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joshhd
post Sep 25 2024, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 25 2024, 02:37 PM)
This TnG Visa…can it be added into Apple Pay?

If yes can cancel the card and avoid paying annual fee?
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Nope. TnG Visa card doesn't support Apple Pay, Samsung Pay and Google Wallet at the moment.

You'll be getting a physical card which will be shipped to your address.
Do note that apply the card now will have one time application fee of RM15.

Previously I read Lowyat Forum discussion on TnG ewallet thread, mentioned that one of them successfully cancel the card before TnG trigger the annual fee. You'll have to contact their customer service to do so, and may take few working days.
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post Sep 26 2024, 12:33 AM

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Hi all. I wanna consult a bit on my Wise acc

Recently, my sibling is planning to study in the UK. She is currently working in SG. We planning to send her GBP from MY every month to support her studies

Was thinking if I can ask her to open a Wise account in MY and then ask her to load MYR inside her Wise acc, get the debit card, convert the MYR to GBP and then let her spend the debit card in the UK

Hoping to hear whether this is feasible
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post Sep 26 2024, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 25 2024, 05:33 PM)
Hi all. I wanna consult a bit on my Wise acc

Recently, my sibling is planning to study in the UK. She is currently working in SG. We planning to send her GBP from MY every month to support her studies

Was thinking if I can ask her to open a Wise account in MY and then ask her to load MYR inside her Wise acc, get the debit card, convert the MYR to GBP and then let her spend the debit card in the UK

Hoping to hear whether this is feasible
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I would think that is feasible. When RM is strong, can convert it to GBP anytime for later use. Only downside is, money in Wise doesn't pay interest.

Another option would be. She can have a joint HSBC Premier account with siblings/parents etc. That will entitle her to have a HSBC UK premier account at no further charges. She can even have a HSBC UK Premier account set up before she landed in UK. And transferring fund between Malaysian HSBC to UK HSBC would be free.

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post Sep 29 2024, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 25 2024, 01:15 PM)
If you intend to convert your MYR to EUR first, and store your EUR balance and use at a later date, then Wise is a considerable option. But MYR has been appreciating lately though... sweat.gif

If you just want to use MYR balance and make payments in Europe (which it'll auto convert to EUR currency) then in my opinion, although it is true Wise refers to mid market exchange rate, but eventually the total amount you pay in a foreign transaction, which will includes their Service fee, may appear slightly higher than VISA/Mastercard 0% bank fee rate.

If you plan to allocate RM10k for foreign spending, you can consider Touch n Go VISA Debit Card (not to be confused with their normal TnG card, or their NFC card).
That one uses VISA and it has 0% bank fee, but it has annual fee of RM8. But it shouldn't be an issue if you intend to spend a lot in foreign currencies, as the savings you get from 0% bank fee can eventually breakeven with the RM8 annual fee.
Also, there's a one time application fee of RM15, annual fee will be waived for the first year.

For GX Bank, it uses Mastercard's 0% bank fee, and there's no annual fee. Since it is relatively a new bank, they had to use the latest 8 digits BIN number standard for its card number.
It is the future card number standards for Mastercard and VISA, and meant to supersede the current standard of 6-digits BIN number that is in use since long long time ago.
But it is believed that some overseas merchants did not or have not update their POS systems to support 8 digits BIN number from Mastercard/VISA cards due to technical and other reasons, which is what you're referring to "may not be accepted everywhere". Therefore as a result from the end user, the transaction would get declined. I believe this issue won't happen if the merchant system is properly updated to support 8 digits BIN number.
This is more towards the merchant's problem, nothing got to do with the country you visit.

Regardless of which one you go for, the rates of using Wise card would often times still better than convert to cash at a money changer shop.

You can compare the rates yourself here:
https://wise.com/my/pricing/card-fees?sourc...R&targetCcy=EUR
https://www.visa.com.my/support/consumer/tr...calculator.html
https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/personal/ge...t-currency.html
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This doesn't factor in the exchange rate, and Mastercard generally provides the best rate most of the time over the other two.
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post Sep 30 2024, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Sep 29 2024, 11:48 PM)
This doesn't factor in the exchange rate, and Mastercard generally provides the best rate most of the time over the other two.
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As a general rule, yes, we may assume that for Mastercard, but not all the time...
Because sometimes, there is a possibility that VISA's rate would appear better than Mastercard in some days.
Here's an example for China's Renminbi (CNY), for 19 Sep 2024:

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It still depends on which transaction currency also.
So yeah, for those who's looking for the best exchange rate out there (after factor in their service fee), Wise would not be the primary choice.

But Wise is indeed useful if you intend to convert to a foreign currency (as if to "lock in" this exchange rate against MYR) and then store the balance for later use.

This post has been edited by joshhd: Sep 30 2024, 12:17 AM
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post Oct 2 2024, 12:55 AM

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Hi, i want to buy from amazon, is Wise a good choice or is there a better service exchange rate? No chance i'll be using bank.

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post Oct 2 2024, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(cheongzewei @ Oct 2 2024, 12:55 AM)
Hi, i want to buy from amazon, is Wise a good choice or is there a better service exchange rate? No chance i'll be using bank.
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SCB jumpstart. Rated better than wise with 5% cashback of what you max at RM50 as long as you deposit RM3k/month.
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post Oct 2 2024, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(cheongzewei @ Oct 2 2024, 12:55 AM)
Hi, i want to buy from amazon, is Wise a good choice or is there a better service exchange rate? No chance i'll be using bank.
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post Oct 2 2024, 11:22 AM

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post Oct 2 2024, 03:51 PM

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Hi, I am going to travel to China. Anyone has use WISE to withdraw Yuan from ATM in China? Is it possible? How much is the charges for ATM fees?
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 2 2024, 03:51 PM)
Hi, I am going to travel to China. Anyone has use WISE to withdraw Yuan from ATM in China? Is it possible? How much is the charges for ATM fees?
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Just link the Wise card in AliPay, hardly need to use cash in China. Not having a need to use cash since years ago...
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post Oct 2 2024, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(andrew98 @ Oct 2 2024, 04:38 PM)
Just link the Wise card in AliPay, hardly need to use cash in China. Not having a need to use cash since years ago...
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I don't hae Alipay. Can open Alipay in Malaysia and link to WISE?

Another question. If i have Yuan inside my WISE, Alipay will know to deduct Yuan instead of RM?

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 2 2024, 04:53 PM)
I don't hae Alipay. Can open Alipay in Malaysia and link to WISE?

Another question. If i have Yuan inside my WISE, Alipay will know to deduct Yuan instead of RM?
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Install alipay app n link lor to wise. Done that
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post Oct 2 2024, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 2 2024, 04:53 PM)
I don't hae Alipay. Can open Alipay in Malaysia and link to WISE?

Another question. If i have Yuan inside my WISE, Alipay will know to deduct Yuan instead of RM?
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I don't hae Alipay. Can open Alipay in Malaysia and link to WISE?
Yes you can. Sign up using Malaysian mobile number > you'll receive OTP > perform eKYC (identity verification) by uploading a photo of your passport and a selfie.

Another question. If i have Yuan inside my WISE, Alipay will know to deduct Yuan instead of RM?
Then it will deduct your CNY currency first. Until your CNY not enough or finishes, then it will deduct the remaining amount from your MYR balance.
If you have other currency balances in your Wise (other than CNY or MYR), then it will auto deduct whichever has lower fee first.

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post Oct 3 2024, 03:59 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 30 2024, 12:14 AM)
As a general rule, yes, we may assume that for Mastercard, but not all the time...
Because sometimes, there is a possibility that VISA's rate would appear better than Mastercard in some days.
Here's an example for China's Renminbi (CNY), for 19 Sep 2024:

user posted image

user posted image

It still depends on which transaction currency also.
So yeah, for those who's looking for the best exchange rate out there (after factor in their service fee), Wise would not be the primary choice.

But Wise is indeed useful if you intend to convert to a foreign currency (as if to "lock in" this exchange rate against MYR) and then store the balance for later use.
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Actually, the currency converters for Visa and Mastercard have different cutoff times due to time zone differences, so you can't directly compare their rates by just selecting the same date.
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post Oct 3 2024, 05:15 AM

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seoul which ATM withdrawal doesn't have any fees?
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post Oct 3 2024, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Steve78 @ Oct 3 2024, 03:59 AM)
Actually, the currency converters for Visa and Mastercard have different cutoff times due to time zone differences, so you can't directly compare their rates by just selecting the same date.
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Yes correct. It is just for reference purposes.
The cutoff times (after converting to Malaysia time) are:

VISA = Next day 6:00am Malaysia time
Mastercard = Next day 2:00am Malaysia time
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post Oct 3 2024, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 2 2024, 11:50 PM)
I don't hae Alipay. Can open Alipay in Malaysia and link to WISE?
Yes you can. Sign up using Malaysian mobile number > you'll receive OTP > perform eKYC (identity verification) by uploading a photo of your passport and a selfie.

Another question. If i have Yuan inside my WISE, Alipay will know to deduct Yuan instead of RM?
Then it will deduct your CNY currency first. Until your CNY not enough or finishes, then it will deduct the remaining amount from your MYR balance.
If you have other currency balances in your Wise (other than CNY or MYR), then it will auto deduct whichever has lower fee first.
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Thank you! Perfect!! Now i don't have to carry so much cash

This post has been edited by CommodoreAmiga: Oct 3 2024, 09:17 AM
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post Oct 3 2024, 09:19 AM

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Anyone has experience with Wise in Argentina?
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post Oct 3 2024, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 3 2024, 09:17 AM)
Thank you! Perfect!! Now i don't have to carry so much cash
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Alipay n Weixin Pay for foreigners is hit n miss due to restrictions on peer to peer transfer. Cash is better in China. Japan can get by with minimal cash.



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