http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/178...sion_130907.pdf
now i feel mad at coughlan, De la rosa and alonso
Official LYN FIA Formula One World Championship V3, Kimi Raikkonen - 2007 World Champion.
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Sep 14 2007, 10:50 PM
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Read the full verdict here :
http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/178...sion_130907.pdf now i feel mad at coughlan, De la rosa and alonso |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:05 PM
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i really amused by the amateurish espionage that was taking place. photocopying dossiers at shop, sending unencrypted emails and text messages, bunch of bloody noobs. alonso living up to his name as F1 resident bad boy
if ferrari was spying on other teams, at least they'll be competent enough to cover their tracks This post has been edited by acougan: Sep 14 2007, 11:06 PM |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:06 PM
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haha no wonder alonso keep saying WDC is his 1st priority. On the other hand, he is destroying McLaren future.
So confirm nx yr Alonso will transfer to other team or maybe jobless... bcoz he betray McLaren. Added on September 14, 2007, 11:13 pm QUOTE fine of USD100 million (less any sum that would have been payable by Formula One Management Limited on account of McLaren's results in the 2007 Constructors Championship had it not been excluded) so tats means 100 million is including all the prize, TV fees etc. This post has been edited by cristiano7mu: Sep 14 2007, 11:13 PM |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:15 PM
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they should use the USD100 million to subsidize/reduce the prize of F1 tickets like what michelin did to Indy GP 06
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Sep 14 2007, 11:16 PM
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y they take away the Constructor's point only.. >.<
shud take driver's 1 as well.. at least minus them 10points |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:19 PM
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lol the document sure is interesting about all the evidence...
more would be on pedro and alonso betraying the team... |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:28 PM
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many years back in a monaco GP, RD were furious at pedro. back then pedro was driving an Arrows (i believe) and DC somehow got send to the back of the grid and was unable to get past pedro on the tight circuit.
anyway Ron, payback's a b****. This is karma for mismanaging both Montoya & Alonso i think once RD settled as much as possible, he will retire and take off some of the heat from the team. still got many years to enjoy a meaningful retirement. all the best~ |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:37 PM
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well, the truth is out..
im still bewildered how Mclaren can say they are innocent... lol.. |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:37 PM
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well i dun think he can put up any longer...
unless he trade alonso for some1 less demanding and competitive... |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:42 PM
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100 million fine.
That is sure gonna effect McLaren preparation next year. We'll just have to see anyway. QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 14 2007, 11:19 PM) lol the document sure is interesting about all the evidence... LOL.more would be on pedro and alonso betraying the team... Sweet. Surely a doubt on their seat next season. QUOTE(james2306 @ Sep 14 2007, 11:37 PM) Hehehe...typical.I wonder what will happen if they confess. What would the punishment be? This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 14 2007, 11:55 PM |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:48 PM
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yup...
i think without them revealing mcclaren wouldnt be in such deep shi!t now... i doubt hamilton's innocence though... |
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Sep 14 2007, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Sep 14 2007, 08:58 PM) yup.... and one more thing is... Hahahaha...FIA should punish Ferrari as well coz their employee gave coughlan the data. If not, nx time other team will try to pay a employee to send data to rival team n they get punish. It will juz encourage ppl to do it. during the 1st hearing last month, McLaren didnt get any punishment, then some said its not fair imagine a student tiru during exam, get caught but escape from punishment, it is ridiculous. hm...in every school i guess the provider( the 1 who let other tiru) will also get punish as well rite? True also hor, but then again, the point was did McLaren make use of any of Ferrari data which they claimed they didnt.. And also hor, Stephney approach Honda too, but Honda didnt give a damn about it, why? Cos when someone aimed to gain fame and victories by any mean, they dont give a damn shit about rules.. Nothing to lose.. Just like when MSC tried to bang JV out lastime.. Its all or nothing.. |
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Sep 15 2007, 12:05 AM
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Alonso implicated in FIA`s verdict
Link ~ http://www.planetf1.com Alonso likely to leave McLaren According to newspaper report Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Thanks for everything Alonso...I mean everyyythinggg This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 15 2007, 12:07 AM |
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Sep 15 2007, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Sep 15 2007, 12:05 AM) Alonso implicated in FIA`s verdict Kovaleinen or however his name is spelled can become test driver back. And Alonso gonna boh song Fishichella kaw kaw for blocking him so many times this seasonLink ~ http://www.planetf1.com Alonso likely to leave McLaren According to newspaper report Link ~ http://www.f1-live.com Thanks for everything Alonso...I mean everyyythinggg |
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Sep 15 2007, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Sep 14 2007, 11:58 PM) Hahahaha... Honda WAS interested, but they cut ties with Coughlan and Stepneu the moment stepney and the white powder case arises. True also hor, but then again, the point was did McLaren make use of any of Ferrari data which they claimed they didnt.. And also hor, Stephney approach Honda too, but Honda didnt give a damn about it, why? Cos when someone aimed to gain fame and victories by any mean, they dont give a damn shit about rules.. Nothing to lose.. Just like when MSC tried to bang JV out lastime.. Its all or nothing.. And I still found it weird that Stepney will do all this without gaining something in return. He is the root in all this, and yet, he seemed to be irrelevant. QUOTE Following the espionage scandal verdict, Fernando Alonso is almost certain to leave the McLaren team to join Renault next year, according to a newspaper. Not according to the team. and I do think macca will appeal. |
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Sep 15 2007, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Sep 14 2007, 10:50 PM) Read the full verdict here : i really wondering why FIA dun wan to penalize the mclaren drivers.besides,feel pity to kimi as he fighting so hard to win the race for ferrari. but his opponent team won the race which might using their own(ferrari) data/setup. do feel shame tat mclaren had such betrayer.http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/178...sion_130907.pdf now i feel mad at coughlan, De la rosa and alonso anyhow,do respect kimi |
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Sep 15 2007, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 15 2007, 12:31 AM) Honda WAS interested, but they cut ties with Coughlan and Stepneu the moment stepney and the white powder case arises. well guess that saves honda or not they would have to pay 100M as well...And I still found it weird that Stepney will do all this without gaining something in return. He is the root in all this, and yet, he seemed to be irrelevant. Not according to the team. and I do think macca will appeal. |
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Sep 15 2007, 01:05 AM
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Blantant cheating was 5M GBP and 2 race ban only remember? they did it at the San Marino GP in 2005.
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Sep 15 2007, 02:02 AM
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i would suggest most of you read the statement released by the FIA and fully understand it. i know alot of you are fans thus your comments are biased. however, please do give reasons for your claims and not act so childish and call people cheats.
if you read it, McLaren does have some basis on which they can appeal. of course, they will still be punishments as the punishments cant be imposed on the drivers (pedro and alonso) whom knowingly took illegal information. Also, statements of WMSC are clear as there is still has no concrete proof that other McLaren personnels and the team as a whole made use of the information. they only said it is unlikely a test driver could make decisions that information was not important/applicable in McLarens case. In my personal opinion, I think the result of the case wasnt properly handled due to the involvement of 2 major teams and the pressure the media puts on them |
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Sep 15 2007, 02:57 AM
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