so it time for me to dig up my old sony ericsson handphone...
since only can use edge...
Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G
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Aug 30 2020, 07:11 PM
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Vehicle tracking like Katsana all using 2G.
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Aug 30 2020, 07:12 PM
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Vehicle tracking like Katsana all using 2G.
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Aug 30 2020, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Aug 30 2020, 07:07 PM) so it time for me to dig up my old sony ericsson handphone... just fyi im still using this Huawei 3g+WiFi modem.since only can use edge...  9 years i owned it. though it can support 2g mode i wonder how to survive with Edge data speed. If they do shutdown next year i Will have to put it into retirement. |
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Aug 30 2020, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 30 2020, 07:12 PM) Vehicle tracking like Katsana all using 2G. https://shop.katsana.com/product/covert-gps...acker-for-cars/RM949.00 exc. SST Technical Specification GSM/GPRS features: Quad-band 900/1800 MHz; 850/1900 MHz GPRS Multi-Slot Class 12(up to 240 kbps) GPRS Mobile Station Class B SMS (text/data) budget version GPS tracker https://shopee.com.my/protrackgpstracker power by celcom. No spec https://www.fleetmy.com/personal fleet tracking service backed by Digi Telecommunications Sdn. Bhd. https://ifleet.my/ifleet-gps-tracker-specs This post has been edited by JLA: Aug 30 2020, 10:34 PM |
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Aug 31 2020, 03:13 PM
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Here's a real story: Was queuing to pay via e-Wallet. Suddenly, the line dropped from 4G to H+... Luckily can still pay ... Imagine, line dropped to EDGE, the e-Wallet app cannot even loading leeyyyhhh... LOL... So, before terminating the 3G spectrum, make sure test properly the stability and reliability of LTE loohhh... Jangan suka2 terminate tanpa alasan yg konkrit... MySejahtera app loaded after 60 seconds under EDGE spectrum....LOL  This post has been edited by azhar75: Aug 31 2020, 05:49 PM nexona88 liked this post
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Sep 1 2020, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(jack2001 @ Aug 30 2020, 11:28 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Phasing out 3G is bound to happen eventually, its just that 2021 is too early still(at least for malaysia) Singapore doesnt even have any real plans of shutting down their 3G that soon either. Most of the time congestion is due to a lack of spectrum, not due to back-bone, but i'm not in this industry so i know nothing. sifu prosibu please enlighten us  Yes there are fiber-ed towers, usually at shophouses. Take example of this tower with the microwave backhaul transmitter circled in red: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So i'm not saying you are wrong about wireless spectrum bandwidth either. There are variations to this. And this is one of the possibilities - Microwave backhaul. Now the next question is how each telcos will refarm their 3G spectrum into 4G to improve coverage. Coverage is essential. Followed by speed. Only the network engineers would know. We're just guessing. |
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Sep 2 2020, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Aug 31 2020, 03:13 PM) Here's a real story: yeah, and if we continue to keep 3g, our telcos will never be serious with 4g. right now, 3g is backbone for data and 4g is just a supporting network.Was queuing to pay via e-Wallet. Suddenly, the line dropped from 4G to H+... Luckily can still pay ... Imagine, line dropped to EDGE, the e-Wallet app cannot even loading leeyyyhhh... LOL... So, before terminating the 3G spectrum, make sure test properly the stability and reliability of LTE loohhh... Jangan suka2 terminate tanpa alasan yg konkrit... MySejahtera app loaded after 60 seconds under EDGE spectrum....LOL |
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Sep 2 2020, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Aug 31 2020, 03:13 PM) MySejahtera app loaded after 60 seconds under EDGE spectrum....LOL irrelevantMySejahtera app can work with 0G @ no internet |
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Sep 2 2020, 01:39 PM
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how to call somebody if VOLTE still not available for certain phone?
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Sep 2 2020, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(fms21 @ Sep 2 2020, 01:39 PM) how to call somebody if VOLTE still not available for certain phone? Will drop to 2G |
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Sep 2 2020, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(fms21 @ Sep 2 2020, 01:39 PM) how to call somebody if VOLTE still not available for certain phone? The phone should go down to 2G during calls if no VoLTE. |
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Sep 6 2020, 01:42 PM
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The plan to shutdown 3G is flawed, this dumb government didn't bother to think much of the outcome when coming up with this idea. Yes, 3G is bound to be retired in the future, but 2021 is too early considering the fact that we have too much issues with our network. The biggest problem is not all telcos have proper VoLTE support yet (and don't tell me about Celcom because it's only available for iPhones), imagine having to rely on 2G for voice calls, it will affect the usage and probably even the battery life when our phone suddenly switches to 2G. Another problem is some apps can barely even run on 2G. It's ironic that they encourage people to go cashless and use e wallets but then e wallets will have a hard time loading when running on 2G. This government is dumb and this plan is flawed and that's a fact. spotter02, thales.of.miletus, and 3 others liked this post
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Sep 6 2020, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Sep 6 2020, 01:42 PM) The plan to shutdown 3G is flawed, this dumb government didn't bother to think much of the outcome when coming up with this idea. Agreed, 2G runs on 2100MHz and 900MHz in Malaysia, they should kill 2G and refarm the 2G spectrum to LTE. Hope for the best that VoLTE is implemented or Forced by the Govt to be implemented nationwide before the death of 3G.Yes, 3G is bound to be retired in the future, but 2021 is too early considering the fact that we have too much issues with our network. The biggest problem is not all telcos have proper VoLTE support yet (and don't tell me about Celcom because it's only available for iPhones), imagine having to rely on 2G for voice calls, it will affect the usage and probably even the battery life when our phone suddenly switches to 2G. Another problem is some apps can barely even run on 2G. It's ironic that they encourage people to go cashless and use e wallets but then e wallets will have a hard time loading when running on 2G. This government is dumb and this plan is flawed and that's a fact. judehow liked this post
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Sep 6 2020, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Sep 6 2020, 01:45 PM) Agreed, 2G runs on 2100MHz and 900MHz in Malaysia, they should kill 2G and refarm the 2G spectrum to LTE. Hope for the best that VoLTE is implemented or Forced by the Govt to be implemented nationwide before the death of 3G. Don't think the govt knows what's VoLTE, otherwise they would've force telcos to do so way back then.Digi and U Mobile been having VoLTE for ages now, I just don't get why it would take so many years for Maxis and Celcom to even launch such simple tech to consumers, and now it's not even widely available yet. This post has been edited by xperiaDROID: Sep 6 2020, 03:12 PM |
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Sep 8 2020, 08:07 PM
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xperiaDROID,
If that Kizaru Minister couldn't get his facts right about that Sabahan tree girl what makes one think that he would understand 3g is crucial in some rural or even certain parts of KV whereby 4g signal is weak. Like moonsatelite suggested, should just refarm 2G into 4g. Someone should start a petition against shutting down 3G And leaving 2g turned on. I doubt MCMC did a proper survey on how many users are on 2G |
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Sep 8 2020, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Sep 8 2020, 08:07 PM) xperiaDROID, Removing 3G, remain 2G, - >If that Kizaru Minister couldn't get his facts right about that Sabahan tree girl what makes one think that he would understand 3g is crucial in some rural or even certain parts of KV whereby 4g signal is weak. Like moonsatelite suggested, should just refarm 2G into 4g. Someone should start a petition against shutting down 3G And leaving 2g turned on. I doubt MCMC did a proper survey on how many users are on 2G 2G phone still can be used, 3G phone can use 2g, 4G phone csfb to 2G, m2m services remained 2G coverage confirm wider than 3G? Removing 2G, remain 3G -> 2G phone dead M2M service dead 2G only coverage no coverage Urban 3G cant browsing/watsapps, i din see any difference for removing 2G and removing 3G I think soyacincau has posted the survey that still have many users using feature phone (2G phone) |
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Sep 8 2020, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(tympg @ Sep 2 2020, 02:07 PM) The phone should go down to 2G during calls if no VoLTE. Many will think csfb only applicable to 3g... Or they tot 2G will be shutdown too... QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Sep 6 2020, 01:42 PM) The plan to shutdown 3G is flawed, this dumb government didn't bother to think much of the outcome when coming up with this idea. So far 3G is not usable for me except volte call drop to 3GYes, 3G is bound to be retired in the future, but 2021 is too early considering the fact that we have too much issues with our network. The biggest problem is not all telcos have proper VoLTE support yet (and don't tell me about Celcom because it's only available for iPhones), imagine having to rely on 2G for voice calls, it will affect the usage and probably even the battery life when our phone suddenly switches to 2G. Another problem is some apps can barely even run on 2G. It's ironic that they encourage people to go cashless and use e wallets but then e wallets will have a hard time loading when running on 2G. This government is dumb and this plan is flawed and that's a fact. QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Sep 6 2020, 01:45 PM) Agreed, 2G runs on 2100MHz and 900MHz in Malaysia, they should kill 2G and refarm the 2G spectrum to LTE. Hope for the best that VoLTE is implemented or Forced by the Govt to be implemented nationwide before the death of 3G. 2100mhz only for 3G and 4G at the moment. And most of the phone doesn't support 2100mhz GSM.UMobile use all 2100mhz for 4G (15mhz) Digi/maxis/celcom. 3G(5mhz)4G (10mhz) 900mhz is the premium spectrum as can be used for 2345G and iot. Digi uses it as 4G, UM use it as 3G(will go 4G for sure in 2022) Celcom and maxis use them as mixture of 234G and iot due to having large spectrum bandwidth (10mhz) From here u can see that there is barely spectrum available for 2G as there are technology to balance the 1800mhz spectrum for 24G. Meaning, if there is no 2G users, the spectrum will be reallocated to 4G. Same goes to opposite way. Hence, removal of 3G is a good choice in this situation. |
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Sep 8 2020, 08:52 PM
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Many still using 3G only devices. After 3G gone, these devices will connect at 2G. 4G will have major improvement though.
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Sep 9 2020, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 8 2020, 08:52 PM) Many still using 3G only devices. After 3G gone, these devices will connect at 2G. 4G will have major improvement though. Where got 3G only devices ? as far as i know 3G devices have GSM support. |
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