceramic coating for my another car instead i plan go for opti coat as i heard ( hope) it did not need to perform yearly maintenance.

Will let you guys know the result after few year as I'm a guy like you all which look for opinion as well for the coating result,

as most of them give their opinion within the 1st year of coating which that not most of us want to hear as the coating is expensive like respray the car.

Hope my true experience of ceramic pro coating can make you to decide.

good interpretation for the real "function " of coating

I have also done 2 times coating one on CRV another one on BMW. (ceramic pro gold and platinum)

From my experience

1) Ceramic is a layer of glass coating on top of your clear coat, as people mentioned, it is a sacrificial layer, so if your car is hit by tiny stone, the glass layer will break first. The thickness of the layer is 3 layers ceramic coating = 1/3 paper. So 9 layers coating will only net you a glass thickness equivalent to a piece of paper.

2) Ceramic coating cannot prevent paint chip if hit by stone in high speed, but PPF is able to since it is a layer of plastic which isolate your car paint with the stone. However, it cannot prevent denting if the momentum of the stone is too strong.

3) Coated car will look more "wet" compared to uncoated car. My CRV still look damn wet compare to another CRV if parked side by side with another CRV during TT session.

4) PPF is not a perfect product. First thing first you need to choose a reputable brand as the adhesive itself can damage the car paint when you try to remove it.

5) PPF tends to get yellowish after 5 years. So if you do partial PPF, for example most people do hood and front bumper, after 5 years the color will be different to other parts of the car.

6) PPF cannot withstand high pressure car wash. So if you send your car to wash outside, need to remind the workers spray the water jet from a safe distance so your PPF doesn't fly off. I have seen a few exotic cars went back to re-do their PPF because of this.

7) Is coating worth it? For the wet look especially on darker color car, yes. For stone chip protection - No, it just make it less severe and easier to touch up if not serious. Is PPF worth it? Yes, it is a peace of mind driving and parking knowing your car is greatly protected from door bang and stone chip when you pass by lorries. However, you need to replace the PPF in 5 years time. If you plan to sell your car after 5 years, you are basically like keeping your GF virgin and pass to the next guy. But year if you want your car exterior on a perfectionist distinct condition while you own the car, then PPF is the only product on the market now for you.

Hi bro may I know have you proceeded with opti coat? How was it?

I have done coating to my car. And i used Ceramic Metal Oxide Coating from graphene. So far so good. Don't trust those advertise that 6H,,9H coating that can prevent scratches,stones chips. The purpose of of coating is just to keep your vehicle look shiny longer and protect your paint being oxidize under the direct sunlight. Coating the car also makes u clean your car easier. But after u coated, u need to maintain it, depends on the user that how he take care the car, like me every 6 month or so, will do a maintenance on my car coating to make sure that the paint is always in a well coated condition without any water mark or swelling on the paint.. For PPF wise, u can try Expel . if u got budget, u can wrap it full body, if not just wrap it the front parts of your vehicle and the door cards will be good enough. Is expensive to install PPF, but if u wanna use your car for long term, is worth to invest on it Just my 2 cents

6 years ago i tried Sierra Glow glass coat, cost me only RM 1k lasted for 5 years+, before it start to wear off, due me being too lazy to wash car and staying in condo that has no car wash

they offer free one time 3 panel re-coat if the car involved in accident and need to re-coat, they has a higher end which is the blue flame version
https://www.sierraglow.com/blue

they used to do a lot of advertisement last time, but now seems like not much anymore

good, it been one year plus and im the lazy guy that dun like to wash my car every week, perhaps once a month? And the result till now is still water repellent condition ( bear in mind i parking place at work is hardcode situation which very hot as near the river without tree and yet is red soil road) . so if u really want to do coating. i recommend it. as Ceramic pro. after i complaint, they said "we" need to wash EVERY WEEK in order not to degrade the ceramic pro ( what answer is that, if in this case ,better i go for polish and wax every month also not that expensive), however, good for them as they recoating for me, i would like to say customer service is good but the product is not i want, it not per advertise which mean the coating cannot prolog for many year as it cannot sustain the acidic raining, that y they said need wash every week...

i will do for my third car since the opti coat life span ( already one year plus ) is better then ceramic pro ( more then 2 year coating and within 2 year the result also poor then opti coat) . I hope it will not degrade after 2 nd year..lol... any ppl been done opti coat more then 2 year pls give some advise before i proceed.

As for ceramic pro, again, not that all negative comment, if you have time to send your car 3 time a year( after coating 3 year) for maintenance and can wait for slot for maintenance ( as i wait for 3 month after call for appointment to slot in ), your car definitely is more shinning compare to opti coat.

Or as told by their staff , if you still maintain wash your car every week start from the beginning of coating day ( which i only do it on 1st year) till the end of selling your car, may b you don;t need to send for maintenance .. and may i know who is washing the car everyweek after do the ceramic pro, does it really will not degrade the ceramic pro product ? ( even thought i know it not make sense as they claim is acidic prevention on their product, so why need to wash every week?)

This post has been edited by kokseong23: Mar 31 2022, 01:40 PM

Bro, may i know does you wash your car every week ( as they said need in order to prolong the ceramic pro life span) yet the ceramic pro is maintain in good condition which no need send for " free maintenace" ? just curious as i cannot feel the the glossy and water repellent function after third year on ward without need to send for maintenance.

Do you mind to PM me where you get the opti coat done?

do you mind to share where you did the opti coat? wanted to check it out too. thanks

Hi, would like to know about Opticoat and where you did it too. Thanks!

Interesting for my case, they did not mention anything about maintenance service. Just asking me to wash my car weekly (except the first week post coating)

Also, they did not sell any ceramic pro branded washing materials which is odd considering oversea branch is selling it.

PPF aka clear bra - protect from stone chip, though its not bullet proof, will still have in some cases.

Ceramic coating is just long lasting wax, water bead off, will ahve water mark but easy to wash it away.

Ceramic coating not necesary if ylu wash and wax your car periodically. Now got so many easy to apply wax, from soft99 or meguiars.Easily can DIY.

Ceramic coat aso must touch up and maintain.

Personally i would go PPF front facia, and just wax the car, wash regularly. Stone chips unavoidable if you drive on higway behind large trucks. Most bang for buck, and in some cases get better results.

May I know from where/who you got the opti coat done?

Hi all, may I tumpang sikit and ask what is the best coating for the car that will subject to constant outdoor weather, bright shine and rains?

Thank you very much sifu

Same but others I asked like Gyeon required maintenance in order to touch up and cover under warranty.

So I'm confuse as well.

Does it mean Ceramic Pro coating required weekly wash, while Gyeon other brands required not so frequent wash maybe one wash in 2 weeks time?

Seems like the sound of it. Lets say this particular part is quite murky in Malaysia as opposed to other location.

These day I just wash either 1 or 2 week intervals depending if it is sunny or raining most of time.

This post has been edited by minizian: Jun 2 2022, 09:24 AM

My car is coated with Ceramic Pro as well.. I asked them about maintenance as well and got the same reply as you (wash it weekly) but for their warranty part, they told me that whenever i felt the hydrophopic effect is weaken or i repainted any panel, I can contact them for recoat.

So basically their warranty policy is sort of the "maintenance". So far I had went back to them for free recoat service 3 times (2 times panel repaint, 1 time effect weaken after 1 year+)


Most ceramic coating will weaken in time due caused by stubborn dust/dirt or improper washing technique. I came across a few videos from YouTubers that are also providing ceramic coating service, and they too recommends to recoat or spray sio2 topper as maintenance every year while washing the car once every 1 or 2 weeks max

From my understanding, washing it more frequently will allow the coating to perform better as you are removing contamination on the surface and allows it to be smooth, hence better hydrophobic effect?

This post has been edited by more2teayap: Jun 2 2022, 12:34 PM

Oh I see already weaken after 1year+ although you are washing it once every 2 weeks max.
But okay la they do accept and willing to recoat.

Did you get their tinted together? since the highest package coating is free tinting, would like to know how's their tinting as well

I took the middle package, iirc gold package? It comes with free PPF on headlights and door cups.

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How's this coating for DIY, anyone?

okay sure & thanks a lot at least now I'm convinced with their service

To be honest, I dont find any different between Silver and Gold Package other than different warranty period.

I think they mention something like higher tier package have a thicker coat than silver. Also i remember something like higher package have interior coating which i am not keen in

For me i just tell them to do full front ppf and silver since i cant really see the difference other than the above mention ones

Otherwise their service is quite straightforward no bullshit, took abit longer than expected for PPF (i do mention pls take their time to make things right)

This post has been edited by minizian: Jun 8 2022, 04:34 PM

If i recalled correctly, gold has more layers of coat, longer warranty period and full interior coating.

Yes something like that, too bad they cant offer gold package without full interior coating and offer slight discount with interior coating excluded.

they keep asking me to WITH interior coataing.

I'm not so keen with it & only interested in exterior coating.

This post has been edited by minizian: Jun 9 2022, 02:11 PM

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bought car in 2019, used 3M coating and tint, whole package 3k since wanted high end tint with 97% IRR. Every year went to re touch coating, spend about RM200, car comes back glossy as ever and smooth to the touch.

can share the series for 3m tint?

3M Platinum package-NRP2, Crystaline series + Color Stables series

thanks...too many different series...kinda confuse

3M only crystaline series can pakai.
others cant pakai

@lkhdungeon Care to share what was your final decision?

This post has been edited by kll71: Dec 25 2023, 02:10 PM

How has your experience with opti coat and can you share where you have this done please.

This post has been edited by kll71: Dec 25 2023, 04:47 PM

off topic. I see your point.

I often laugh when I see people put seat cover on new cars. And when selling their car, let the next owner enjoy the "new" seats.

anyone tried XG coating service before ?
They are offering 10H graphene coating for rm450.

are they reliable ? Thanks

It depends, if the price is ok for you. Why not give it a try? Lots of this kind of service these days is Marketing which then drives positive reviews due to the cost.

I tried "More Details Auto Care" they claim to be 10H Ceramic Coating before CNY 2024 and paid RM299 (SUV +100) with 2 year Warranty. I wasn't there when they applied the Coating, so I am not sure what they use and whether it is really 3 layers. But one thing for sure is I saw those small coating bottles with 10H on them.

Overall, the car looks more or less the same. But it could also be because I did maintain my car with a layer of NuPolish; that's why there's no difference to me. So far did 1 wash after coating.

If compared to Waxing, I feel like, after 1 wash, you still feel like there's a layer of Wax remaining. However, for Ceramic Coating there is but less compared to Wax. Only time will tell. There's no way to test Ceramic Coating without buying those coating thickness meters.

NuPolish last me about 9 months to 1 Year - But spend 4 hours doing it solo
Ceramic Coating - Not sure

So far so good, and i just sold my car. Easy to wash without need to wax ( and my car last time is always park under the hot sun. Opti coat is not that shining compare to ceramic pro, it just that super easy when u wash. I pm u already and sorry for the late reply.


While for my Ceramic Pro gold package ( 7 years warranty), at least in 6 month i need to go recoat and i need wait for weeks for made appointment. At the end i only made appointment during CNY . now they reduce their warranty period already ( from 7 years to 5 years only, perhaps every year ppl need go recoat every year thus no more space for doing new cars?).


Personal opinion- go for ceramic pro if u look for shinning car and got times to go recoat twice or 3 times a year.

Go for opti coat that not that shinning like ceramic pro but car easy to wash without need to wax / polish or recoat for years.

josh 01466998277 --- home base doing, i'm not sure he still doing or not now. I done 2 car under him for opti coat and another at ceramic pro. so i dare to made comparison after car coating of years result. And try google optic coat review around the world


last time when i try to get coating information, most of the people only give the review base on recently coating( of course that the best result) not after years of coating.

Hope it help u guys.

This post has been edited by kokseong23: Jul 11 2024, 12:56 AM