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rjc.rj
post Aug 24 2021, 05:38 PM

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hi all the sifus out there, can apple homekit and xiaomi home work together
for eg.
aqara smart switch > aqara hub > apple homekit and aqara app be linked together.
as not everyone at home is using apple product thanks
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post Aug 24 2021, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(rjc.rj @ Aug 24 2021, 05:38 PM)
hi all the sifus out there, can apple homekit and xiaomi home work together
for eg.
aqara smart switch > aqara hub > apple homekit and aqara app be linked together.
as not everyone at home is using apple product thanks
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Aqara hub is dual mode hub, it can be managed by homekit and aqara app, but only aqara app able to add/delete zigbee devices

For non apple user, they can use aqara app to control everything

For apple user, they can either use homekit or aqara app




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post Sep 19 2021, 06:26 PM

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Hi all smart home user, does anyone experience smart switch spoil within a year? House is vacant for quite awhile. I install all my switch with Terncy(neutral version). Now there is 8 smart switch spoiled.Does anyone have any experience with Terncy smart switch(neutral)?
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post Oct 16 2021, 08:11 PM

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Hi, read the article, very informative and thanks for taking time to write on this topic.

I need some help since I'm planning to demolish my house and rebuilt it from 2 to 3 storey. Its just a corner terrace house. I am not so savvy on programming and don’t have time to tinker with hardware. I also have parents who are not so tech savvy.

So, my question is this,

1. since its a demolish and rebuild, should i wire the house ( like for normal wiring of houses) and then install the switches or just plan from beginning as a smart house design

2. I'm looking at Lutron system (not decided), planning to have a look at their showroom at Kelana Jaya. This appears to out of the box setup from what the sales person is saying and they will help set it up.

3. I see lots of contractor not keen to have this and always have something negative to say about HA and smart home. Your opinion?


Please help me decide on the above matters, please also feel free to comment any other things that i have misses.

Thanks a lot for the input. smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2021, 12:27 AM

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Any Sifu using Philips Hue white ambiance downlight 6”?

https://www.philips-hue.com/en-my/p/hue-whi...light/5110831H5

The official website states that the 6” is 10.5W, but the Shopee LazMall listing https://shopee.com.my/product/225126980/343...22-1634488011.9 shows the 6” is 9.0W. Are they the same thing or no?
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post Oct 22 2021, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Westwood @ Oct 16 2021, 08:11 PM)
Hi, read the article, very informative and thanks for taking time to write on this topic.

I need some help since I'm planning to demolish my house and rebuilt it from 2 to 3 storey. Its just a corner terrace house. I am not so savvy on programming  and don’t have time to tinker with hardware. I also have parents who are not so tech savvy.

So, my question is this,

1. since its a demolish and rebuild, should i wire the house ( like for normal wiring of houses) and then install the switches or just plan from beginning as a smart house design

2. I'm looking at Lutron system (not decided), planning to have a look at their showroom at Kelana Jaya. This appears to out of the box setup from what the sales person is saying and they will help set it up.

3. I see lots of contractor not keen to have this and always have something negative to say about HA and smart home. Your opinion?
Please help me decide on the above matters, please also feel free to comment any other things that i have misses.

Thanks a lot for the input. smile.gif
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I think at the end of the day still only 1 thing matters - budget.

If you have tons of money, just build the house as you like it then install a full smart home system that can control everything from 1 iPad like Crestron.

If no budget then only have to think which is better for you. So, if you can include your budget, probably easier to give suggestions. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 24 2021, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Westwood @ Oct 16 2021, 08:11 PM)
Hi, read the article, very informative and thanks for taking time to write on this topic.

I need some help since I'm planning to demolish my house and rebuilt it from 2 to 3 storey. Its just a corner terrace house. I am not so savvy on programming  and don’t have time to tinker with hardware. I also have parents who are not so tech savvy.

So, my question is this,

1. since its a demolish and rebuild, should i wire the house ( like for normal wiring of houses) and then install the switches or just plan from beginning as a smart house design

2. I'm looking at Lutron system (not decided), planning to have a look at their showroom at Kelana Jaya. This appears to out of the box setup from what the sales person is saying and they will help set it up.

3. I see lots of contractor not keen to have this and always have something negative to say about HA and smart home. Your opinion?
Please help me decide on the above matters, please also feel free to comment any other things that i have misses.

Thanks a lot for the input. smile.gif
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A "smart home" is not much different from a "normal home". Since you are re-building or renovating, a few things you can do to get your house a bit more "smart-ready".

1. Add neutral wire to every single point
2. Plan your ethernet ports properly, so that all your mesh router can be connected via ethernet cables, you can also kinda future proof your house by using better ethernet cables like cat 6, 7 or well if you have budget, 8? Anything other than the good old 5e will do
3. Add more power points, i cannot stress this enough

that's all. really.

Most of the smart "devices" are mostly wireless, like sensors, even alarm system can be fully wireless, so not much cables involved. Additional things you can consider:

- position of your router and smart home hub, again, you need to ensure ethernet cable as much as possible, also power points, you cannot underestimate number of power points you need to connect all those hubs, devices, and stuff.
- touching on previous point, the position, it will kinda make sense to have everything in your store room, your fibre point is most probably there, plus ample room for storage, so by right it should make sense right? just that on long run, when communicating with wireless devices, esp thru protocol like zwave, zigbee, blutooth, they all have limited range, plus, further limited by number of walls they need to penetrate, having the hub and server in store room means you have to penetrate the store room walls.
- Find a hub or system or ecosystem whatever your call that, that can support all if not most of the devices you gonna use, it's extremely painful to have 2000000 apps to control everything in your house, oh you wanna start the vacumm? let me open xiaomi app, oh you wanna turn on lights? let me use xxx app... and so on
- Visualize your ideal smart home, this is very tricky because a lot of people are just not familiar with the term "smart home", and there's a lot of videos out there introducing their view of smart home, a lot of these example, looks good on their demo video, but does it really make sense in real life? Most probably not. A simple example, turn on living room lights when you open door... on first glance like cool right? return home no need to turn on lights, but what if you family off most lights to enjoy netflix, then you open door, bang! lights! lights! lights! thanks for ruining the mood, not to mention if you wife taking a nap and you just awoken a tiger. good luck.

For me, before i start everything, my goal is simple:
1. since im a long time iphone user, so i wish more devices to work with homekit and siri.
2. i have programming background, so i m mostly ok to DIY
3. related to point 2, i want total control over my automation, i need the ability to configure more complex automation conditions and reactions so i can customized fully to my family's usage habit
4. most devices should be "local" as much as possible, i hate the lag time waiting for response from oversea servers, and our internet is not the best
5. everything should function without smart home, supposed i remove all smart hub and stuff, my lights still have to be able to turn on
5. my order of automation type: sensor triggered > voice control > app control > manual control. Best automation to me is it just happen without you doing anything to control, 2nd is voice control, tbh voice control can be tricky, because not all the time the machine understand what you want, and there's a noticeable lag between voice command and action, you always wonder, is it successful? or will siri reply, "i dont know...", 3rd is finding the app and open the app, wait for it to load, sometime they will kick you out of the login sessions, so you need to login again, then load again, then control what you want, then wait for result. Last of coz is manual control, no need to explain.

so consolidate all my requirements and research, home assistant is what im looking for, and im really kinda enjoying most of my automation now. so when you decide on the main system, first decide what is your requirements and goals first.

Your point #3, contractor not keen, my personal guess is that it's out of their scope, they know nth about smart home, new tech and etc, and mostly, they are just not willing to pick up new knowledge, especially now that it's still not the common trend yet, be it lazy or stubborn or even ego problem. working with things they dont know, 1 they need more time to learn / try, 2 they are responsible for something new, and if anything done wrong, they are responsible, 3, waste time waste energy, just wanna complete 1 project move to another

This post has been edited by hungrygodzilla: Oct 24 2021, 02:45 PM
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post Oct 25 2021, 12:32 PM

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I'd say provisioning power sockets at your windows is one of the bigger smart home specific things (that normal houses won't have) you can do when renovating your home.

Another in the bathroom if you find smart mirrors useful.
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post Nov 4 2021, 09:24 PM

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Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I agree with you that more research needs to be done from my side, looking at the pros and cons along with the budget.
About the plug points -- totally agree with the number of points needed.

Really appreciate your time and input. Will print this out as my notes to make sure i don’t miss out any points.

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Hi i was about to renovate my house and am looking to integrate smart home during the renovation process.

With your sharing above it seems that Terncy has more advantage, like 5ghz connectin, non-region lock devices (which i would not want my devices to be region locked). May I confirm with you that if i bought terncy devices directly from taobao, and it can be paired together with those i bought from local, Malaysia right? Shopee's Terncy shop seems to be inactive for more than a month and I have left no other choice but to get from taobao.

On the other hand, why dont you get Terncy smart door lock as they are selling it on taobao?
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post May 29 2022, 12:58 AM

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Very informative post, thanks to TS and those who have been contributing.

I have gotten myself the Terncy Switch Module and hoping to install it to operate the autogate.

I am using DC Moto's and attached are the relevant information.
Attached File  ac12.pdf ( 291.27k ) Number of downloads: 23

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I do not use a physical switch to open up by autogate currently and only uses the remote controls provided.

Can you guide me on how I can install it? I intend to install the switch module in the autogate control box. Would this work?
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post Jul 20 2022, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ May 29 2022, 12:58 AM)
Very informative post, thanks to TS and those who have been contributing.

I have gotten myself the Terncy Switch Module and hoping to install it to operate the autogate.

I am using DC Moto's and attached are the relevant information.
Attached File  ac12.pdf ( 291.27k ) Number of downloads: 23

Attached Image

I do not use a physical switch to open up by autogate currently and only uses the remote controls provided.

Can you guide me on how I can install it? I intend to install the switch module in the autogate control box. Would this work?
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Hi guys, anyone can provide me some guidance?
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post Aug 21 2022, 09:17 AM

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Has anyone installed IMT autogates? In addition to traditional remote control operations, it also allows using Apps to control the gates? Appreciate your experience sharing. Thank you.
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post Sep 6 2024, 05:58 PM

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I engaged a smart home contractor who gave me faulty items and a work in progress app.

Now they are already out of business. Is there any good contractors to recommend to fix and take over the project?

Tuya based.

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