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patnam
post Apr 19 2020, 09:00 PM

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at least we both say kachat to everyone...
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post Apr 19 2020, 09:00 PM

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all salahan bahsa

cause our language got la behind

Owai
kitzai
post Apr 19 2020, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 12:55 AM)
I know HK follow Chinese script. Well... obviously. Their Cantonese words have direct a counterpart in Mandarin, like 你, is 'ni' in Mandarin and 'nei' in Cantonese. But our Cantonese, we say lei. Why are we so different?

Another example:


Mandarin: De
HK: Dik
Local: Gei


Mandarin: Dui
HK: Deoi
Local: Ngam
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Only KL speak weird Canto.

Sabah and Ipoh is quite similar with Hongkie.

U know what's the difference between "doh che" and "em koi"?

KL people dont even say doh che, lolz

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post Apr 19 2020, 09:05 PM

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Canto swear words the best of the best. Can insert any swear swords in any conversations. Amazing.


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post Apr 19 2020, 09:14 PM

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Our Cantonese slang not same with Hong Kie

Like US and British English slang also not same
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post Apr 19 2020, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(kitzai @ Apr 19 2020, 09:01 PM)
Only KL speak weird Canto.

Sabah and Ipoh is quite similar with Hongkie.

U know what's the difference between "doh che" and "em koi"?

KL people dont even say doh che, lolz
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Which is the correct one?
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post Apr 19 2020, 09:57 PM

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FYI Cantonese spoken in HK is also different from Guangzhou even though they are just a few hours apart by road.
Likewise, Foshan Cantonese is a bit different from GZ.

In M'sia, Ipoh Cantonese is also diff from the rest of the country.

Same like English spoken in London, Liverpool, Scotland, Wales etc are all different. It's called an "accent".
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QUOTE(peet @ Apr 19 2020, 09:57 PM)
FYI Cantonese spoken in HK is also different from Guangzhou even though they are just a few hours apart by road.
Likewise, Foshan Cantonese is a bit different from GZ.

In M'sia, Ipoh Cantonese is also diff from the rest of the country.

Same like English spoken in London, Liverpool, Scotland, Wales etc are all different. It's called an "accent".
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How is Ipoh canto different? When I hear Ipohan speak I can't really tell any difference
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:05 PM

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ah beng TS does not know what is 懒音 lazy tone LOL



This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2020, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Meis @ Apr 19 2020, 10:05 PM)
ah beng TS does not know what is 懒音 LOL
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What is that?
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:07 PM

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our cantonese has mixed with malay words dy lar..
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 10:02 PM)
How is Ipoh canto different? When I hear Ipohan speak I can't really tell any difference
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I believe certain word such as iced drink is called differently.

Kopi suit vs kopi bing
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Apr 19 2020, 10:10 PM)
I believe certain word such as iced drink is called differently.

Kopi suit vs kopi bing
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I always say kopi suet. Is this KL? I m from KL.
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 10:13 PM)
I always say kopi suet. Is this KL? I m from KL.
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Both are acceptable and understandable. Dun worry.
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:17 PM

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kesian TS, must have not been or expose to HK's cantonese. sive example also give a wrong one.
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 12:55 AM)
I know HK follow Chinese script. Well... obviously. Their Cantonese words have direct a counterpart in Mandarin, like 你, is 'ni' in Mandarin and 'nei' in Cantonese. But our Cantonese, we say lei. Why are we so different?

Another example:


Mandarin: De
HK: Dik
Local: Gei


Mandarin: Dui
HK: Deoi
Local: Ngam

/K answers as simplied below:

1. Influenced by other dialects

2. The words we use are slangs, which HK also use. But we don't know the formal words, which HK knows and use

3. These are 'Lazy' pronunciation, as the language evolved.

4. KL more different from Hongkie. But Ipoh/Sabah closer to HK

5. Diu Lei Lo Mou
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theres a literal sea between us?
if the malay can sound so different comparing johor and kelatan knowing there's just a mountain between them, what more a sea
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:21 PM

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I'm from Ipoh

The only main difference is cent. We use chean. Kl uses kok.

Eg 10c. Yat chean. Yat kok.
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:23 PM

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Aiya Long time ago people do share HK joke about banana

In Malaysia Cantonese we call gong jiu male banana since is really look like male dik

When you ask how much gong jiu in HK
His reply seller will say
After so many years selling banana I also don't know the banana female or male

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post Apr 19 2020, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Apr 19 2020, 10:23 PM)
Aiya Long time ago people do share HK joke about banana

In Malaysia Cantonese we call gong jiu male banana since is really look like male dik

When you ask how much gong jiu in HK
His reply seller will say
After so many years selling banana I also don't know the banana female or male
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Lol i never realise this. We are really crude peopple
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post Apr 19 2020, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Zeliard @ Apr 19 2020, 10:21 PM)
I'm from Ipoh

The only main difference is cent. We use chean. Kl uses kok.

Eg 10c. Yat chean. Yat kok.
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"kok" could be derived from Hakka or Hokkien. Hakka or Hokkien words have slipped into Cantonese in Malaysia is nothing new.

Again, both are understandable for me. You ain't no gonna use "kok" in HK.

This post has been edited by Meis: Mar 5 2023, 03:03 AM

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