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post Feb 7 2021, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 6 2021, 06:11 PM)
Ahh then it is on your responsibility to fix already.
The more futureproof solution is to hack off all the tiles and redo waterproofing layer and retile (if its leaking from the tiles area).
If its leaking from the WC drain pipe outline (got gap between the drain hole and the drain pipe) then its a smaller fix.

The temp fixes like PU injection or simply redo grout doesn't solve the root cause that allow water to seep in through the untreated floor slab. Then MO or neighbour will ding dong ur doorbell again to complain.
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Yeah. PU injection is definitely a short term solution. In the apartment I stayed last time, problem reoccured after 8-9 months of injection, then inject again, then happened again and again.

In my current house, developer do injection as solution and in most houses, problem reoccured again after 6-7 months. My unit, I insist them redo the whole waterproofing. The original waterproofing was so bad, both my toilets upstairs leaked sweat.gif

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post Feb 7 2021, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 27 2021, 09:59 PM)
I'm not sure why. Only after 1 month staying in new house (just developed), the bathroom white grout changed color to grey cement color? Not sure if developer took shortcuts with cheap materials.

Want to re-grout the bathroom now. Between these 2, which is better to buy?
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The 2nd one is definitely not amateur friendly. I tried to top up some missing grout in my kitchen and it took me few hours to complete a small section using powdered grout sweat.gif

The first one seems more user friendly. Alternatively, you might consider Mapei Fuga Fresca (which is like school shoe’s chalk in old days) or Mapei Grout Refresh (might not be available in Malaysia and have to buy from Amazon).
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post Feb 7 2021, 02:23 AM

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whether some nano material. such as Surfapore C. can effectively do the waterproof without hacking the tiles?
Has anyone tried company Nano-G water proof method?
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post Feb 8 2021, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 6 2021, 06:11 PM)
Ahh then it is on your responsibility to fix already.
The more futureproof solution is to hack off all the tiles and redo waterproofing layer and retile (if its leaking from the tiles area).
If its leaking from the WC drain pipe outline (got gap between the drain hole and the drain pipe) then its a smaller fix.

The temp fixes like PU injection or simply redo grout doesn't solve the root cause that allow water to seep in through the untreated floor slab. Then MO or neighbour will ding dong ur doorbell again to complain.
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hmm alright, MO say will send specialist to check first after MCO.
the weird part is the leak is on the other side of the wall instead of directly below the toilet tiles.
the layout is like this, behind the living room wall is the toilet, so now the wall that become yellowish is the living room part of the wall not the toilet part of the wall.
im guessing this is more like internal pipe leaking instead of fail waterproofing from the tiles

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post Feb 8 2021, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Feb 8 2021, 08:51 AM)
hmm alright, MO say will send specialist to check first after MCO.
the weird part is the leak is on the other side of the wall instead of directly below the toilet tiles.
the layout is like this, behind the living room wall is the toilet, so now the wall that become yellowish is the living room part of the wall not the toilet part of the wall.
im guessing this is more like internal pipe leaking instead of fail waterproofing from the tiles
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I face this problem too, not water pipe leak because water bill is low..
It seeps through the wall over time because grout lines not good + waterproofing cement layer of bathroom tiles failed.

[Toilet) (Tiles) (Wall) (bedroom paint ° ° °) (Bedroom)

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If the position is higher than the tiles (if you are half height tiled) it could be pipe leak in your case. Or aircon pipe leak?

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post Feb 9 2021, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(new_territory @ Feb 7 2021, 02:23 AM)
whether some nano material. such as  Surfapore C. can effectively do the waterproof without hacking the tiles?
Has anyone tried company Nano-G water proof method?
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Definitely no and is only a temporary solution, it is also only a marketing gimmick. Be it the N brand or other repellent in the market, they are just water repellent and still back to the main question - is the root cause being solved? If no, then you have your answer to your question already.
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post Feb 12 2021, 08:59 AM

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Hi, would like to seek opinion / experience from lowyat members.

Recently I noticed that my water meter reading has been running though there is no water usage at home and I have off the tap to tank.

Likely it's due to underground pipe leakage. Is re-piping the only solution?

Thanks
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QUOTE(ljchiun @ Feb 12 2021, 08:59 AM)
Hi, would like to seek opinion / experience from lowyat members.

Recently I noticed that my water meter reading has been running though there is no water usage at home and I have off the tap to tank.

Likely it's due to underground pipe leakage. Is re-piping the only solution?

Thanks
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Excessive water usage, leak or otherwise gets exponentially more expensive after the first 35m3. It would depend on the leakage amount and/or current bill amount now.
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QUOTE(ljchiun @ Feb 12 2021, 08:59 AM)
Hi, would like to seek opinion / experience from lowyat members.

Recently I noticed that my water meter reading has been running though there is no water usage at home and I have off the tap to tank.

Likely it's due to underground pipe leakage. Is re-piping the only solution?

Thanks
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Do by-pass piping...all the pipes expose outside.
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post Feb 18 2021, 07:47 PM

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I have paint peeling and a crumbling on an nterior wall, the other side of the wall is the exterior wall. I'm assuming it is water seeping from rain.
And another problem, the wall behind the ensuite toilet is also having the same paint peeling problem.
We have done the treatment (can't say what it was) once but it is now back.
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post Feb 19 2021, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Feb 18 2021, 07:47 PM)
I have paint peeling and a crumbling on an nterior wall, the other side of the wall is the exterior wall. I'm assuming it is water seeping from rain.
And another problem,  the wall behind the ensuite toilet is also having the same paint peeling problem.
We have done the treatment (can't say what it was) once but it is now back.
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Then it could be small cracks on the exterior wall that lets the water seep into it or it could be water pipe inside that is leaking.
Check to see if there is water pipe routing in that wall or not.

If really got water pipe, then no choice, hacking the wall and repair the leaky pipe or do by-pass altogether.

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Photos are condition of the unit below after 3 months. The specialist send by management say need hack wall to check isit piping issue or not but my specialist said confirm not piping issue but is my tiles waterproofing failing.

He suggest doing water grouting rather than spending tons of money to hack tiles to redo waterproofing for a newly owned house.

He giving one year guarantee on the water grouting.

Is water grouting gonna solve this issue?

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post Mar 19 2021, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Mar 18 2021, 06:48 PM)
Photos are condition of the unit below after 3 months. The specialist send by management say need hack wall to check isit piping issue or not but my specialist said confirm not piping issue but is my tiles waterproofing failing.

He suggest doing water grouting rather than spending tons of money to hack tiles to redo waterproofing for a newly owned house.

He giving one year guarantee on the water grouting.

Is water grouting gonna solve this issue?

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Hack is the way to go...
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post Mar 19 2021, 10:15 PM


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QUOTE(chinti @ Mar 18 2021, 06:48 PM)
Photos are condition of the unit below after 3 months. The specialist send by management say need hack wall to check isit piping issue or not but my specialist said confirm not piping issue but is my tiles waterproofing failing.

He suggest doing water grouting rather than spending tons of money to hack tiles to redo waterproofing for a newly owned house.

He giving one year guarantee on the water grouting.

Is water grouting gonna solve this issue?

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What’s above? What room? The floor get wet due to rain splash in?

And the curtain there , means it is window?

I would suspect the window unit above and below first for any leaks through the window frame.

No point waterproofing non bathroom area. For non bathroom area just make sure the floor is not wet. Moping is ok as the water dries fast

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Hi my master bedroom having water leakage to downstair.
Total area is around 3.5m2

Downstair Master Bathroom
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My Master Bathroom
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Need suggestion does those Shoppe Grout/Tile seal able to work?
My another bathroom, contractor fix with 1.3K, which they also told me using kind of coating.

So I thinking any DIY solutions? I dont mind do it slowly as having 2nd bathroom and stop using master bathroom for a while.
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Mar 31 2021, 09:28 PM)
Hi my master bedroom having water leakage to downstair.
Total area is around 3.5m2

Downstair Master Bathroom
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


My Master Bathroom
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Need suggestion does those Shoppe Grout/Tile seal able to work?
My another bathroom, contractor fix with 1.3K, which they also told me using kind of coating.

So I thinking any DIY solutions? I dont mind do it slowly as having 2nd bathroom and stop using master bathroom for a while.
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Ewwww...so gross. Some more is inside bathroom.
Maybe time to demolish the upstairs bathroom floor and re-do waterproofing.
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Mar 31 2021, 09:28 PM)
Hi my master bedroom having water leakage to downstair.
Total area is around 3.5m2

Downstair Master Bathroom
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


My Master Bathroom
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Need suggestion does those Shoppe Grout/Tile seal able to work?
My another bathroom, contractor fix with 1.3K, which they also told me using kind of coating.

So I thinking any DIY solutions? I dont mind do it slowly as having 2nd bathroom and stop using master bathroom for a while.
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diy?

seal the floor trap with plasticin. buy the solution on your own and flood the floor with it. something like pye waterpruf sealer is cheap. let it sit for a day and drain any excess solution. then let it dry on its own. total time from start to dry will take a few days. and it will smell quite strong. so make sure the door can be closed to lessen the smell spread to other area.

total cost of all the materials should be less than rm 150.

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 2 2021, 03:36 PM)
diy?

seal the floor trap with plasticin. buy the solution on your own and flood the floor with it.  something like pye waterpruf sealer is cheap. let it sit for a day and drain any excess solution. then let it dry on its own. total time from start to dry will take a few days. and it will smell quite strong. so make sure the door can be closed to lessen the smell spread to other area.

total cost of all the materials should be less than rm 150.
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PYE better or UFIXX?
https://shopee.com.my/PYE-Waterpruf-Sealer-...0051.3749008914
https://shopee.com.my/UFIXX-1L-No-Leak-Grou...9461.6132039710
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Apr 3 2021, 07:54 PM)
no idea about ufixx.

i used pye before personally.....still no leak after a few years.
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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 3 2021, 10:05 PM)
no idea about ufixx.

i used pye before personally.....still no leak after a few years.
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Thanks, I'll give a try
you using how many bottle for your bathroom (size?)

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