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 Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G

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post Sep 13 2020, 08:39 AM

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car immobilizer, wireless credit card terminal use 2G too. This under M2M
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post Sep 13 2020, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Sep 13 2020, 08:39 AM)

car immobilizer, wireless credit card terminal use 2G too. This under M2M
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many mall e wallet, credit card, food delivery terminal use 2G?
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post Sep 13 2020, 02:51 PM

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I wonder about what kind of G/frequency that emergency number w/o sim uses?
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post Sep 15 2020, 12:28 AM

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I don’t think they should shutdown 3G.3G it now widely use,hopefully rural and village(kampung) got 4G coverage end of next year.Better to leave it as it is then to shutdown 3G
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post Sep 15 2020, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 13 2020, 02:51 PM)
I wonder about what kind of G/frequency that emergency number w/o sim uses?
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Either 2g or 3g would do, they are both circuit switch services

QUOTE(ezekieldavidchong @ Sep 15 2020, 12:28 AM)
I don’t think they should shutdown 3G.3G it now widely use,hopefully rural and village(kampung) got 4G coverage end of next year.Better to leave it as it is then to shutdown 3G
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It depends on operators d. Logically should be replace 3G with 4G instead of just shut the 3G down..

Kampung might have 2G serving them if dun have volte phones / using feature phone.
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post Sep 15 2020, 05:16 PM

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Dear UM,

You may immediately kill ur HSPA spectrum edy...let LTE covers my whole house ya... LOL...

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post Sep 15 2020, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Sep 15 2020, 05:16 PM)
Dear UM,

You may immediately kill ur HSPA spectrum edy...let LTE covers my whole house ya... LOL...

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Bro, your umobile signal Serving Cell at -110 dbm is means you are quite far away from the tower (or some obstruction in the LOS tower ) . Est around 1kM plus distance.
Because I see your RSNR and RSRQ is okay. Ping and jitter is fine.
Not gonna touch about the Bands though.

Same with your OneXOX .

Preferably signal should be around -95dbm (green zone) plus onwards.

Here is my wonderful Maxis. Sort off.
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High RSRQ due to congestion. and the tower is far

P.s - Your Network cell info interface looks abit different than mine. Maybe reacts to different phones. I'm using old Galaxy A5.

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post Sep 15 2020, 06:19 PM

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Me using the Pro version... Urs is Limited Technology version...

The signal kind of bouncing between 2 to full bars lately... dunno maybe got "monkeys" touching the cell towers...LOL...

Later when 3G is shut down, and got "monkeys" vandalizing the cell towers, we all will be using EDGE the whole week ya.... "Segala Kesulitan Amatlah Dikesali"... "sudah terhantuk baru terngadah"....

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post Sep 15 2020, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Sep 15 2020, 08:38 AM)
Either 2g or 3g would do, they are both circuit switch services
It depends on operators d. Logically should be replace 3G with 4G instead of just shut the 3G down..

Kampung might have 2G serving them if dun have volte phones / using feature phone.
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It is logical but not a smart move....if they can replace with 4G then is ok.some place can’t receive a 4G signal H+ is maximum.So if thy shutdown 3G without improving the coverage, we will on 2G and those flexible people that work anywhere/anytime will definite curse if that place has no coverage or 4G.
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Sep 15 2020, 08:38 AM)
Either 2g or 3g would do, they are both circuit switch services
It depends on operators d. Logically should be replace 3G with 4G instead of just shut the 3G down..

Kampung might have 2G serving them if dun have volte phones / using feature phone.
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It is logical but not a smart move....if they can replace with 4G then is ok.some place can’t receive a 4G signal H+ is maximum.So if thy shutdown 3G without improving the coverage, we will on 2G and those flexible people that work anywhere/anytime will definite curse if that place has no coverage or 4G.
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QUOTE(ezekieldavidchong @ Sep 15 2020, 10:10 PM)
It is logical but not a smart move....if they can replace with 4G then is ok.some place can’t receive a 4G signal H+ is maximum.So if thy shutdown 3G without improving the coverage, we will on 2G and those flexible people that work anywhere/anytime will definite curse if that place has no coverage or 4G.
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Agreed. My kampung in Johor can only get 3G. I don't expect the area to have 4G anytime soon. Its so hulu.
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post Sep 16 2020, 01:05 PM

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Don't worry... gomen claimed "ALL" 3G spectrums "WILL" be upgraded to LTE.

After upgraded to LTE, and "WITHOUT" proper testing and verification from independent checkers, gomen "GUARANTEED" that these "UPGRADED" 3G to 4G will be usable in these cell towers.

As we all know how Malaysian "UPGRADING QUALITY" is, these area will be in the philosophy of "Bila Terhantuk, Baru Terngadah".
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habis, kawasan pendalaman yg pake 3G, sekarang mati
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post Sep 16 2020, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Sep 16 2020, 01:05 PM)
Don't worry... gomen claimed "ALL" 3G spectrums "WILL" be upgraded to LTE.

After upgraded to LTE, and "WITHOUT" proper testing and verification from independent checkers, gomen "GUARANTEED" that these "UPGRADED" 3G to 4G will be usable in these cell towers.

As we all know how Malaysian "UPGRADING QUALITY" is, these area will be in the philosophy of "Bila Terhantuk, Baru Terngadah".
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One glaring difference between a 3G and 4G LTE cell tower is that the network coverage or maximum range of 3G or non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS is about 32km while for that of 4G VoLTE voice calls and SMS (plus Internet data) is only 5km(for 800MHz; and only 2km for 2600MHz). From 32km to 5km is a huge difference in terms of coverage for voice calls = more 4G LTE cell towers will be needed to replace one 3G cell tower, especially in suburban, small town and rural areas. For those who mostly make voice calls while travelling outstation and visiting remote stores in rural areas, eg salespersons, the transition from 3G to 4G LTE and 5G will be a problem, ie much less 4G LTE/5G network coverage for VoLTE voice calls.
....... Note that the max range of the slower 3G Internet data is similar to 4G LTE/5G Internet data, depending on the frequency used.

What about 2G.? If 2G is retained when 3G is sunset by MCMC in 2022, then no problem with network coverage for 2G or non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS, but only for those legacy Big 3 celcos who still maintain 2G networks.
....... Latecomer small celcos like U Mobile do not have legacy 2G networks = when 3G is sunset, its subscribers will have to make do with 4G VoLTE voice calls and SMS only, which has much less coverage compared to 3G/2G non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS. The last-comers and newest celcos, YES and TM Unifi Mobile, do not even have their own 3G network, ie they only have 4G LTE networks.
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post Sep 16 2020, 02:04 PM

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Have anybody go back using 2G? The difference is night and day. If not because apps using some form of cache, 2G internet wouldn't even work at all. Also maybe return of the incoming call radio noise I guess since most of my calls still not VOLTE and have to drop to 3G and after cut off, 2G...


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post Sep 16 2020, 02:10 PM

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Don't confuse the purpose of JENDELA is "introduced"...

Data only = LTE.
Voice call & SMS = EDGE.

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post Sep 16 2020, 05:46 PM

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Amek kau... if 3G is shut down and everybody in this mall connected to LTE, habislah network...lucky 3G is still active. Me switch to 3G all the way and happy user for now... later 3G is gone, we all suffers together-gether... LOL...

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 16 2020, 01:46 PM)
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One glaring difference between a 3G and 4G LTE cell tower is that the network coverage or maximum range of 3G or non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS is about 32km while for that of 4G VoLTE voice calls and SMS (plus Internet data) is only 5km(for 800MHz; and only 2km  for 2600MHz). From 32km to 5km is a huge difference in terms of coverage for voice calls = more 4G LTE  cell towers will be needed to replace one 3G cell tower, especially in suburban, small town and rural areas. For those who mostly make voice calls while travelling outstation and visiting remote stores in rural areas, eg salespersons, the transition from 3G to 4G LTE and 5G will be a problem, ie much less 4G LTE/5G network coverage for VoLTE voice calls.
....... Note that the max range of the slower 3G Internet data is similar to 4G LTE/5G Internet data, depending on the frequency used.

What about 2G.? If 2G is retained when 3G is sunset by MCMC in 2022, then no problem with network coverage for 2G or non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS, but only for those legacy Big 3 celcos who still maintain 2G networks.
....... Latecomer small celcos like U Mobile do not have legacy 2G networks = when 3G is sunset, its subscribers will have to make do with 4G VoLTE voice calls and SMS only, which has much less coverage compared to 3G/2G non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS. The last-comers and newest celcos, YES and TM Unifi Mobile, do not even have their own 3G network, ie they only have 4G LTE networks.
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You got any source on that? i wanna read up on it
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Sep 16 2020, 01:46 PM)
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One glaring difference between a 3G and 4G LTE cell tower is that the network coverage or maximum range of 3G or non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS is about 32km while for that of 4G VoLTE voice calls and SMS (plus Internet data) is only 5km(for 800MHz; and only 2km  for 2600MHz). From 32km to 5km is a huge difference in terms of coverage for voice calls = more 4G LTE  cell towers will be needed to replace one 3G cell tower, especially in suburban, small town and rural areas. For those who mostly make voice calls while travelling outstation and visiting remote stores in rural areas, eg salespersons, the transition from 3G to 4G LTE and 5G will be a problem, ie much less 4G LTE/5G network coverage for VoLTE voice calls.
....... Note that the max range of the slower 3G Internet data is similar to 4G LTE/5G Internet data, depending on the frequency used.

What about 2G.? If 2G is retained when 3G is sunset by MCMC in 2022, then no problem with network coverage for 2G or non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS, but only for those legacy Big 3 celcos who still maintain 2G networks.
....... Latecomer small celcos like U Mobile do not have legacy 2G networks = when 3G is sunset, its subscribers will have to make do with 4G VoLTE voice calls and SMS only, which has much less coverage compared to 3G/2G non-VoLTE voice calls and SMS. The last-comers and newest celcos, YES and TM Unifi Mobile, do not even have their own 3G network, ie they only have 4G LTE networks.
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Don't say incorrect information.


32km is achievable on 700mhz and below, without obstacle as well as huge antenna

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Unifi Mobile will stop slaughtering customers.

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