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 Why is our Cantonese so different to HK&Guangdong

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differ
post Apr 19 2020, 01:15 AM

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post Apr 19 2020, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Apr 19 2020, 12:58 AM)
They also say like us la.

They also say Ngam...
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Actually HK say am

HK Cantonese more lazy
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post Apr 19 2020, 01:24 AM

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which part of DLLM you dont understand?

so far the 1 pronounce as 'Nei' is Leon Lai only... and he originated from Beijing
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post Apr 19 2020, 01:25 AM

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Because Cantonese never abandoned the ancient tones, causing the language to be much more complex.

This reminds me of this video. Turn on captions for English:




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post Apr 19 2020, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(Immunityx7 @ Apr 19 2020, 01:04 AM)
Lot ppl saying my canto is very hongkie lulz
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u watch tvb too much cool2.gif
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post Apr 19 2020, 02:35 AM

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our local is mix rojak....

hk is pure cantonese...
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post Apr 19 2020, 02:38 AM

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post Apr 19 2020, 02:46 AM

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Hk will recognize our slang cuz a lot of Malaysian tourist go there.
Then again hk n Guangzhou Cantonese in some areas also different slang, guangxi Cantonese mix with their own local words n u can understand a bit
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post Apr 19 2020, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 19 2020, 12:55 AM)
I know HK follow Chinese script. Well... obviously. Their Cantonese words have direct a counterpart in Mandarin, like 你, is 'ni' in Mandarin and 'nei' in Cantonese. But our Cantonese, we say lei. Why are we so different?

Another example:


Mandarin: De
HK: Dik
Local: Gei


Mandarin: Dui
HK: Deoi
Local: Ngam
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It's due to a thing call lazy a.k.a. 懒音
U may find in YouTube for explanation
To make it simple, its like simplified chinese, easier to pronounce

Lot's of hker also doing this especially when they day 我
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post Apr 19 2020, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(Immunityx7 @ Apr 19 2020, 01:04 AM)
Lot ppl saying my canto is very hongkie lulz
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Same here

Local hongkie thought i am local haha
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post Apr 19 2020, 04:22 AM

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This hongkie or guangzhou brows.gif

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notadupe999
post Apr 19 2020, 05:27 AM

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A lot of words used these days there has the "lazy" pronunciations, though. They stopped using the "ng" sound in front.

Like "ngam" becomes "am" and so on. Although this is catching on here as well due to TV influence. We used to do it correctly.

Can think of it as how scholars are studying Korean and Japanese to learn how ancient Chinese pronounce their words. When it was borrowed over, the pronunciations stuck but Chinese kept evolving. Same like the Cantonese here. Some of it has been stuck from 1800s but Cantonese has continued evolving in China and Hong Kong, but TV shows has been synchronising us, though.


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post Apr 19 2020, 05:40 AM

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Since I have roots from HK and visit 2 to 3 times a year (before fcuking COVID19 stopped all that), my nephews and nieces ensure my Cantonese is up to the mark - kids are brutal... no give face. Wrong word, wrong pronunciation, they’ll rip you apart hahaha.
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Congratulations for opening a PN troll free thread. For once I don’t have to read stupid comments from those sohais
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QUOTE(6996 @ Apr 19 2020, 12:57 AM)
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post Apr 19 2020, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(guest54321 @ Apr 19 2020, 01:04 AM)
You are wrong. Nei / lei is used widely in HK depending on context.


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Hak hap (blackbox) lar 67. DIU LEI LOU MOU.

this can be use in HK and malaysia.
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post Apr 19 2020, 07:17 AM

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When I was kid I heard hk drama said Lei, now they said Nei. Expert said Nei is correct one .
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post Apr 19 2020, 07:23 AM

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canto in KL influenced by hakka
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post Apr 19 2020, 08:46 PM

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malaysian chinese migrated from mainland not from HK
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