Yes , anything goes , which means the all the top fighters have already use what is workable and have discarded arts which do not work in a anything goes situation.

Like I say show me a top MMA fighter who trains Akido seriously ?

real MMA is not just mixing anything , all the useless crap has been tried tested and discarded.

Right. not going to go down this path of what is useless or what's not. Somehow martial arts talks always degrade into these sort of things.

I never dissed MMA nor intended to and apologize if that's what it seemed I was doing. Average.joe mentioned the advantages and drawbacks of a broad based approach to things and I just wanted some further illustration on that, not a competition or challenge as to what works or not. As MMA is everything combined all grappling, striking and kicking and what not, it is a broad based martial art and yes it can be said that it combines the best elements of other martial arts.

But that being said, I am sure the Tokyo police don't train their riot police in Yoshinkan Aikido to get beaten up and no i'm not even from Yoshinkan Aikido. Different emphasis, I'm not really out there to be the most unbeatable fighter. I'm out there to learn a self defense martial art that doesn't necessarily involve maiming the person in a modern world of legal suits and something I can use well into my old age. The philosophy of non resistance and harmony appeals to my character as well.

surehit: Thanks for the suggestion, do you know of any place in Kuching that does this? I would be interested in seeing how it turns out.

This post has been edited by Reuben: Aug 6 2008, 06:29 PM

I also not here for upgrade or degrade or whatever but just putting down my experience and what has been shown on thousands of hours of MMA competition.

Just cause it is MMA don't mean it need to be overbroad , sure some of the top guys are : like Fedor , GSP etc but many have a base and then make sure they can hang in the other ranges till they can bring their best weapons to bear: see Crocop , Nogeira , Randy .

Tokyo does not = Msia , Japan = the most civilised country in the world , the police there could prolly learn origami and still be do OK.

In this country , you may well need to incapacitate your enemy in order to get away , unless you think a slap will suffice for a gang of 15 rampits who want to kick the shit out of you ?

Why can't you use MMA way into old age ?

hey you all.....

know why mma dont have at Malaysia?and why Malaysian Muay Thai fighter dont compete at internation level??

No sufficient stamina? no support from government?

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This post has been edited by joannelim83: Aug 7 2008, 01:45 PM

There should be a domestic MMA competition 1st off .

I'll definitely join.

Hi Reuben,

With due respect to Aikido and all the other martial arts, I have to say 2HK is right. MMA is NOT about "broad-based approach". In fact, for lack of a better word, MMA can be an "martial art" by itself, easily identifiable by it's common striking, kicking, clinching (mostly Muay Thai based) and grappling (mostly BJJ based) techniques.

If you are looking to experiment and try this, try that, then it is not MMA imo.

Also, like 2HK said, most of the lower percentage techniques have already been filtered out in MMA, whether through evolution or by trials and errors during MMA fights.

Here are more blogs of individuals (all M'sians) from Aikido, TKD, Karate etc who have ventured in MMA or BJJ:

http://durianbelacan.blogspot.com/2008/07/...n-thinking.html (Aikido)

http://subject2changes.blogspot.com/2007/1...artial-art.html (TKD)

http://wannaroll.blogspot.com/ (Karate)

http://mma-rules.blogspot.com (Karate)

http://betweenheavenandthemat.blogspot.com/ (Judo)

So you see, there are plenty of inviduals who found their passion in MMA, and of course some who tried and gave up. Bottom line, it's for YOU to find out.

I know a gym in Sabah, but not Kuching. I'll try to ask around for you. KL is still d place where you have the most choices. All the best.

You left out out wrestling a very important part of MMA.

Most " mma " gyms or who proclaim themselves as such in KL are sh1t .

But what we really need is a competition , find out who's who and what's what.

This post has been edited by 2HK: Aug 9 2008, 05:08 AM

These guys do MMA too. But they're based in JB:

http://www.ultimategym.blogspot.com/

Ya, agreed, Western Wrestling, Greco-Roman, Sambo, Judo left great influence on many MMA fighters. Was just giving simple illustrations to Rueben.

Nway, why you said most gyms in KL are sh1t? U been to all of them? Perhaps you can share your experience here. I train in KDTA, not sure you know them?

BTW, not everyone who trains MMA wants to compete. Like any arts, some people do it just as a "hobby".

Ya, I always wonder about that myself. Do you know why? I thought we do have some Muay Thai fighters up north in Kelantan and Kedah. Adam Kayoom, the current WPMF World Muay Thai champ used to train and teach in my gym, but mainly on BJJ (he's a brown belt).

okay,

They learn 2 aliran/stream of silat,one PSSGM-Persatuan Silat Seni Gayong Malaysia(the one shown at Discovery) and PSGFM-Persatuan Silat Seni Gayung Fatani Malaysia

That's Freestyle not Western wrestling.

Judo is not that good for MMA , too reliant on clothing , limited number of techniques applicable to MMA.





Uh ha ha .

Yes I have and that is the main one I refer to. If you are truly interested PM me and I'll tell you my experience.

Hi any female martial art or Taekwondo lover?

Hi,

Use to have several here. But dunno where they are now.

Welcome to LYN anyway!

hey guys just wondering
is the aikido dojo still at jalan gasing?
has it move to another place?

I quite disagree with your comment though... No doubt Judo is unable to kick or punch... but take downs or throwing is still Judo's area... No offense to other Martial Arts... and Judo is not necessarily reliant on its clothing... there are many techniques which can be use on the street... reliant on the clothing is only part of the rules that one has to follow during the tournament... maybe there is a misunderstanding?

Hi...thx for d welcome...

Gi are meant to facilitate the learning of techniques. However, the transition from a gi to a non-gi movement is relatively easy if a person grasps the concept of the technique.

The training and learning of a technique from a non-gi practioner is more difficult than a gi to a non-gi practioner.

Therefore, such a sweeping statement of the uselessness of a particular martial art is uncalled for.
The more a person learns of arts, more he/she knows of how little he/she knew.

where are u training currently?

LOL @ those Judo fans who don't even know anything about Freestyle or Greco.

There are very few MMAers who use Judo but nearly all use Wrestling.

So tell me which techniques from Judo is better than wrestling for MMA ?