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This post has been edited by Wymm: Jun 20 2020, 10:45 AM

To Malaysia?

what do you think with xperia 10 ii?

-Sorry, double posted-

This post has been edited by smallarcana: May 17 2020, 10:15 AM

For sony fans they will like it....but for me i will go for sam a71

This year me no budget allocate for smartphones

since i have invested with sony premium model before, thinking to try mid version of sony. xperia 1 ii, no news for us and it will be expensive.

based on price tag of RM4299 in last year model Xperia 1.. I think Mark II should be around the same price if they come to Malaysia which i think they will.. Especially with recent announcement on mid range Xperia 10 II.. But it might be in limited quantity through online store or sony retail store..

i think it will deliver quite promising quality of phone in this Xperia 1 II.. However, whether it can capture the consumer taste or not is different things.. The software part basically very close to pure Android with some minor integration of Sony apps itself.. Camera parts - tuned to offer natural colour and balanced photo.. it do not offer the option like huawei to have standard, vivid mode to consumers.. so those who prefer vivid colour photo, sorry it wont exist..

compared my Xperia 1 with other flagships, indeed sony do deliver more balanced/natural/consistent white balance in photo in most scenarios.. the RGBC-IR sensor is the main feature which deliver the natural white balance/colour..

Rm1799 boss if not mistaken

for Xperia 10 II, yes it is reported to retail as RM1799 in local market..

I see

Bro, change the spelling of the thread topic from Experia to Xperia

Done sir

Aiyo, no sir la. We're all equals

ok wait for retail price in malaysia first before making my next move on new hp

Japan price been released and announced.. but it is softbank/docomo variants.. I am looking forward to Sony Xperia Taiwan price which will be closer to Msia price..

NTD 11490 for Xperia 10 II and malaysia is RM1799 (~ NTD 12490).. somehow almost similar with extra 8%.. probably take Sony Taiwan price + GST %..

https://gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_ii_launc...-news-43267.php

If that Japan price is any indication, it'll cost about RM5k when launched here!

oh yess... previously japan launch xperia 1 is about 103000 Yen.. and now xperia 1 II is 123000.. about 20% price increment..

Ya, so expecting a RM4,999 price when it gets here to match the S20 Ultra... Wow...

haha ok wo.. 5G.. actually if the 5G cost that much such as S20+ vs S20 Ultra 5G.. about 1k.. take in the extra feature in S20 Ultra for 300? there is another 700 is for 5G.. i think can deduct it out.. same as 4k vs FHD display.. Sony can excluded the 4k display to reduce some cost.. too bad, Xperia 1 is like Premium flagship ady..

I think it very much depends on the free gifts when it launches. But although I used to own several flagship Sony phones in the past, I kind of skip Sony because of the following:

1. Used to overheat
2. Random reboot
3. Lack of support in Malaysia. Say after 2 years you want to change battery there's no proper support centers for the phone.

Also this current flagship only offers 90hz screen, lower capacity ram and battery. But camera, video recording and screen quality seem better than others. I believe the last flagship came with free wireless earphone worth close to 1k right? If this time round they come with such premium Sony ear piece, maybe worth buying if quality build is good.

What's your thought on what represents a good value to buy for this phone. What sort of freebies you think make this phone a good buy?

first issue no longer exist.. at least in Xperia 1.. Previous variants such as Z5P and following until XZ3.. indeed cause a lot of issues and people skipped them after have bad experience.. im one of it that from z5p and skipped the following next few generation of xperia..

item 2 and 3 yes.. of course there is a third party vendor/technician do know how to repair it, but the price tends to be at higher point.. if we compare the screen replacement between xperia, samsung and iphone.. iphone is the cheapest one..


Yeah last year when i purchase Xperia 1 also due to freebie of WH-1000XM3 which cost about RM1k+.. market online price is around 1.2k that time.. but now started to drop till 1k as XM4 coming soon..
Personally think that extended warranty is kind of attactive freebie, then probably give other sony products to let consumer experience the overall experience that they want to bring to consumers.. such as headset/noise cancelling wire/wireless.. 1 year warranty for a product cost RM5k.. a big nono to me.. even TV also have 2 years warranty or more..

Btw, the Xperia 1 II offer 256gb ROM, 8gb RAM and 4000mAh battery.. actually not consider big differences compare with device in markets.. even samsung s20 series offer 128gb ROM only..

This post has been edited by ChuanHong: May 19 2020, 11:46 AM

Hmm, later versions of Sony phones still got random reboots? That sucks, iphones and huawei from p20 onwards hardly have reboot issues. I am surprise too when you say iphone screen replacement is the cheapest one. I thought iphone should be most expensive.

Most flagships like Oppo, oneplus even samsung has bigger battery and 12GB rams. I certainly don't mind the extended warranty if any. But at least in jb, there's almost no center for official phone repair. If got problem they will take your phone to don't know where to repair. I think they banking on the fact their products hardly breakdown.

Let's see what freebies they give. If useful stuff like premium noise cancelling ear piece plus other good stuff, I might consider going back to Sony since Samsung is a no no for me (bad experience with Note2 and non Snap Dragon) and Huawei now almost as good as dead without GMS. Either Sony or I am jumping to iphone, make that big painful switch. At least iphone guarantees 4 cycles of major software upgrades. Use for 3 years or more.

I thought the Xperia 1 at 4k with the free WM1000XM3 was a good buy, but stayed away due to the battery size. For me, minimum battery size for my Android phones is 4000mAh

Oh, and the Xperia 1 II doesn't come with a 90hz refresh rate

"Sony skipped on a high refresh rate screen and chose to implement Motion Blur Reduction instead. It claims to match the benefits of a 90Hz display by analyzing what's on the screen and adjusting individual frames to reduces frame lag."

so far my Xperia 1 and previous Xperia do not have random reboots issue.. I guess its due to sim card detection issue?! Sony device will reboot after u unplug the sim card or reconnect Sim card..

iPhone screen replacement is the cheapest one.. resolution low, less model, bulk order on screen parts by repair shop.. many ppl willing to repair iphone cause 1 spare part use for few generations.. last time i replaced 1 rm300 for iphone 6 plus.. A+ screen..

12gb RAM is a hype where u dont ever need that.. but yeah consumer always feel bigger/more is better.. it's welcome feature.. I am willing to go for Sony last year due to no notch, no punch hole on display.. last year only few devices do not have those (asus rog 2 (hands-on and it's too big & heavy), xiaomi 9t pro (not fancy to sliding front cam, but recommended to my family members & friends), sony xperia 1/5..).. i used P20 before which i feel a bit distracting to me.. however, it is basically personal preference.. Samsung flagship actually quite attracting except exynos itself.. not much issue in daily performance, but battery life is not good based on my real friends experience (S20+ & S20 Ultra). i do have some screenshots from them.. Camera is too artificial/prefilter looks.. somehow all Youtubers love it so much.. (LOL to me).. The reason i said it is attractive due to samsung pay..

iPhone is a good buy actually.. Just because i am prefer widget in android.. i have spent a lot of apps in iOS actually back to iPhone 4 and 5 generation with iPad.. even Papago i also do purchased.. not sure whether now still valid in Apple Store.. And im used to dual sim in android (but now iPhone support eSIM too).. Probably i will go to iOS in future when they remove notch and add back fingerprint scanner.. face ID is a troll to me..

Im okay to pay for flagship price.. but also will consider on my usage pattern.. minimum 2 years for usage if possible.. made a switch from P20 to Xperia 1 due to front camera of P20 & video stabilisation triggered me the most.. Other than that, P20 rear camera and performance are satisfied.. however, now new huawei device without GMS will not in my option list.. =)

surprisingly 3300mAh battery size doesnt fail me to last 1 whole day with SOT about 6 hours.. sometime even more depend on environment.. but based on mixed usage (under daylight & indoor), adaptive brightness turned auto.. still giving me around 6 hours SOT.. if fully wifi and stay at home for movie, 7hours+ is achievable..

i also have concern before i made purchase.. But i do compared with the size of S10 (3400mAh), S10e (3100mAh), S10+ (4100mAh) as benchmarks, my colleagues all also getting around 5~6 hours SOT (S10+ get even more). By looking at real life comparison + considering Xperia 1 + XM3 headset (RM4299).. phone will be 3k and headset 1.3k.. haha.. buy..

Hahaha, if the Mark II is RM5000 and comes with a free PS5 then maybe can

hahahaha.. dont dream already~~~~ let's wait for Sony Xperia Taiwan offer first.. mostly their offers are good and can use as reference..

Hahaha, yeah, getting a little ahead of myself there

We’ll see...

Ya you are right. Mostly software tuned. Not sure ultimately the screen would be better than iphone or oppo/oneplus premium. Sony is supposed to be better in terms of sound and screen quality. But its mobile phone seems to not live up to its name.

I think my last sony is xperia 3 or something 3. That time I believe was the battery connection issue that's causing the random reboot.

Ya even though previous workplace gave me iphone, I never like it. No dropdown printscreen which I use a lot, no double sim then, hard to transfer files to laptop, quite rigid then in terms of the default apps you can use. I think then browser only can use safari. Though I find it good actually, then was the best in terms of reading on it. But not windows laptop friendly. I have ipad 3 or 4 though. iphone is expensive but at least the quality is there.

You wish! PS5 out even out yet, and Malaysia will be one of the last SEA places to get it. I am more hoping for a premium ear piece plus maybe another gift. A TV like what samsung did will not be too bad! Haha. Most likely a ear bud and a wireless charging pad.

Hahaha, for RM5k the gift has to be really enticing ma, hahaha. So far I think Samsung has the better pre-order gifts, although I don't think the TV can be counted since it's limited to early birds who braved the elements to queue overnight at selected malls

Wew actual people are replying each other

Long live sony

XZ3 or Z3.. if very old one then it is Z3.. Disaster era with SD810.. hot chipset..

btw, Xperia 1 received latest May security update..

I think is Z3, got it around 2014 or 2015.

That's fairly fast for an update. Well done, Sony

It’s looking very likely the phone will be priced at minimum RM5k if and when it finally gets here.

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_ii_g...-news-43325.php

The XM3 is a bit of an outdated free gift already though

thinking of time to upgrade as well, q4 of the year.

mainly looking at note20 or this.
really like x1ii, but.... i cannot give up samsungpay...

better than nothing.. probably they should do more options of free gifts.. like PS4 bundled, headset, or others.. i guess they are clearing stock for XM3.. haha.. all headsets from penang sony site.. last time got ppl curi inside earphone and come out for sale.. back to year 2016 or 2017, i bought 1 noise cancelling wired earphone (Printed not for sale) with RM50.. while RRP selling as rm 2xx..


samsungpay~~ really its a good feature here.. depend la.. my friend s20+ and s20 ultra is nightmare btw.. preorder users.. LOL.. easily hot, camera performance good (but feel not natural).. commented by my friends who purchased.. i accompanied them to purchase during first day sale.. damn~ probably note 20 have to observe unless pre-order gift/roadshow gift are too tempting.. microSD card, wireless chargepad, galaxy bud+.. not bad actually..

recently 1 friend bought note 10 lite also got 1 galaxy bud+.. LOL initially my friend got wireless chargepad but note 10 lite is not supported wireless charging.. go back complain and exchange with bud+.. win win deal..

Yeah even the XM3 advertised worth RM1599 but can be bought at RM900 or so on Shopee or Lazada during sale period We'll just have to wait and see for Malaysia launch.

If you are Celcom user, you may get the headset at 899 from Sony store..

Yeah, my point exactly

Anyways, seems the US launch of the Mark II has a setback..

https://gsmarena.com/b_h_reconsiders_the_pr...-news-43368.php

No 5G support in the US

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_ii_o...-news-43412.php

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This post has been edited by marcyeo: Aug 25 2021, 05:58 PM

I also watch the video this morning. The camera apps is really great.

For RM4999 sure it will be tough for Sony to sell. I doubt Sony Malaysia will lower the price. Even the premium spec Oppo Find X2 Pro also people don't buy. I'll most likely will be buying an import set.

i can spend rm4999 s20 ultra for my channel and usage, but i could never spent even 3k for sony flagship....hmm..

Sell the S20U, buy the X1ii.

nope..i wont...to me is a downgrade hehe

Really la 5k?

Not 1.7k ishh?

You won't get any flagship phone for below RM2k these days

But RM5k for a Sony will be difficult, especially if they remove 5G like they did in the US.

This post has been edited by attw: May 26 2020, 07:25 PM

from what i can gather from unbox therapy.. the minus on this one are:-

1. no 90hz refresh rate
2. 4k screen with 4000mAh battery
3. fingerprint scanner
4. price

Fingerprint sensor integrate with power button. Although slow but me think Sony does not want anything messing up with the display.

This post has been edited by Bugeca: May 27 2020, 06:12 PM

GSMArena has released their review of the Sony Xperia 1 Mark II

https://gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_ii-review-2115.php

I think their review is pretty bias. They just make a simple fast review to write it off their list.

It's probably got to do with the phone not having the final software (hence no numbers on battery endurance) and the fact that it's very expensive.

It is. I don't need 65W charging if it can last me all day. And yes it is pretty expensive. They don't have brand recognition like Samsung. People buy RM4999 Samsung but not the RM4999 Sony.

Yes, agreed. Another point also is the aftersales service. Samsung has more service centres here and better support. Not sure if this applies to Europe though, where this particular review originated from

Another video review. This time focusing more on camera and it's app.

Some sample photo from them as well.

https://www.cnet.com/news/sony-xperia-1-ii-...-eye-autofocus/

by looking at comparison between sony vs samsung and iphone, you can see how unnatural of samsung camera output.. oversaturated for all the times.. iphone more natural but night time colour seem flat out..

overall give me choose, iphone and sony first then only come to samsung..

I never know this thread would come alive

I used sony smartphones 2012-2013

But low end models

Sony still emphasized that software optimization any day as well the awesome camera quality

Was so excited about this phone until I saw the price 😆

I think this has always been the case. Samsung tends to produce more punchier and vivid colours, and some people prefer those. I would choose the more natural ones too.

That's gonna be the case for all flagship phones this year

Looking at comparison between iPhone 11 Pro vs Xperia 1 II and vs Xperia 1.. i feel xperia 1 is more standout lea.. noise suppression before convert to JPEG by sony is really working.. we can see the noise from iPhone 11 Pro while no appear in both Xperia.. (May look at center GSMARENA wording with colouring stick..

https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType...6&idPhone3=9543

The only advantage of Xperia 1 II is bigger sensor which produce brighter images.. other than that, i dont feel big marginal improvements in photo quality comparing with Xperia 1.. (Except AF 20fps)..

And the bigger battery

Hopefully when launching in Malaysia with a better deal

This post has been edited by SteadyPana: Jun 2 2020, 02:40 PM

Haha with this delay, maybe bro attw's wish to come with PS5 free gift might come true. Or maybe the upcoming XM1004 headset! One can only wish.

I do like the phone's feature that allows the phone to run by direct charging without charging the battery. Less heat and protects the battery. Only if Sony allows the game mode to also apply to youtube or other gpu cpu intensive apps. Seems like able to select the apps that can use the game mode. But need actual verifying by those testers. Also not sure if this phone not being able to use the 5G in US will have any impact on Malaysia 5G or not.

Hahaha, don't take my word for it bro. There's every possibility they also bundle the older XM3 headphones like in Europe or US.

But it looks likely to be a RM5000 phone like the S20 Ultra going by US and UK prices

100% agree...

since android era with sony...price is premium...

but no china phone even huawei can challenge software optimization

with current xperia 1 game enhancer, dont see youtube in the list of apps.. i guess those netflix, youtube are not in the list due to game enhancer can do recording.. but yes, that is 1 of good feature..

that price is definitely outrageous. And i read according to a world survey, i think about 80% of the people are only willing to spend about $300$ - 600$ for a high-end phone. anything more is really crazy.

Yeah, but I think all flagship phones are truly well and beyond the $600 price point already. When Oppo has the audacity to charge $1200 for their Find X2 Pro, what more Sony who is already known to have overpriced phones

okay i'm so excited. this gonna be my first sony xperia phone after the disappointed z5 premium!

btw just wonder if the 4K resolution runs at all time, or just when we open 4k content?

If it's the same as Xperia 1, we cannot choose when it will kick in. The system will decide for us.
I think only movie, youtube, and photo.

And much better speakers. Finally can go toe-to-toe with real flagships.

Means most of the time it runs at full HD?

Except it's missing the high refresh rate screen that other flagships are packing. I'm willing to forego that but at the price they intend to charge, they should have added it in

Yeah, most reviews mentioned that too, apparently even Netflix and Amazon Prime that supports 4K runs on FHD on the Xperia 1 II

Agree.

4k will only run based on apps developer provided that high resolution.. So far, Sony in apps album/videos app supported it.. Youtube also supported it.. Netflix seem support in the past however recently limit the resolution based on global lockdown. And netflix seem limited to certain device (streaming devices) for now..

so in the end, if apps support, 4K will kick in.. else downscale to 1080p.. even so, the display panel is still 4k.. basically u cant see the pixels even very close to display..

Below is explanation from Sony about 4k display. Dont be too excited for 4K display btw.. But it confirm is one of good display panel that showing nice colour
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/articles/SX906801

This post has been edited by ChuanHong: Jun 3 2020, 04:39 PM


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Nice detailed explanation there. Seriously for a screen so small, FHD works well enough for me

Ouch. Means same like xperia z5 premium.

I'm used to QHD+ resolution, will i feel downgrade with this Xperia 1 ii default FHD+ ?

Thanks!

Hong Kong Press Release

https://youtu.be/bZW8-DMZ_r4

HK$7999

This post has been edited by SteadyPana: Jun 4 2020, 11:37 AM

xperia 1 ii tempting .. any news on xperia 5 ii ?

Next will be Mark Pro.

Nope

This post has been edited by SteadyPana: Jun 4 2020, 11:39 AM

The one that got overheat issues is Z3+ (SD810)

Z3 used SD801. Notorious problems are waterproof issues & pinkish color appears on center during camera shoots, I used Z3 back in 2015 then kaput due to water damage on motherboard, Sony Centre quoted RM1,800 to replace the board, I bought another Z3 (2nd) from Mudah 6 month later. also got waterproof issues and kaput too....Z3 stereo speakers were great but not too loud compared with HTC with boomsound & good stabilisations for video recording without OIS

u wont disappointed as the display panel still is 4k.. and it do have technology upscale of full HD video to 4K quality.. basically u wont see any pixel like Full HD display..

i hope xperia 1 II will be available as display set at sony center such as the coming xperia 10 II.

seems xperia 1 to tall for me .. compare to xperia 5 ... waiting for similiar size xperia 5 with 5G if can ...

I'm sure it will be but just a question of when

Just saw this phone being marketed on YouTube, after looking at the price, poco f2 pro now looks more and more attractive. Haih

that less than RM4500 isnt?

*unlike europe and US, it doesnt bundled with wh-1000mx3. that makes it more expensive per phone.

This post has been edited by pcboss00: Jun 4 2020, 03:04 PM

I think so....