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 Malaysia Shut Down 3G Network By The End of TBA, Long life 2G

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post Sep 9 2020, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Sep 9 2020, 08:00 AM)
Where got 3G only devices ? as far as i know 3G devices have GSM support.
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Phones before 4G are mostly HSPDA only devices. I have plenty of such devices at home from PCMCIA cards to mobile hotspot. Still usable for backup. Some older laptops also shipped with a 3G modem inside. My old ThinkPad X61T for example. Still works but at 3G speeds.

Without 3G later, these devices will connect at EDGE speeds which is terribly slow.
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post Sep 9 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(azhar75 @ Aug 29 2020, 09:39 PM)
Kaya rupa-rupanya Mesia nih... Banyak duit kita nak upgrade sana-sini...

So, kalu tarak 4G, kenalah guna 2G yer....?

Me think this news is still under "inception".... In the end, will be postponed until further notice... or the most popular "budaya" is U-turn...LOL...

#5G_is_fake
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Why not they give 3g bette, r shut down 2 g completely haih 4g take alot battery
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post Sep 9 2020, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(judehow @ Sep 9 2020, 11:12 AM)
Why not they give 3g bette,  r shut down 2 g  completely  haih 4g take alot battery
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Because if shut down 2G, later those ppl who still using Nokia button phone will go MCMC throw egg...
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post Sep 9 2020, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(judehow @ Sep 9 2020, 11:12 AM)
Why not they give 3g bette,  r shut down 2 g  completely  haih 4g take alot battery
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Judehow non stop say 4G drain battery
Better buy no 4G phone
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post Sep 9 2020, 07:19 PM

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IMO shutting down 3g in 2021 is just too soon, when 4g doesn't get fixed and they want to shutdown 3g... thats a lack of foresight here.

And 4g/2g can be used in a MSR mode as demonstrated in taiwan (in chinese):
https://chinese.engadget.com/chinese-2017-0...-2g-900mhz.html
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post Sep 9 2020, 07:26 PM

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And regards to convert 3g towers to 4g towers, you have to consider adding the current bulk of 3g users and current 4g users in these new 4g towers, and then...

Network congestion again? doh.gif
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post Sep 9 2020, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 9 2020, 08:20 AM)
Phones before 4G are mostly HSPDA only devices. I have plenty of such devices at home from PCMCIA cards to mobile hotspot. Still usable for backup. Some older laptops also shipped with a 3G modem inside. My old ThinkPad X61T for example. Still works but at 3G speeds.

Without 3G later, these devices will connect at EDGE speeds which is terribly slow.
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Already say in previous post, 3G is unusable now at most of the area, and there must be some stats that 2g only devices are way more than 3g only devices at the moment.



QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 9 2020, 07:19 PM)
IMO shutting down 3g in 2021 is just too soon, when 4g doesn't get fixed and they want to shutdown 3g... thats a lack of foresight here.

And 4g/2g can be used in a MSR mode as demonstrated in taiwan (in chinese):
https://chinese.engadget.com/chinese-2017-0...-2g-900mhz.html
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Mentioned this already in previous post, that is why the 2G is still exist today. Go search dss at zte web, im sure huawei also have such tech

QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 9 2020, 07:26 PM)
And regards to convert 3g towers to 4g towers, you have to consider adding the current bulk of 3g users and current 4g users in these new 4g towers, and then...

Network congestion again? doh.gif
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3g barely can use for watsapp, let along browsing/utube.
Give way to 4G is the only way.
Nowadays 2G using less/spectrum compared to 3G as mentioned by surrodox

Also, please please remember
2G = 0.2mhz = ??
3G = 5mhz = 21mbps , (21mbps per 5mhz block)
DC-H+ = 10mhz = 42mbps
4G = 20mhz = 150mbps ( around 33mbps per 5mhz block)
5G = 100mhz = 1gbps (around 50mbps per 5mhz block)

U can c that 3G migration to 4G will not have same congestion issue but 50% more capacity (21mbps -> 33mbps)
Forget about DC HSPA. Most of the telco ad left 5mhz 3G.
That is the main reason y 3G is slower n slower nowadays.
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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 9 2020, 07:19 PM)
IMO shutting down 3g in 2021 is just too soon, when 4g doesn't get fixed and they want to shutdown 3g... thats a lack of foresight here.

And 4g/2g can be used in a MSR mode as demonstrated in taiwan (in chinese):
https://chinese.engadget.com/chinese-2017-0...-2g-900mhz.html
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In Malaysia we are already doing that, 2G&4G for 900Mhz & 3G&4G for 2100Mhz.
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post Sep 9 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 9 2020, 07:26 PM)
And regards to convert 3g towers to 4g towers, you have to consider adding the current bulk of 3g users and current 4g users in these new 4g towers, and then...

Network congestion again? doh.gif
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Celcom and digi using 1800/900mhz spectrum for 2G. some congested area 1800mhz 2G radio change to 4G,

Telco already turn off half 2100mhz 3G block for 4G at some congested area.




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post Sep 9 2020, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Sep 9 2020, 08:16 PM)
Already say in previous post, 3G is unusable now at most of the area, and there must be some stats that 2g only devices are way more than 3g only devices at the moment.

3g  barely can use for watsapp, let along browsing/utube.
Now i'm posting on 3g and I can get good speeds, definitely usable for youtube/browsing...
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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 9 2020, 10:23 PM)
Now i'm posting on 3g and I can get good speeds, definitely usable for youtube/browsing...
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Lolx, that is y i written most of the place.
If ur 3G coverage replaced by 4G, y not?
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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Sep 9 2020, 05:01 PM)
Because if shut down 2G, later those ppl who still using Nokia button phone will go MCMC throw egg...
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Lol should not off 3 g also later trow bigger eggs😄

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post Sep 11 2020, 08:34 AM

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3G vs 4G same device same location
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QUOTE(judehow @ Sep 10 2020, 01:29 PM)
Lol should not off 3 g also later trow bigger eggs😄
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The best way, OFF 2G and 3G sekali.. laugh.gif

Old folk ppl and teenagers will bring eggs and "bowling" ball throw to MCMC..
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post Sep 11 2020, 10:28 AM

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Then i need use mamak wifi lo
On my working location, umobile indoor signal strength mostly -105 to -110dBm on 4G
In 3G, around -85 to -95dBm
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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Sep 11 2020, 09:45 AM)
The best way, OFF 2G and 3G sekali.. laugh.gif

Old folk ppl and teenagers will bring eggs and "bowling" ball throw to MCMC..
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See what happend later
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post Sep 11 2020, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Sep 9 2020, 10:23 PM)
Now i'm posting on 3g and I can get good speeds, definitely usable for youtube/browsing...
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Same here. Still using 3g .
However it's unfortunate my area is getting up to only 2Mbps on the old 3G modem , where it can get 5mbps+ in some areas). Already reported to Digi for this matter.
My guess maybe the 3g tower still on Streamyx backhaul.

Still able to stream Viu smoothly and YouTube 360p.
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Sep 11 2020, 10:26 PM)
Same here. Still using 3g .
However it's unfortunate my area is getting up to only 2Mbps on the old 3G modem , where it can get 5mbps+ in some areas). Already reported to Digi for this matter.
My guess maybe the 3g tower still on Streamyx backhaul.

Still able to stream Viu smoothly and YouTube 360p.
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Well it depends on telco perhaps...

My umobile at home is quite slow in 3g, much better in 4g.
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post Sep 12 2020, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Sep 11 2020, 08:34 AM)
3G vs 4G same device same location
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From my Huawei 3g modem. HSPA 7.2mbps rated.
Also Digi.
Location: Genting

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post Sep 12 2020, 04:55 PM

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2G they should shut I down not 3G
Talk about 5G,village and rural areas only have 3G connection.
If you want to shutdown 3G 2 options only
1.4G must be covered in rural/village areas
2forget about it (shutdown 3G)

This post has been edited by ezekieldavidchong: Sep 12 2020, 04:55 PM

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