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post May 19 2020, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 19 2020, 09:50 AM)
haha ok wo.. 5G.. actually if the 5G cost that much such as S20+ vs S20 Ultra 5G.. about 1k.. take in the extra feature in S20 Ultra for 300? there is another 700 is for 5G.. i think can deduct it out.. same as 4k vs FHD display.. Sony can excluded the 4k display to reduce some cost.. too bad, Xperia 1 is like Premium flagship ady..
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I think it very much depends on the free gifts when it launches. But although I used to own several flagship Sony phones in the past, I kind of skip Sony because of the following:

1. Used to overheat
2. Random reboot
3. Lack of support in Malaysia. Say after 2 years you want to change battery there's no proper support centers for the phone.

Also this current flagship only offers 90hz screen, lower capacity ram and battery. But camera, video recording and screen quality seem better than others. I believe the last flagship came with free wireless earphone worth close to 1k right? If this time round they come with such premium Sony ear piece, maybe worth buying if quality build is good.

What's your thought on what represents a good value to buy for this phone. What sort of freebies you think make this phone a good buy?
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post May 19 2020, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 19 2020, 11:39 AM)
first issue no longer exist.. at least in Xperia 1.. Previous variants such as Z5P and following until XZ3.. indeed cause a lot of issues and people skipped them after have bad experience.. im one of it that from z5p and skipped the following next few generation of xperia..

item 2 and 3 yes.. of course there is a third party vendor/technician do know how to repair it, but the price tends to be at higher point.. if we compare the screen replacement between xperia, samsung and iphone.. iphone is the cheapest one..
Yeah last year when i purchase Xperia 1 also due to freebie of WH-1000XM3 which cost about RM1k+.. market online price is around 1.2k that time.. but now started to drop till 1k as XM4 coming soon..
Personally think that extended warranty is kind of attactive freebie, then probably give other sony products to let consumer experience the overall experience that they want to bring to consumers.. such as headset/noise cancelling wire/wireless.. 1 year warranty for a product cost RM5k.. a big nono to me.. even TV also have 2 years warranty or more..

Btw, the Xperia 1 II offer 256gb ROM, 8gb RAM and 4000mAh battery.. actually not consider big differences compare with device in markets.. even samsung s20 series offer 128gb ROM only..
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Hmm, later versions of Sony phones still got random reboots? That sucks, iphones and huawei from p20 onwards hardly have reboot issues. I am surprise too when you say iphone screen replacement is the cheapest one. I thought iphone should be most expensive.

Most flagships like Oppo, oneplus even samsung has bigger battery and 12GB rams. I certainly don't mind the extended warranty if any. But at least in jb, there's almost no center for official phone repair. If got problem they will take your phone to don't know where to repair. I think they banking on the fact their products hardly breakdown.

Let's see what freebies they give. If useful stuff like premium noise cancelling ear piece plus other good stuff, I might consider going back to Sony since Samsung is a no no for me (bad experience with Note2 and non Snap Dragon) and Huawei now almost as good as dead without GMS. Either Sony or I am jumping to iphone, make that big painful switch. At least iphone guarantees 4 cycles of major software upgrades. Use for 3 years or more.


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post May 19 2020, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ May 19 2020, 12:50 PM)
I thought the Xperia 1 at 4k with the free WM1000XM3 was a good buy, but stayed away due to the battery size. For me, minimum battery size for my Android phones is 4000mAh smile.gif

Oh, and the Xperia 1 II doesn't come with a 90hz refresh rate

"Sony skipped on a high refresh rate screen and chose to implement Motion Blur Reduction instead. It claims to match the benefits of a 90Hz display by analyzing what's on the screen and adjusting individual frames to reduces frame lag."
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Ya you are right. Mostly software tuned. Not sure ultimately the screen would be better than iphone or oppo/oneplus premium. Sony is supposed to be better in terms of sound and screen quality. But its mobile phone seems to not live up to its name.

QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 19 2020, 01:24 PM)
so far my Xperia 1 and previous Xperia do not have random reboots issue.. I guess its due to sim card detection issue?! Sony device will reboot after u unplug the sim card or reconnect Sim card..


iPhone is a good buy actually.. Just because i am prefer widget in android.. i have spent a lot of apps in iOS actually back to iPhone 4 and 5 generation with iPad.. even Papago i also do purchased.. not sure whether now still valid in Apple Store.. And im used to dual sim in android (but now iPhone support eSIM too).. Probably i will go to iOS in future when they remove notch and add back fingerprint scanner.. face ID is a troll to me..
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I think my last sony is xperia 3 or something 3. That time I believe was the battery connection issue that's causing the random reboot.

Ya even though previous workplace gave me iphone, I never like it. No dropdown printscreen which I use a lot, no double sim then, hard to transfer files to laptop, quite rigid then in terms of the default apps you can use. I think then browser only can use safari. Though I find it good actually, then was the best in terms of reading on it. But not windows laptop friendly. I have ipad 3 or 4 though. iphone is expensive but at least the quality is there.

QUOTE(attw @ May 19 2020, 01:39 PM)
Hahaha, if the Mark II is RM5000 and comes with a free PS5 then maybe can laugh.gif
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You wish! PS5 out even out yet, and Malaysia will be one of the last SEA places to get it. I am more hoping for a premium ear piece plus maybe another gift. A TV like what samsung did will not be too bad! Haha. Most likely a ear bud and a wireless charging pad.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ May 19 2020, 04:29 PM)
XZ3 or Z3.. if very old one then it is Z3.. Disaster era with SD810.. hot chipset..

btw, Xperia 1 received latest May security update..
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I think is Z3, got it around 2014 or 2015.
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post Jun 2 2020, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Jun 2 2020, 02:39 PM)
Hopefully when launching in Malaysia with a better deal  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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Haha with this delay, maybe bro attw's wish to come with PS5 free gift might come true. Or maybe the upcoming XM1004 headset! One can only wish.

I do like the phone's feature that allows the phone to run by direct charging without charging the battery. Less heat and protects the battery. Only if Sony allows the game mode to also apply to youtube or other gpu cpu intensive apps. Seems like able to select the apps that can use the game mode. But need actual verifying by those testers. Also not sure if this phone not being able to use the 5G in US will have any impact on Malaysia 5G or not.
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post Jul 6 2020, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Jul 6 2020, 09:08 PM)
I asked Sony staff in LYP yesterday. Xperia 1 ii will be available in MY maybe in November 2020. doh.gif
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By November this phone technology would be considered obsolete. Fight against 2nd wave premium android phone and iPhone 12.
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post Aug 8 2020, 08:39 PM

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When is Sony releasing their 2020 flagship phone.... so many months already. I am not greedy, just release in Aug with the newly XM1004 headset as free gift and I will buy even if over 5k.

Seriously forcing people to go apple. Now with the US China situation China phones got risk for future support and updates, and samsung using non snapdragon chips here. Only left Sony in Malaysia.

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post Aug 28 2020, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Aug 28 2020, 12:12 PM)
https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/08/28/sony-...-soon-official/

If it comes at 4500 and bundled with XM4 it’ll be a great buy! laugh.gif
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Better throw in a ps5 too. Damn fed up, Nov already got 865plus phone plus iPhone 12.

Anyway I think I will make the painful switch to iPhone. China phones in danger of software update and Samsung no Qualcomm in Malaysia. Seriously disappointed, not sure why Sony delays until Nov. Might as well don't release.
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post Sep 2 2020, 10:55 AM

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Sony just sent me survey email on this phone... Saying releasing soon, maybe earlier than Nov.
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post Oct 17 2020, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Landmarkyap @ Oct 17 2020, 10:00 AM)
Free wireless headset will do

Check this out

https://youtu.be/HTOZso28UY0
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Now that iphone 12 Pro Max is out (camera blows sony away) and the fact around Feb 2021 Sony will announce xperia 1 mark 3, Sony better bundle with XM4 and PS5. Seriously I think Sony give up on the Malaysia market and for the right reason too. Just simply no demand and Malaysia flooded with mid level China phones. Even 5G support is unclear, with many Malaysia users "expecting" Sony to "turn on" the 5G features once available in Malaysia. I don't know if it works this way since got licensing issue and whether the 5G modem even included in the first place.

Support is actually very important. Eg I now own a Huawei P20 pro. Relatively stable and just changed the battery at the Huawei Support store where service/costs above good expectation. I feel sad Sony is giving up on the Malaysia market.


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